Second part. Foot is always on the gas pedal when shifting.
First part might not turn out well if you try it.
Horrible track times...WTF?!
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Second part. Foot is always on the gas pedal when shifting.
First part might not turn out well if you try it.
I will throw my 2 cents in.
yes, working on your 60' times is a must ! BUT a guy that runs 15.4 -15.8 at 94-96mph has more to do with a loss of power than a loss of traction.
I am positive there are only 2 reasons why you would run that time, first is heat soak. So always make sure you have at least 90 minutes of down time if you want consistency.
Second, shifting.... if you shift outside the "sweet spot" of the engine you never use its full power and even with a 2.0 60 ft time you would end up running alot slower. Keep this in mind guys, a 1/4 mile race is broken up into many parts, 60' 330' 1/8th , 1000' and 1/4 mile + mph.... if you work on each one separately you can improve on each one without worrying about the others, when you have each one down..... then you are ready for an actual competent full pass.
Think of it like this...lets say the original guy that posted here would have gotten a 2.0 60' on his first pass instead of 2.6 (the one he ran 15.8) , that means if everything else would have been equal his pass would be a 15.2....still sucks. On that run I think shifting is alot more responsible for the bad times than his 60 ft.
yes, working on your 60' times is a must ! BUT a guy that runs 15.4 -15.8 at 94-96mph has more to do with a loss of power than a loss of traction.
I am positive there are only 2 reasons why you would run that time, first is heat soak. So always make sure you have at least 90 minutes of down time if you want consistency.
Second, shifting.... if you shift outside the "sweet spot" of the engine you never use its full power and even with a 2.0 60 ft time you would end up running alot slower. Keep this in mind guys, a 1/4 mile race is broken up into many parts, 60' 330' 1/8th , 1000' and 1/4 mile + mph.... if you work on each one separately you can improve on each one without worrying about the others, when you have each one down..... then you are ready for an actual competent full pass.
Think of it like this...lets say the original guy that posted here would have gotten a 2.0 60' on his first pass instead of 2.6 (the one he ran 15.8) , that means if everything else would have been equal his pass would be a 15.2....still sucks. On that run I think shifting is alot more responsible for the bad times than his 60 ft.
I dont know if I already posted this but I ran a personal best 2.09 60' with an intake and MM, front tires set to 18-20psi and rears around 40. Also this is no fluke I have ran the last 4 cars ive owned several times each and this is my first turbo car so it was hard to get used to but once you figure out what rpms and how much clutch to use you will get those times. On that note I launched around 2700 to get this and I dont dump the clutch with a thud... anymore, with my old 95 PGT I use to to launch by dumping and no clutch, I got good resuslts but I also blew my tranny at the tree. <--- Ya thats retarded.
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MSP2003.5_Nick
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It's ALL about the drivers ability and the track conditions. On a nice cold morning in my STOCK MSP with slicks I ran a 14.02. And thats not a lie. Without slicks the best i could manage was 14.67. I'd say just get some more practice in and an MS3 should easily be able to achieve 13s. Just shift like a motherfucker.
Maybe try letting some air out of the tires. I know to get any grip with a good launch on the stock 17s I was down to like 10psi. That way with a good roast I could launch close to 6 grand.
By the way I'd be ALL about monitoring a new 1/4 mile thread. the current one sucks. Is there interest in it from more peeps?
Maybe try letting some air out of the tires. I know to get any grip with a good launch on the stock 17s I was down to like 10psi. That way with a good roast I could launch close to 6 grand.
By the way I'd be ALL about monitoring a new 1/4 mile thread. the current one sucks. Is there interest in it from more peeps?
A NEW ONE YES!
Sorry I'm not believing that at all! Those cars run mid 15's low 15's at best. Slicks aren't going to take off over a full sec! Maybe if you ran on a short track.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews..._protege_road_test+t-counterpoint+page-2.html
We weren't disappointed in the turbo Proteg's hustle, however. It sprints to 60 in 6.9 seconds, covers the quarter-mile in 15.4 seconds at 91 mph, and hits 100 in 19.4 seconds
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0309scc_mazdaspeed_protege/index.html
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.8 sec.
0-60 mph: 7.6 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.9 sec
50-70 mph: 4.1 sec.
Quarter Mile time: 15.5 sec. @ 89.4 mph
Plus you're inconsistent:
you will literally be kicking yourself at the difference once you get a good pair of slicks. Best I could get on street tires was 14.5, slap on the slicks and boom instant 13.9. Of course a lot of it depends on the driver and your launch. Don't get radials though its just a waste of money, you want full drag slicks! Put them on another set of rims and have them in your room so you can stare at them before bed. Thus dreaming of rippin down the track and having a bunch of girls at the end waiting to take their clothes off as they give you your timesheet................. lol.
But reaklly though with a good burn on streets the most i could launch was like 4500rpm without spinning. With the slicks I would easily just grab and go at 6.5-7 grand! Thats a huge difference!! Better bring an extra set of axels though
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MSP2003.5_Nick
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well I have the time sheet to prove it so don't know what to tell ya. as for the 13.9 I'll admit I exagerated .01 of a second in that particular thread to make a point to people the importance of using a good set of slicks when dragging. Actual time was 14.02 though, I'll admit it.
About the "proof" you have that the car won't possibly get more than a 15 second run well just keep in mind that those two reviews are the results of a road test probably over a very short period of time. When I first got on the quarter with the car I could barely get a 15.6. It took me a full solid weekend of practice and then perfect conditions on the next weekend to get the times I did. When you own and drive the car daily you get to know a lot about how to drive it the way it needs to be driven. It also doesn't say what tire pressure or temperature it was or what rpm they were shifting at or how fast they were shifting with what reaction time. There are way too many factors to use a review like that as solid fact in the way of what the car is capable of.
The amount of factors involved in any quarter mile time is the main point I was trying to get at and it takes multiple runs to get it down and every car/driver is different. Think of just the stock tune, it was made on one car in one climate. How is it expected to perform the same over ALL of the entire continent it was sold. I don't care if you believe me, just trying to share some helpful knowledge, my time doesn't mean a thing.
About the "proof" you have that the car won't possibly get more than a 15 second run well just keep in mind that those two reviews are the results of a road test probably over a very short period of time. When I first got on the quarter with the car I could barely get a 15.6. It took me a full solid weekend of practice and then perfect conditions on the next weekend to get the times I did. When you own and drive the car daily you get to know a lot about how to drive it the way it needs to be driven. It also doesn't say what tire pressure or temperature it was or what rpm they were shifting at or how fast they were shifting with what reaction time. There are way too many factors to use a review like that as solid fact in the way of what the car is capable of.
The amount of factors involved in any quarter mile time is the main point I was trying to get at and it takes multiple runs to get it down and every car/driver is different. Think of just the stock tune, it was made on one car in one climate. How is it expected to perform the same over ALL of the entire continent it was sold. I don't care if you believe me, just trying to share some helpful knowledge, my time doesn't mean a thing.
