Here is another blown motor

[jaymode]

To elaborate more on the wieght issue I brought up.

If you take your car to the dyno, and tune it for 12 psi, ect ect ect, you will still ru nthe chance of blowing your car, when you get on the road. WHY you as?

Simple, there is no true load on the drive train, while the car is on the dnyo. There is no compensation for the wieght of the car, that the dyno can apply to the rollers, to simulate driving a 2k lbs car on the road.

Therefore, a car running close to its limits at 12 psi, with a 180 lbs person in it, will be well over its limits when 4 people weighing 180lbs each get in.

I thought that some types of dyno where able to vary load. Like the dynapack, where it connects to hubs and not the on rollers so they could vary load???

BUt I do agree that more people, equals more load, and can lead to booooooom.

 

[03MSPRO]

Yup...Smaller turbos generate more heat than larger ones. So our itty-bitty T25 turbo, which is already putting out a helluva lot of heat, is being put through a itty-bitty intercooler that can barely do its job at stock boost.

And when you increase the boost, the already high temperatures are increased even higher.

Higher intake air temperatures = higher risk of knock = boom.

Cool the intake air with a CAI and FMIC, and decrease the backpressure in the exhaust, and you'll have a more powerful and safer setup. And some dealers will still honor your warranty with these airflow mods.

I have been saying this all along!!! but people do not listen or call me stupid.

 

[LinuxRacr]

People, it's time to chill out and have a ******* latte or something. Let's keep this thread in perspective.

 

[1sty]

OMG It's Miss Cleo...
Let me guess I'll find love, win a 100 million dollar lotto, and blow my engine oh well I guess it couldn't all be good

Welcome to the Psychic MP3 network we see all, we know all, nothing is hidden from our "special" sight. It as much a burden as it is a gift. (k)

Whos the father of the Baby?

(rofl)

 

[Kooldino]

Hey, you can buy a used motor...PM me if you want details.

 

[1sty]

but you are boosting 5 psi with a T3??? how many psi is that with a T25? what kind of ECU or fuel management do YOU have? better than the MSP?
Practice what you preach and lower your boost levels!!

I have an RR-FPR and a inline fuel pump that can increase the fuel pressure to over 100 PSi to keep me at any A:F I chose. I also run colder plugs.I also have a wideband O2 that allows me to watch my A:F to be damn sure I am getting the right fuel. Not to mention I had the benifit of having not only corky bell but Flyin Miata's Bill, Keith, ken and all the others totaly map the cars response to boost and dyno tune to know where the car may knock.
5 PSi was deamed safe for an MP3 by Flyin Protege (the same that new the MSp would be smoking engines) and that was on 91 octane. I run 94 only.

So, I had some of the best people in the turbo buisness verify that my setup would be perfectly safe, did you?
Did any of these people with smoked engines?
NO! They simply jacked up there boost levels and nothing more.

 

[1sty]

his kit is good up to 6 psi with the RRFPR that BEGI supplied him, he also has a wideband 02 to monitor the afr. the boost gauge and a mbc/fcd combo that most msp owners are using doesnt monitor anything. Obviously he knows whats going on or his mp3 wouldnt still be running. IF im correct he even has one of the prototype BEGI kits so its been running far longer than the msp has been in production.

Correct, I have one of the original BEGI kits although most everything has been upgraded to the FP stuff.
I boosted at 15000 miles. I know have 28000.

 

[low_psi]

once again a lack of tuning has created a boom.

 

[yashooa]

But would adding an intercooler, colder plugs, feul and timing management, bigger injectors, forgred internals really cure all.

I don't know but I think it might have made that one guys dick bigger

 

[Mr. Win]

if you live in so fl i could get you a gsr motor and tranny with 500miles on it for 2500 or the whole car for 3500 vhp headers too haha

 

[Kooldino]

I don't know but I think it might have made that one guys dick bigger

sheet, don't be mad at a playa cause he can afford nice parts.

 

[03MSPRO]

So, I had some of the best people in the turbo buisness verify that my setup would be perfectly safe, did you?
Did any of these people with smoked engines?
NO! They simply jacked up there boost levels and nothing more.

We had Calloway and Mazda. Aren't they better?
I see Calloway and Mazda racing on TV all the time. I never saw Corky? lol
(j/k)

 

[unwrittenLaw]

All in all...the MSP is still not a bad car for the price. People need to stop being so power hungry and try and enjoy the car for what it is. If you don't, go get something else. But in the meantime don't try and make the car something its not....

 

[1sty]

We had Calloway and Mazda. Aren't they better?
I see Calloway and Mazda racing on TV all the time. I never saw Corky? lol
(j/k)

You had Callaway and Mazda for 7 PSI only, NOT 10+.

 

[Mspeedchica3.5]

Okay for all of those who have something to say one yes its my car second i am a female and third my husband also is on here as well he is the one that has been postin the stuff up here not me, so dont me gettin on me for blown up any car GOT IT?!!
I rather have a blown engine than a wrecked car!! like some people that wreck their cars in weeks or a month after having it. And the crank pully had nothing to do with the car if so, it would have blown up in the summer time we got the damn thing put on the car in the first place so get of that note and leave it alone!! its getting kind of old!! Every one has their own opinion thats true, but get throught the facts for before u start blastin things u have no clue about in the first place!

 

[mp5jeff]

We had Calloway and Mazda. Aren't they better?
I see Calloway and Mazda racing on TV all the time. I never saw Corky? lol
(j/k)

i think the way calloway put together the turbo kit in the msp shows how ""good"" they are....

 

[mp5jeff]

Okay for all of those who have something to say one yes its my car second i am a female and third my husband also is on here as well he is the one that has been postin the stuff up here not me, so dont me gettin on me for blown up any car GOT IT?!!
I rather have a blown engine than a wrecked car!! like some people that wreck their cars in weeks or a month after having it. And the crank pully had nothing to do with the car if so, it would have blown up in the summer time we got the damn thing put on the car in the first place so get of that note and leave it alone!! its getting kind of old!! Every one has their own opinion thats true, but get throught the facts for before u start blastin things u have no clue about in the first place!

actually, i think i would rather have a wrecked car then a ****** blown engine, that way your insurance will pay for a NEW car, unlike how you are about to pay 6k(what mazda quoted you) for a new engine, i hope with the next engine you don't just "up the boost" again and blow another one because thats what im guessing you did also it says in your signature that you ran the car at 11psi on the track so im guessing thats your daily driven boost. you should just sell the car and get a civic so that you can't get "boost" happy....with the money that you would have payed for the engine you might be able to get a nice civic for woooooo wooooooo

 

[funnylittlman]

Hey don't knock Calloway THAT much.

Mazda told them, "here is a bin full of parts, make the Protege faster, and oh you are on a STRICT budget"

So what are you suppose to do with intercooler from a Turbo Diesel Protege? Put it in our cars!

 

[bored132]

i think that reading this tread took 5 years off my life!!!!

ps. sorry that your motor blow up, best of luck

 

[nictlg7]

**I was wondering how many engines have blown so far? How many blown engines have we all heard of so far?**
I should have updated everyone sooner on my situation. Here it is though, I blew my engine over the holiday. I have had mine in the shop since the first week I bought it complaining of coolant leaks, hesitation, grinding noises, etc. It was revving high, and so we decided to take it to a better dealership (Browning in Cerritos), since Don Kott (Carson) lost its franchise. (Go figure, the Pre-Delivery inspection was done terribly, they didn't even fill my washer fluid or check that leak in the coolant, or clean the black sticky stuff from my paint) At any rate, the car died on the way to Browning, and had to be towed there. A clutch, throw out bearing, some radiator hoses, and coolant hoses all were replaced, and the flywheel resurfaced. The car went in on a Monday, I got it back Thursday night. Friday night, I drove from California to Las Vegas (about 4 hours). With average highway speeds, the engine blew a hole in the rod. I have never taken my car to the track or even street raced anyone. So there is no way they can say it was customer abuse. They are saying some ground straps were disconnected, and my gauges and oil cap were "modifications" that may have changed settings. BS...Anyone have any input, has anyone been able to overcome these problems?