alexlitov said:
Power: 97 kW , 130 HP SAE @ 6,000 rpm; 135 ft lb , 183 Nm @ 4,000 rpm for both vehicles!!!!
P5 weights a little under 300 pounds more.
Where did you see this? according to the brochure and website...
P5...2714lbs
Sedan ES...2668lbs (I think, I know it was 2600 something)
MSP...2800+lbs
There is a number of flawed replies in this thread...
First of all on the first page someone said something about "drag Limited"...and that it had to do with engine ouput, not air resistance...Drag Limiting always has to do with engine ouput...If you increase the output of the said engine, the drag limitation happens at a higher speed...Drag Limited refers to the condition when engine output is not enough to overcome the air resistance caused by the vehicle...It has everything to do with the shape and coeficiant of drag of the vehicle and the engine's output...
P5 and 2.0L dyno comparisons are worthless...There is no where near enough evidence to conclude that a sedan makes more power than a P5...P5's sometimes dyno on a dynojet at over 104whp stock...I never saw a sedan get that much...but that is irrelavant, evey engine makes different output numbers and every different dyno can make slightly different numbers than another (despite being of the same variety...i.e. dynojet, Mustang dyno etc.)...130bhp provided by Mazda is simply an average...some make more and some make less..
Also we cannot completely throw away the claims of being limited at 132mph...To my understanding the ECU is capable of shifting the rev limiter via input of load...I know for a fact that the limiter in first gear is higher than that of 2nd gear...or that the tach becomes completely flawed between those two gears (I can pull almost 7100rpm in first before nailing the limiter, and barely creep over 6750rpm in second before it kicks on...again I don't know if those numbers are wrong because I don't know the accuracy of the tach...)
But anyway being limited at 132mph sounds plausible...That is right around 6000rpm, which is right when the power curve of a stock FS bites it...at those levels of load accompanied with the horrible breathing of the FS at higher rpms, it would make sense for the 5th gear limiter to kick in about then...Way too many people are claiming the same thing for this to be looked at as 100% wrong...I have never reached those speeds in my P5...But I haven't found to many people that got above 130mph on a stock ECU'd protege that didn't claim that the limiter kicks in at a lower rpm than other gears...