How long are you planning on keeping your Speed3?

[shockdoctor]

Mines already gone. I bought a 91 Integra for 75. No car payments anymore. Cheap insurance too. I don't care if this one gets dented. I miss driving the speed though.

 

[vitomandalay]

Just got mine so I don't think for a long time. Unless I hit the lotto! lol

 

[ericrapp]

what

Just got mine so I don't think for a long time. Unless I hit the lotto! lol

even if you could buy anything you would not keep the little speed?

 

[zoom ms3]

keeping mine forever..will eventually make it the beater and have a vette, audi s5, or m3..something along those lines

 

[hugador]

I'll keep mine until sh.. happens.

 

[chodaboy1980]

I am already thinking of selling mine. Don't get me wrong, it is the best car I have ever had. It just falls into a really awkward spot in autocross. I am up against awd beasts that always kick my ass. I will probably have the car for another year or so. If I can stumble upon the 60 months 0% interest deal on an EVO X I would take it in a heartbeat. I know that I would lose a great interior and better gas milage. I really want to win at the track though.

Can anybody talk me out of this?

 

[GoFast]

I am already thinking of selling mine. Don't get me wrong, it is the best car I have ever had. It just falls into a really awkward spot in autocross. I am up against awd beasts that always kick my ass. I will probably have the car for another year or so. If I can stumble upon the 60 months 0% interest deal on an EVO X I would take it in a heartbeat. I know that I would lose a great interior and better gas milage. I really want to win at the track though.

Can anybody talk me out of this?

if you want a car to be competetive in autocross, then you should buy/build an actual auto-x car. I am assuming that the MS3 or whatever you buy is going to be your DD primarily and an auto-x car second correct?? if yes then why completely change it just because of auto-x?

 

[john blutarski]

if you want a car to be competetive in autocross, then you should buy/build an actual auto-x car. I am assuming that the MS3 or whatever you buy is going to be your DD primarily and an auto-x car second correct?? if yes then why completely change it just because of auto-x?

agree... if you're trying to be THAT competitive, then you should get a designated car for autox.

 

[chodaboy1980]

I don't really have space for an extra car just for auto-x. I would rather have a car that can do both. I know that means that there will be some compromises. It is so frustrating that it seems like my car is at the limit of modding with a few bolt ons. Sure you could make a bit more power, and have even more wheelspin. Or make a bit more power and blow up the motor.
An ecu re-flash and an exhaust net the Evo X 380hp and 380lb ft of torque. Both about an increase of 100 for less than $1500. I think I would be set with those numbers. Some suspension work and I'd be done.

 

[GoFast]

I don't really have space for an extra car just for auto-x. I would rather have a car that can do both. I know that means that there will be some compromises. It is so frustrating that it seems like my car is at the limit of modding with a few bolt ons. Sure you could make a bit more power, and have even more wheelspin. Or make a bit more power and blow up the motor.
An ecu re-flash and an exhaust net the Evo X 380hp and 380lb ft of torque. Both about an increase of 100 for less than $1500. I think I would be set with those numbers. Some suspension work and I'd be done.

ok, but you don't need more HP to be competitive in auto-x. As a matter of fact, by adding power, i think that you may even be slowing yourself down. There is a guy in vegas who has an old crx hatch that consistantly beats just about everybody there including vettes, evos, sti's, lotus's, etc... his engine is stcok and he has had soem suspension work done but that's about it. Learn to drive before you start blaming hte car for not being competetive.

With that said, I am assuming that you are more of an auto-x hobby'ist than a truly points competetive racer so no matter what car you have, you should be there competing with yourself and having fun rather than trying to figure out the best car.

 

[chodaboy1980]

I hear what you are saying. I am fairly new at autocross and am competing with myself. This will be my first full season. My driving skill has plenty of room for improvement. I just don't want to sink any more money into a car that isn't the right layout for a high performance car. I have fun out there, but down the road it won't be as much fun unless I am winning more. The MS3 is a great car, but FWD is a performance disadvantage. There is no arguing against that.

 

[dkswim]

Mines already gone. I bought a 91 Integra for 75. No car payments anymore. Cheap insurance too. I don't care if this one gets dented. I miss driving the speed though.

you overpaid

 

[GoFast]

I hear what you are saying. I am fairly new at autocross and am competing with myself. This will be my first full season. My driving skill has plenty of room for improvement. I just don't want to sink any more money into a car that isn't the right layout for a high performance car. I have fun out there, but down the road it won't be as much fun unless I am winning more. The MS3 is a great car, but FWD is a performance disadvantage. There is no arguing against that.

Well at least you aren't one of those who won't listen to anybody's opinion so kudos to you (cool)

Ultimately it is your car, money and choice but I still think that you would be surprised at how little money you have to put into the MS3, or any car for that matter, to be a pretty competitive in auto-x. If a basically stock FWD crx can put the smack down on just about everything on a pretty consistent basis you have to ask yourself, is FWD really the disadvantage that you should be concerned with?

 

[chodaboy1980]

Would you want a stock CRX as your only car that you used for both a daily driver and autocross? I want a car that I can go out there and be one of the fastest at the track every time out. As of right now I have a Cobb SRI, Cobb front and rear sway bars, TRZ motor mount, shifter bushings, 18x8 wheels with some sticky 235/40/18 dunlop direzza star specs. I have a turbo xs race pipe and some redline mt90 gear oil on the way. I am going to get the rear fenders rolled soon and possibly might get some koni fsd shocks. I am keeping all of my stock parts to I can return to stock when I sell the car. I know that selling a modded car isn't a money making proposition. I will compete all season with this setup. I might also get a Cobb turbo inlet. Any suggestions on what I could do to be more competitive?

 

[GoFast]

lol nope i wouldnt want a crx as a dd but that wasn't my point. my point was that if a stock crx is spanking me and my ms3, vette, sti, evo, etc...., then maybe i shouldn't be blaming FWD or power but instead i should be blaming myself.

Your current set up looks pretty good. I used to race superstock (gsxr600) in CCS and one of things that I would always chuckle about when listening to non-racers/street riders is when they would say a 600 is too small, or i want to upgrade to a 1000cc. I chuckled because what they failed to realize is that the 600cc wasn't the issue. the issue was that they don't have the ability to ride a 600cc to it's true limits. Only a handful of people know how to do that and the same goes with a car. Until you can truly drive the cheapest of cars(crx) to it's limit, then there really is no need to upgrade

 

[john blutarski]

^^^ sorry off topic but I had an 85 CRX si gutted to 1580 pounds. That car was the most fun to drive car I've ever driven and it only had probably 95 whp... love those cars.

 

[ericrapp]

How about and older miata for cheap you could probably keep it the hatch of the speed 3 if you are short on space! and they are cheap, really a blast to drive and come perfectly balanced out of the box ihear and read.And you would be way cool with Mazda powers in your stable. I guess some of us are a bit passionate for our cars. i need lots of power to make up for the bad driving i do in the turns. I suck but i smile the whole time

 

[ericrapp]

Would you want a stock CRX as your only car that you used for both a daily driver and autocross? I want a car that I can go out there and be one of the fastest at the track every time out. As of right now I have a Cobb SRI, Cobb front and rear sway bars, TRZ motor mount, shifter bushings, 18x8 wheels with some sticky 235/40/18 dunlop direzza star specs. I have a turbo xs race pipe and some redline mt90 gear oil on the way. I am going to get the rear fenders rolled soon and possibly might get some koni fsd shocks. I am keeping all of my stock parts to I can return to stock when I sell the car. I know that selling a modded car isn't a money making proposition. I will compete all season with this setup. I might also get a Cobb turbo inlet. Any suggestions on what I could do to be more competitive?

you are getting beat? that sounds like great car. maybe some track tips on alignment for the short courses of autocross would help. My car prefers to stretch its legs and it is close to stock alignment. Changing camber and some toe in for quicker turn in might help you out. Tire pressures are something to adjust too. You probably know all this stuff, i was just thinking about your dilemma and i want you to win too. You are racing a Speed 3 after all!

 

[chodaboy1980]

I am racing it again this sunday and I will be all season. I still think I will switch to an evo in a year or so. I know that I will be a much better driver by the end of the season. I thought that a miata might be fun but I doubt I would fit in one very well (6'3" 220lbs). I thought that an early 90's bmw 3 series might work as a track car and I would fit much better in it.

 

[ms3jake]

In a couple years when the warranty runs out.