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[Chris@Hypertech]

Never the less i cleared the code and went on with the installation but it keeps telling me there is an update. I have the latest firmware update on it according to the tuner update application. Looks like i will be making a call to hypertech tomorrow.

You may have a calibration in your ECU that we don't support yet. Try updating the programmer again, and it should tell you.

There is a sequence of steps that happens with the Mazdaspeed3 and 6 when you program your vehicle for the first time. Even if you update the programmer to the latest revision before programming, you will still need to update it. The programmer is shipped with a "default" platform. That platform will vary based on the production date of the programmer. Most of the time, you will need to update first, and select the platform that corresponds to your car.

When connecting the programmer to your car for the first time, you will get a message after connecting the programmer that it needs to be updated. The programmer reads out the stock calibration info. We aren't able to copy the stock calibration files from your ECU, so in order to be able to flash your car back to stock, the programmer has to be updated to download the stock tuning files AND the Hypertech tune for your calibration. Once you update the programmer, then you can go back and program your car. If you have a calibration in your ECU that is not supported, then the tuner update software will upload the calibration info to us, and ask you for your email address. Once we have a tune for your calibration, then you will get an email letting you know that an update is available.

Chris

 

[uthemang31]

Never the less i cleared the code and went on with the installation but it keeps telling me there is an update. I have the latest firmware update on it according to the tuner update application. Looks like i will be making a call to hypertech tomorrow.

I had the same thing happen to me, and technical service told me my tuner was broken.

You may have a calibration in your ECU that we don't support yet. Try updating the programmer again, and it should tell you.

There is a sequence of steps that happens with the Mazdaspeed3 and 6 when you program your vehicle for the first time. Even if you update the programmer to the latest revision before programming, you will still need to update it. The programmer is shipped with a "default" platform. That platform will vary based on the production date of the programmer. Most of the time, you will need to update first, and select the platform that corresponds to your car.

When connecting the programmer to your car for the first time, you will get a message after connecting the programmer that it needs to be updated. The programmer reads out the stock calibration info. We aren't able to copy the stock calibration files from your ECU, so in order to be able to flash your car back to stock, the programmer has to be updated to download the stock tuning files AND the Hypertech tune for your calibration. Once you update the programmer, then you can go back and program your car. If you have a calibration in your ECU that is not supported, then the tuner update software will upload the calibration info to us, and ask you for your email address. Once we have a tune for your calibration, then you will get an email letting you know that an update is available.

Chris

Chris, what can you do if the tuner can or will not calibrate the ECU?

 

[b e z]

I just got off the phone with tech support and he took down my info. He said they have a guy in cali with my exact issue and if what they did solves his problem they will be calling me with the same fix.

 

[b e z]

Should have added that it has something to do with the update not taking affect to the actual tuner.

 

[Chris@Hypertech]

I had the same thing happen to me, and technical service told me my tuner was broken.



Chris, what can you do if the tuner can or will not calibrate the ECU?

If you are having an issue with your programmer updating, contact our tech dept with your serial number. We'll look into it and see what is going on. If there is an issue with your programmer, most of the time we can fix it remotely via the Tuner Update Software. We haven't had any issues of our programmer not being able to work on an ECU for the vehicles we support. Typically an issue like yours is caused by some human error in the programming code that is easily fixed.

Chris

 

[CodyReagan]

Hey can you program this to more than one vehicle at a time? or is it only married to that vehicle? The reason why I ask is because me and a buddy of mine plan on getting one and were going to split the cost of one and he was going to program it to his ms3 and to my ms6.

 

[chief_wiggum]

nope; one at a time.

 

[CodyReagan]

Damn well didnt hurt to ask thanks man for the info

 

[Chris@Hypertech]

nope; one at a time.

Correct!

 

[74te27]

I have HT with Cobb sri for almost a year now and I love it.

Now my car is almost out of warranty, I planning to add catted DP and TMIC . anyone running the same mods with stock FP? with their 1st generation MS3.

Thanks

 

[oaklandopen]

Youll be fine

 

[boosted1]

I have HT with Cobb sri for almost a year now and I love it.

Now my car is almost out of warranty, I planning to add catted DP and TMIC . anyone running the same mods with stock FP? with their 1st generation MS3.

Thanks

I have a catted racepipe and a cp-e TMIC, which is doing fine. My warranty was up last week.(sad1)

 

[74te27]

I have a catted racepipe and a cp-e TMIC, which is doing fine. My warranty was up last week.(sad1)

I still have about 400 mile left on my warranty and the dealer just did 60K service . They replaced my 4th gear and syncros due to 4th gear was grinding.
Thank God it was under warranty. boosted1 and oaklandopen Thanks for the info.

 

[MSMS3]

Even works well with a catless TurboXS downipipe and racepipe. See mods below. In fact, one of my issues on stock tune was boost spikes to 21-22 psi when first coming up on boost. The HT tune smoothed out those spikes and gives me a solid 18-19 psi target boost with gradual taper to 16-17 at 6,000 rpm.

 

[meicalnissyen]

Even works well with a catless TurboXS downipipe and racepipe. See mods below. In fact, one of my issues on stock tune was boost spikes to 21-22 psi when first coming up on boost. The HT tune smoothed out those spikes and gives me a solid 18-19 psi target boost with gradual taper to 16-17 at 6,000 rpm.

Sorry for slight off topic, but ive been pondering the ramifications of a catted DP
Many people, partticularly on the other forum, claim that a fuel pump upgrade is a requirement. Others reccomend monitoring with DH with 1600 being a magic #. Some say stock is fine until you open up the exhaust. Some have failed while stockish.

Would you attribute this variety of experiences to machining/assembly tolerences in the stock pump?

 

[boosted1]

Sorry for slight off topic, but ive been pondering the ramifications of a catted DP
Many people, partticularly on the other forum, claim that a fuel pump upgrade is a requirement. Others reccomend monitoring with DH with 1600 being a magic #. Some say stock is fine until you open up the exhaust. Some have failed while stockish.

Would you attribute this variety of experiences to machining/assembly tolerences in the stock pump?

I believe MSMS3 is on the stock FP. I'm sure he will chime in later.

 

[Chris@Hypertech]

Sorry for slight off topic, but ive been pondering the ramifications of a catted DP
Many people, partticularly on the other forum, claim that a fuel pump upgrade is a requirement. Others reccomend monitoring with DH with 1600 being a magic #. Some say stock is fine until you open up the exhaust. Some have failed while stockish.

Would you attribute this variety of experiences to machining/assembly tolerences in the stock pump?

I can't speak for all of the tunes out there, but we haven't seen any issues with the Gen 1 cars with the Hypertech tune and the stock pump, with any of the bolt-on mods mentioned. We didn't have any issues with our test car with those mods, nor did any of our beta testers who replaced the full exhaust system and removed the cats.

With the Gen 2 cars, we had issues with the fuel pump with a combination of our tuning, intake, and catless exhaust. The pump was fine with the intake, cat-back, and stock cat pipes in place. With a fuel pump upgrade kit installed, the car ran great with all the mods. We did have some Gen 2 beta testers that reported no problems with the stock pump with catless exhaust, intake, aftermarket intercooler, etc., and our tune.

I suspect that there are some manufacturing variances in the pumps that can cause issues. Like any mechanical part, if you're pushing it to the limit, you tend to find the weak links.

Chris

 

[MSMS3]

Yeah, I'm on stock pump and have a minimum of 1700 psi. Car has amazing performance in the higher gears where most pump deficiencies show up, if you're going to have the problem. Maybe I'm just lucky. A lot of gen 1 cars do fine on stock pump. But some guys have had their pump take a dump, so monitoring in some fashion, at least real time under load if not datalogging. At least one trusted member here has had his pump give up the ghost on gen 1 with opened up exhaust.

 

[Kain]

Reporting in.

 

[74te27]

Even works well with a catless TurboXS downipipe and racepipe. See mods below. In fact, one of my issues on stock tune was boost spikes to 21-22 psi when first coming up on boost. The HT tune smoothed out those spikes and gives me a solid 18-19 psi target boost with gradual taper to 16-17 at 6,000 rpm.

Thanks for your input...greatly appreciated! I'm planning to get Corsports Tmic and Cnt downpipe ( catted) and of course Hypertech tune.

back to FP I read other post that some stock fp pressure drop when weather is very cold. any input?