Holden VE HSV W427

Well it's been a long time since I posted at this site so figured this thread would be a good reentry point, seeing as this car is brethren to my GTO.

I love Holdens - wish my GTO was more to the original Holden design, GM should have left the suspension and stuff alone - made it too soft. Still handles well, but can only imagine how much better it would hold with the stiffer setup.

BTW Donas64, did you ever get a GTO, last year you was talking about one; did K-lea ever get one?
 
Well it's been a long time since I posted at this site so figured this thread would be a good reentry point, seeing as this car is brethren to my GTO.

I love Holdens - wish my GTO was more to the original Holden design, GM should have left the suspension and stuff alone - made it too soft. Still handles well, but can only imagine how much better it would hold with the stiffer setup.

BTW Donas64, did you ever get a GTO, last year you was talking about one; did K-lea ever get one?

My GTO dreams crashed and burned. Just didn't make financial sense. Makes even less now although I'd kill for a G8. A new car for me is at least 5 years off.
 
My GTO dreams crashed and burned. Just didn't make financial sense. Makes even less now although I'd kill for a G8. A new car for me is at least 5 years off.
What you driving now? did you get a new car already - hence the 5yr wait?
 
First Drive: 2008 Holden HSV GTS W427

Australia's Four-Door Corvette Z06

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If you ever wanted a four-door Corvette Z06, it figures that Australia is the best place to look. The 2008 Holden HSV GTS W427 mates the Z06's hand-built, 7.0-liter LS7 V8 with the short-wheelbase GTS version of the Holden Commodore. It's not only Australia's most powerful car ever but also the most expensive car ever to be built Down Under.

Given the Aussie-developed sedan's current 361-horsepower 6.0-liter LS3 V8 and the impending use of the Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission (a combination we should see soon in the 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP), it's perhaps not surprising that Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) would crank up the whole idea another notch.

What may surprise you, however, is that the HSV W427 of which HSV plans to build up to 427 examples costs almost twice as much as a Corvette Z06 US$142,550. Heck, it's almost US$20K more than the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, GM's most expensive model.

In Australia, where we don't have Corvettes, the W427's AU$155,500 price tag puts it into the mix with the BMW M3 and the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG. It's a big step.

In the Spirit
It's said that the plan for the 2008 Holden HSV GTS W427 was hatched two years ago when auto industry tycoon and HSV owner Tom Walkinshaw (an ex-racer) was sharing a bottle of fine scotch with Denny Mooney, then chairman of Holden. (We're guessing that Walkinshaw, born and bred in Scotland, chose the scotch.)

Mooney had been the vehicle performance padre at GM Engineering in Australia and was looking toward Holden's 60th anniversary in 2008, so he asked Walkinshaw what he intended to do to mark HSV's 20th anniversary the same year.

Seems to us that another quiet night in Tom's scotch cellar would be as good a way as any. But that would be to deny several hundred HSV fans the opportunity to contribute AU$155,500 to the drinks kitty.

Ninety deposits have already been taken for the W427, making HSV's production goal of 427 examples look attainable. Several are doubtlessly destined to share dehumidified garage space with their 1970s Aussie muscle-car forebears, examples of which have lately been nibbling at prices of a half-million dollars at auction.

Rising From Defeat
Walkinshaw still feels the sting from the failure of another project with the 427-cubic-inch GM V8, the 2002 HRT 427, a big-motor version of the Monaro that we knew as the last Pontiac GTO. The stripped-down, 7.0-liter Corvette C5R-powered prototype attracted 50 firm deposits, which had to be refunded when HSV realized the proposed $150K price tag just wasn't going to add up to any profit.

Funny, because in April this year, one of the two HRT 427 prototypes built was sold for an Australian record AU$920,000. The buyer, a rural home builder known only as "Chooka," has a stash of some 20 classic Holden Monaros, not to mention a private racetrack on his property.

The pitfalls in Walkinshaw's experience with the hand-built HRT 427 shaped the HSV W427, which features a stock Corvette Z06 drivetrain that has been inserted into what's essentially an HSV GTS a far more affordable proposition. Unlike the HSV's LS3-powered models, which are built on the Holden production line in Elizabeth, near Adelaide, the W427 has to be de-LS3-ed and rebuilt at HSV's headquarters in Melbourne.

The 427-cubic-inch engine is almost identical in length and width to the LS3, although it can be mounted slightly lower because of its dry sump. This occasioned some redecorating of the engine bay, with a fabricated alloy oil tank displacing the original air box. An oversized Hoover-style snout takes over the air box's function and sits directly ahead of the engine, sucking cold air.

At 4,122 pounds, the W427 is almost 1,000 pounds heavier than a Corvette Z06. Appropriate ECU recalibration and custom four-into-one exhaust headers explain a small difference in power output, as the W427's V8 delivers 503 hp at 6,500 rpm and 472 pound-feet of torque at 5,000 rpm.

End result: the W427 is easily HSV's and Australia's fastest four-door ever, with 0-100 km/h (62 mph) acceleration in 4.7 seconds (a second slower than a Z06) and a standing quarter-mile in the high 12s.

Right on the Nose
If littlies like the BMW M3 and Merc C63 AMG can get away with V8s, it figures that a great big GTS should be able to cop a big-block. The LS7 adds just 20 pounds over the GTS's front end, and overall the HSV car weighs just 60 pounds more than an LS3-engined GTS.

The W427's suspension has been addressed with 30 percent stiffer spring rates all around and the Magnetic Ride Control (MRC) dampers recalibrated accordingly, while the ride height is lower by 0.8 inch (which will keep you alert on Australia's rugged rural roads).

Like the bolt-on bodywork, the 20-inch wheels have been styled by HSV designer Julian Quincey and they're a standout literally. The curb-
crunching spokes are scalloped to accommodate six-piston brake calipers gripping 15-inch floating rotors. These unique new calipers boast a 50 percent increase in brake-pad contact area than HSV's previous premium braking system.

The best brake pedal feel this side of Zuffenhausen and equally masterful ABS calibration allow aggressive exploitation of the grip provided by the W427's Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (245/35R20s in front, and 275/30R20s in the rear).

Working-Class Hero
This big-block, big-buck bruiser does aggression very well. The rumbling grunt of the LS7 might lull one into believing it's all about the bottom-end power. But that torque peak at 5,000 rpm tells the other side of the story.

The bottomless well of effortless grunt and the softer of the two MRC suspension settings make the W427 perfect for the ham-handed, blue-collar millionaire to sloth around. The clutch action is pleasantly light and progressive, although the TR6060 gearbox is a little less so, being knuckly in its action and prone to balk in its narrow gate if hurried.

At 62 mph, the overall gearing has the engine rolling over at 1,100 rpm in 6th (the instant fuel readout indicating 25 mpg), 2,300 rpm in 5th and 2,800 rpm in 4th. And if you drop to 3rd, you get to meet the other engine....

Lucky Sevens: 7,000cc at 7,000 rpm
Anywhere above 3,500 rpm, the LS7 mill is making more torque than an LS3's peak torque output of 400 lb-ft. By 4,500 rpm it's a rev-hungry, race-ready monster, pulling absolutely all the way to the cutout at 7,000 rpm. The car hunkers down on its haunches, squirming gently as it truffles the road surface for traction. The vacuum-operated valves of the mufflers open wide to decrease backpressure and unleash a gravelly, big-hearted howl.

And the fun doesn't end at the first bend. The steering effort is a tad lighter than one expects, but its feel off-center and under load is excellent. Here ends any fear of nose-heavy handling, as the confident, responsive turn-in is true to the Holden GTS, while the rear suspension telegraphs its intentions.

The W427 is simply operating a rung higher than the LS3-powered GTS in every way braking capability and feel, turn-in grip and the power to smear the rear tires against the road surface as you fine-tune the car's attitude on exit.

With the suspension damping at its softest setting, there's perceptibly slower rebound response and the occasional, small stumble over bumps in the corners. On the flip side, this setting helps one better feel the rear end responding to throttle inputs. In the firmer setting, the W427's ride quality is a remarkable achievement.

We'd reckon that this 1.8-ton sedan's point-and squirt prowess would keep it in touch with smaller European rivals like the M3 and C63 AMG, even on tighter roads.

Now, About That Stiff Scotch
Of course, the 2008 HSV Holden GTS W427 isn't an AU$150,000 Mercedes or BMW; it's an AU$150,000 Holden. Despite the car's amazing dynamic ability, there are subtle signals of its working-class origins in body-drumming, low-speed drivetrain lash, stamped door hinges and hard interior plastics.

And aside from specially trimmed Recaro-esque seats, plus instrumentation that's more fussy and illegible than the standard Holden stuff, there's very, very little aside from the engine to differentiate the W427 from the GTS model that costs less than half as much.

For this money, you ought to get either loads of luxury or loads of lightness. But there's no tailored sound system, no seat massage or air-bladder lumbar trickery, no sat-nav or television. And the rear wing is the only carbon fiber we saw.

The 2008 HSV W427's LS7 drivetrain is phenomenally powerful, the well-sorted chassis gives great grip and feel, the two-stage MRC dampers deliver impressive ride quality and the brakes are up to the task. But collectibility aside, the W427's price is either cynical or hysterical, as too much of the car betrays its humble Holden roots.

This is the fastest and most capable Aussie four-door yet; but pricing must be about heart, 'cuz it ain't all in the hardware.
 
Terrible review, car is way too ugly, tons of body roll, yucky wheels, expensive as hell...

(***) (%%%) <--- Drooling and envy smilies inserted here (lol2)
 
AutoCar tests drives the Holden HSV W427

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What is it?

If you thought the Vauxhall VXR8 was a bit special, you should see this. Its the Holden Special Vehicles W427.
The HSV W427 has been partly built to commemorate the 20th anniversary of HSV cars (the 1988 Commodore Group A SV homologation special was the first).
But the HSV W427 has also been built because Australias Holden Special Vehicles, owned by Tom Walkinshaw, has been able to get its hands on some 7.0-litre Corvette Z06 engines. Holden reckons the current-generation Commodore can handle the LS3 V8s 503bhp and 472lb ft.
The W427 (W for Walkinshaw, 427 for cubic inches) is quite a serious installation job by HSV standards.
Usually Holdens Adelaide factory fits the powerplants on the regular line and leaves HSVs Melbourne facility to finish the job, but here the 7.0-litre engines are delivered straight to HSV in crates from the US.
So in HSVs plant the factory motor has to come out before the new one is fitted, along with a dry sump, new intake manifold, HSV-specific ignition mapping an active-valve exhaust.
There are some pretty serious suspension changes, too, including magnetic dampers and, by HSVs affordable-brute standards, a serious price of around $155,000 (about 70,000, depending on the exchange rate).
Whats it like?

Anyone whos a fan of the VXR8 (and that includes me) will love this car. At idle the valve in the active exhaust is open, so it woofles and burbles like a 7.0-litre V8 ought to. The drivetrain is slick, with a manageable clutch and a new, stronger but slicker-shifting six-speed gearbox.
And by crikey is it fast. HSV claims 0-62mph in 4.7sec, which is quick in itself, but it would probably go even faster with a quicker gearbox and more traction.
The engine is astoundingly flexible, though. This is a very torquey motor, yet it also revs cleanly out to 7000rpm, past peak power at 6500rpm. Despite the extra capacity over other HSVs it feels no more unbalanced.
Because of the extent of the changes to the suspension, the W427 feels much tighter than a regular VXR8, with sharper, more accurate steering and better-controlled damping, with no massive drop in ride quality.
Theres a track mode to the damping, too, but its good enough to use even on lumpy roads. The W427 is a bit fidgety with it on, but it steers and handles with even more precision.
And of course, the W427 has a beefy limited-slip differential. So, of course, it pulls big, smokey skids to Olympic standards.
Should I buy one?

Im afraid that, unless you live in Australia, you cant. Theyre all destined for HSV-mad enthusiasts down under. The W427 is expensive, but still significantly undercuts M5s and the like in Australia, so all 90 scheduled to be built in 2008 sold easily. Production is limited to 427 units overall.
HSV says none will come to the UK, which is a shame. But give them a call. They could probably be persuaded.
 
(shocked), wow...

The red interior looks a little bit wild in the pic, but I don't mind really
 
New HSV Supercar Confirmed

Holden Special Vehicles has limited production of its 375kW 7.0-litre W427 to 200 but says therell be a replacement for the super-Commodore.

HSV has confirmed it will develop another high-performance supercar as part of its quest to take on more established European marques.
The announcement comes as HSV managing director Phil Harding more than halved the maximum number of W427 supercars the Melbourne-based performance specialist will build.

HSV says it will produce just 200 of the HSV W427 in an effort to protect the exclusivity of the fastest, most expensive Holden ever built.
Thats less than half the 427 limit HSV previously put on the vehicle that went on sale under the guidance of former HSV boss Scott Grant.
Harding, however, has also confirmed HSV will build another supercar.
Were encouraged by this [W427 project], says Harding. Its a part of HSV well repeat in the next 10 years.

The W427 program has been a great success, ahead of target and ahead of plan. We have been delighted with the response to bring to market this unique piece of Australian performance car history.
Harding says the decision to limit the number of W427s sold to 200 was taken to end the confusion.

I wasnt here at that time, he says of the original build limit of 427 cars. Its a bit of an error were trying to correct.

The W427, like other HSVs, is based on the Holden Commodore but gets a Chevrolet Corvette-sourced 7.0-litre V8 engine with 375kW of power.
Harding says the 200-car limit is a more realistic representation of demand for the W427 and will protect the integrity of the most special HSV ever built.

Existing W427 customers have told us they want to keep their purchase as exclusive as possible, and some potential customers have asked us for clarification on exactly how many W427 supercars we intend to build. Customers want to be part of an even more exclusive club.

HSV has already sold about 100 of the W427 and is holding orders for another 40.

With only 60 left to sell, HSV says it will stop taking orders in June 2009.
Harding concedes the current economic crisis which has seen vehicle sales stall around the world, especially with more expensive vehicles has had an impact.

We started planning this program in early 2006 when the financial conditions were different, says Harding.

He says the upside of capping the number of W427 sales is the added exclusivity of having fewer in the market.

Current owners will receive a boost from the added exclusivity this announcement brings, whilst those considering a W427 purchase will need to act quickly before they are all sold out.

Despite paying $155,500 for the privilege of owning the fastest HSV ever, some owners may never experience the V8 performance of the made-to-order W427.

Theres a few I know of that have just been garaged, says Harding. One customer has bought two one to drive and one to keep.
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The W427 program has been a great success, ahead of target and ahead of plan. We have been delighted with the response to bring to market this unique piece of Australian performance car history.
Harding says the decision to limit the number of W427s sold to 200 was taken to end the confusion.

I wasnt here at that time, he says of the original build limit of 427 cars. Its a bit of an error were trying to correct.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense now.... right...

Heard on Sydney:

"How is it possible that I can share the privilege with another 426 owners? That is like owning a Corolla! Owning one along with other 199 owners is much better"

Following the article Holden proceeded to start producing new W200 badges to replace the W427 ones. New badges will be applied at no cost...




LOL
 
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