PROTEGE_ES
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have you dynoed ur car yet? what's the news on this?
Head Work and Custom Cams
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shinzen said:
yeah it will still work...That is one of the things though that makes this impossible to be "completely" plug and play...but the MAP sensor is in the Link's main unit...and you simply run a vaccuum line of some sort from the intake manifold (after the TB) to the link...I am still getting details on that, and I haven't poked around our intake manifold yet to see if we can just use a T-connector to tap into a current line...90% of the time that is possible, but in a worse case to get the right vacuum sent to the sensor you need to tap a hole and use a "nipple" to slip a hose over...After that you can completely remove the MAF sensor from the intake system...
Sorry guys, School is unleashing hell at the moment and it is difficult to find the spare time to get all these little things figured out...The triggering, with help of Nick, is more or less figured out...and actually Neil from link electro contacted a source that works with Haltech for a good bit of that info (They have a lot more R&D with FS engine's compared to Link)...Next in line is figuring the "dwell", if any Mazda (or ford), incorporated into the stock coil packs and igniting system...He promises that if the stock ones get cracked it can be said and done, pretty much plug and play (aside from the MAP issue) for less than one grand...
twilightprotege
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- 2001 323 Astina SP20 (P5)
still no dyno run yet - am trying for this saturday...but i'm not even 40% sure on that yet
twilightprotege
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- 2001 323 Astina SP20 (P5)
okily dokily - dyno run is booked in for this coming saturday 8th november at 10am
feels good ha!! red line like nothing to 7400 rpms
I am glad that someone else did this and get use to red line really fast. In my case it happens after 4500 rpms and it's because of the open loop mode in the ECU not really for the Vtcs. i know cause i have tryied it with and W/o them.
You will experience alot of fun moments from now on.You ECU does have to adjust and that will happen after about 300 miles although it will be a bit dissapointing since it can't no longer control your engine well.i have no idle problems but it's cause i got stock cams. This is the beggining of a long road of tuning believe me but the power that can be obtain is endless with the right fuel management and spark.I'll give you a tip. Get Beru's
Silverstone plugs,They are awesome,no resistor and made by the germans of pure silver.you will notice the difference.here they cost $7.99 each and are worth every penny.i have been working for awhile already on solutions to really get the full advantage of the porting and polishing with alot of testing and re-testing and so far i have improved alot but need more trouble shooting and stuff.when i get it all right i will let you in my deep secrets!!!
i am doing 2 more heads right now and 2 more manis,one will be just like mine with nice oversize valves on the intake not the exhaust,by the way do not worry about the exhaust just the intake as manny have suggest already on other posts.i will do my own dyno soon and will get alot of numbers with different set-ups. let's compare notes in the future.
Anyway enjoy it dude the zoom zoom way.....
best luck
Green
I am glad that someone else did this and get use to red line really fast. In my case it happens after 4500 rpms and it's because of the open loop mode in the ECU not really for the Vtcs. i know cause i have tryied it with and W/o them.
You will experience alot of fun moments from now on.You ECU does have to adjust and that will happen after about 300 miles although it will be a bit dissapointing since it can't no longer control your engine well.i have no idle problems but it's cause i got stock cams. This is the beggining of a long road of tuning believe me but the power that can be obtain is endless with the right fuel management and spark.I'll give you a tip. Get Beru's
Silverstone plugs,They are awesome,no resistor and made by the germans of pure silver.you will notice the difference.here they cost $7.99 each and are worth every penny.i have been working for awhile already on solutions to really get the full advantage of the porting and polishing with alot of testing and re-testing and so far i have improved alot but need more trouble shooting and stuff.when i get it all right i will let you in my deep secrets!!!
i am doing 2 more heads right now and 2 more manis,one will be just like mine with nice oversize valves on the intake not the exhaust,by the way do not worry about the exhaust just the intake as manny have suggest already on other posts.i will do my own dyno soon and will get alot of numbers with different set-ups. let's compare notes in the future.
Anyway enjoy it dude the zoom zoom way.....
best luck
Green
ProtegePoe
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Oooooo can't wait for the dyno
twilightprotege
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- 2001 323 Astina SP20 (P5)
i certainly dont think it'll be massive numbers because of how poor the stock exhaust is...but we'll see how i go
twilightprotege
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- 2001 323 Astina SP20 (P5)
i'm off to see the dyno........the wonderful dyno of oz
(yes it's saturday here already....7:46am to be precise)
(yes it's saturday here already....7:46am to be precise)
Re: feels good ha!! red line like nothing to 7400 rpms
green MP3 said:I am glad that someone else did this and get use to red line really fast. In my case it happens after 4500 rpms and it's because of the open loop mode in the ECU not really for the Vtcs. i know cause i have tryied it with and W/o them.
You will experience alot of fun moments from now on.You ECU does have to adjust and that will happen after about 300 miles although it will be a bit dissapointing since it can't no longer control your engine well.i have no idle problems but it's cause i got stock cams. This is the beggining of a long road of tuning believe me but the power that can be obtain is endless with the right fuel management and spark.I'll give you a tip. Get Beru's
Silverstone plugs,They are awesome,no resistor and made by the germans of pure silver.you will notice the difference.here they cost $7.99 each and are worth every penny.i have been working for awhile already on solutions to really get the full advantage of the porting and polishing with alot of testing and re-testing and so far i have improved alot but need more trouble shooting and stuff.when i get it all right i will let you in my deep secrets!!!
i am doing 2 more heads right now and 2 more manis,one will be just like mine with nice oversize valves on the intake not the exhaust,by the way do not worry about the exhaust just the intake as manny have suggest already on other posts.i will do my own dyno soon and will get alot of numbers with different set-ups. let's compare notes in the future.
Anyway enjoy it dude the zoom zoom way.....
best luck
Green
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Guess you really believe you are the man !! ha!!
listen man, i know that you have knowledge about cars and engines, i do not know if you can do it in practice like i can but i really don't care cause my purpose here is not to talk bad about other people but rather learn from them and share what i can about what i know.
Like now i just learn something about you that does not impress me nor helps me in any way. What i already know about engines and stuff would be enough for alot of mechanics to just settle and stop there, not me and the reason is cause i am not as ignorant as you to believe that i know it all. I AM NOT TRYING TO CREATE A WAR BETWEEN YOU AND ME. i am 32 years old and don't have time for bulls*** but if you ever want to just talk about cars and be mature about it i am all ears.
Green
listen man, i know that you have knowledge about cars and engines, i do not know if you can do it in practice like i can but i really don't care cause my purpose here is not to talk bad about other people but rather learn from them and share what i can about what i know.
Like now i just learn something about you that does not impress me nor helps me in any way. What i already know about engines and stuff would be enough for alot of mechanics to just settle and stop there, not me and the reason is cause i am not as ignorant as you to believe that i know it all. I AM NOT TRYING TO CREATE A WAR BETWEEN YOU AND ME. i am 32 years old and don't have time for bulls*** but if you ever want to just talk about cars and be mature about it i am all ears.
Green
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twilightprotege
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well...now back to our regular programming....
a few comments first.....well i'm a bit disappointed, but i certainly understand why. i was expecting more of an increase, but then again this was really an untried combo...
the first thing the guy at the performance shop said to me was "i think you need a new ecu to raise the rev limit"
and the second was "getting adjustable cam gears should help you a real lot"
the reason he said this???? max power is on redline (6500rpm).
the first run he did he hit 113.5whp....right on redline. the second run (which i have a print out of) he said he jumped off right before redline - got 111.3whp
power and torque are less now all the way up to about 5400rpm (which is about where my VICS kicks in)
so summing up...happy? not really, but i can see the head and cams combo has a fark load of potential...just need to rev higher. glad i have done the work? still yes....this work is all in preparation for down the track...it was never meant to be the perfect combo for what i have now
a few comments first.....well i'm a bit disappointed, but i certainly understand why. i was expecting more of an increase, but then again this was really an untried combo...
the first thing the guy at the performance shop said to me was "i think you need a new ecu to raise the rev limit"
and the second was "getting adjustable cam gears should help you a real lot"
the reason he said this???? max power is on redline (6500rpm).
the first run he did he hit 113.5whp....right on redline. the second run (which i have a print out of) he said he jumped off right before redline - got 111.3whp
power and torque are less now all the way up to about 5400rpm (which is about where my VICS kicks in)
so summing up...happy? not really, but i can see the head and cams combo has a fark load of potential...just need to rev higher. glad i have done the work? still yes....this work is all in preparation for down the track...it was never meant to be the perfect combo for what i have now
Damn Andrew that kinda sucks. If for no other reason than not completely proving Darin wrong. 
I was hoping you'd get at least 120-130 before the standalone. Oh wait, you still need exhaust too. Maybe that'll help a bunch with all that air you've got going in. Oh wel, I'm just rambling. Hopefully things will improve when you get farther along in the project. I'll keep an eye on it.
JT
I was hoping you'd get at least 120-130 before the standalone. Oh wait, you still need exhaust too. Maybe that'll help a bunch with all that air you've got going in. Oh wel, I'm just rambling. Hopefully things will improve when you get farther along in the project. I'll keep an eye on it.JT
twilightprotege
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yeah probably the weakest link at the moment is the exhaust...but once that's freed up the rev limit is way way way too low.
i'll get adjustable cam gears next, then haltech ecu.
i'll get adjustable cam gears next, then haltech ecu.
