well guys, heres an honest answer to your question....just bought a ms3 and first thing i had to do is show the neighbor down the road i aint messing around....lol the neon and the ms3 are torque limited in 1st and 2nd....with that being said the neon was pretty stock(air intake) and my ms3 bone stock......1st and 2nd was pretty close and 3rd gear i pulled slightly......about 4-5 feet and stayed there until about 75mph until it was unsafe to go faster......thats an honest account of two fairly even drivers.....
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Has the MS3 dethroned SRT4?
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got_titan said:well guys, heres an honest answer to your question....just bought a ms3 and first thing i had to do is show the neighbor down the road i aint messing around....lol the neon and the ms3 are torque limited in 1st and 2nd....with that being said the neon was pretty stock(air intake) and my ms3 bone stock......1st and 2nd was pretty close and 3rd gear i pulled slightly......about 4-5 feet and stayed there until about 75mph until it was unsafe to go faster......thats an honest account of two fairly even drivers.....
I figured that. The SRT-4 is a high 13's car, and the MS3 is supposedly a low 14 sec. car.
I think I saw you driving on the highway yesterday. Is your MS3 black?
got_titan said:well guys, heres an honest answer to your question....just bought a ms3 and first thing i had to do is show the neighbor down the road i aint messing around....lol the neon and the ms3 are torque limited in 1st and 2nd....with that being said the neon was pretty stock(air intake) and my ms3 bone stock......1st and 2nd was pretty close and 3rd gear i pulled slightly......about 4-5 feet and stayed there until about 75mph until it was unsafe to go faster......thats an honest account of two fairly even drivers.....
Awesome the first SRT-4 vs MS3 good run!! thx for the info!!!
what year SRT-4? 03-04
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I'm not understanding this statement. He said he pulled on the srt4. Yet the srt4 is faster.Knox Joe said:I figured that. The SRT-4 is a high 13's car, and the MS3 is supposedly a low 14 sec. car.
I think I saw you driving on the highway yesterday. Is your MS3 black?
Here's part of car and driver's review on the MSP3
It didnt even after painting the pavement Bridgestone black with more than 30 hole shots. Working the shifter feverishly the low ratios in first and second mean two shifts happen before 60 mph we finally scorched a 5.8-second 0-to-60 time and a 14.4-second quarter-mile at 99 mph. The 156-hp Mazda 3 s wagon hits 60 in 7.4 seconds. The last WRX sedan we tested ran six flat to 60 with a 14.6-second quarter-mile and all four wheels digging [Cheap Speed, Round 23, C/D, September 2005]. Thats a difference worth knowing. We also did more than the usual stops from 70 mph, getting 167 feet, and circled a dusty, less-than-perfect skidpad to produce a brag-worthy 0.87 g.
Here's what they said about the SRT4
The '03 car ran to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and cleared the quarter in 14.1 seconds at 102 mph. The '04 model nipped 0.3 second off the 60-mph sprint (5.3 seconds) and ran the quarter in 13.9 at 103 mph. Braking from 70 mph (169 feet), roadholding (0.86 g), and top speed (153 mph) were all about the same for both models.
From what I've read the MSP3 isn't going to do the job. Look at the skid pad and top speeds. To me the SRT4 is still tops, they should have lightend up the weight on the 3 if they really wanted it to be king.
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hey, are you on titantalkk forums? I go there some times(same username as here) cause my dad has a Titan. Great f'n trucks. I cant imagine it with a supercharger like you have. Must be nuts!got_titan said:well guys, heres an honest answer to your question....just bought a ms3 and first thing i had to do is show the neighbor down the road i aint messing around....lol the neon and the ms3 are torque limited in 1st and 2nd....with that being said the neon was pretty stock(air intake) and my ms3 bone stock......1st and 2nd was pretty close and 3rd gear i pulled slightly......about 4-5 feet and stayed there until about 75mph until it was unsafe to go faster......thats an honest account of two fairly even drivers.....
Also, you raced on your brand new MS3? No break in period of at least 1k miles and to be race sure about 1.5k miles?
yes, that was me in knoxville........im a firm believer in break the car in like your going to drive it........did the same with the titan and shes puttin down 425 rwhp with the charger. im am a member of titantalk...same name there..the neon was an 03......you guys can rest assured im telling you the truth. im a very respected member over at titantalk and will surely prove myself here.....
Hughes412 said:I'm not understanding this statement. He said he pulled on the srt4. Yet the srt4 is faster.
Here's part of car and driver's review on the MSP3
It didnt even after painting the pavement Bridgestone black with more than 30 hole shots. Working the shifter feverishly the low ratios in first and second mean two shifts happen before 60 mph we finally scorched a 5.8-second 0-to-60 time and a 14.4-second quarter-mile at 99 mph. The 156-hp Mazda 3 s wagon hits 60 in 7.4 seconds. The last WRX sedan we tested ran six flat to 60 with a 14.6-second quarter-mile and all four wheels digging [Cheap Speed, Round 23, C/D, September 2005]. Thats a difference worth knowing. We also did more than the usual stops from 70 mph, getting 167 feet, and circled a dusty, less-than-perfect skidpad to produce a brag-worthy 0.87 g.
Here's what they said about the SRT4
The '03 car ran to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and cleared the quarter in 14.1 seconds at 102 mph. The '04 model nipped 0.3 second off the 60-mph sprint (5.3 seconds) and ran the quarter in 13.9 at 103 mph. Braking from 70 mph (169 feet), roadholding (0.86 g), and top speed (153 mph) were all about the same for both models.
From what I've read the MSP3 isn't going to do the job. Look at the skid pad and top speeds. To me the SRT4 is still tops, they should have lightend up the weight on the 3 if they really wanted it to be king.
Thats what I've been thinking. It seems that while the MS3 is leaps and bounds above the SRT-4 quality wise, the SRT-4 seems like it's still got bragging rights down the strip.
got_titan said:yes, that was me in knoxville........im a firm believer in break the car in like your going to drive it........did the same with the titan and shes puttin down 425 rwhp with the charger. im am a member of titantalk...same name there..the neon was an 03......you guys can rest assured im telling you the truth. im a very respected member over at titantalk and will surely prove myself here.....
Oh well if they believe you then I guess I have too!(ughdance)
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no need to be a schmuck
LOL I'm just playing. I believe you. I can see you pulling on him if you got the launch. But facts are facts. The ms3 is just heavy and the ms3 is only putting out about 20whp more than the SRT4. So the weight kills the power.
The 03 is just slower then the 04 so that also has a lot to do with it.
The 03 is just slower then the 04 so that also has a lot to do with it.
lol I really was just playing. I was going to post right after that one but then I had to answer the phone.evilmonkeyMSP said:no need to be a schmuck
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There is alot of varied opinions on breaking in a new engine. Getting rings seated properly blah blah blah. I agree with running it hard from the start allow your rings to seat properly without tearing up the cylinder walls gradually getting seated.
With a brand new MS3 how do you guys think those 150 miles were put on the car from the dealer before he bought it. I'm sure it wasn't something you would want more details on.
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With a brand new MS3 how do you guys think those 150 miles were put on the car from the dealer before he bought it. I'm sure it wasn't something you would want more details on.
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got_titan said:yes, that was me in knoxville........im a firm believer in break the car in like your going to drive it........did the same with the titan and shes puttin down 425 rwhp with the charger. im am a member of titantalk...same name there..the neon was an 03......you guys can rest assured im telling you the truth. im a very respected member over at titantalk and will surely prove myself here.....
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lol i was hoping...
Hughes412 said:lol I really was just playing. I was going to post right after that one but then I had to answer the phone.
got_titan said:i bought the car straight off the truck from japan...lol it had 2 miles on it....from dealer prep....
Nice truck by the way.
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Oops, sorry! Thought I read something about 150 miles on it.
got_titan said:i bought the car straight off the truck from japan...lol it had 2 miles on it....from dealer prep....
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Donas64 said:Thats what I've been thinking. It seems that while the MS3 is leaps and bounds above the SRT-4 quality wise, the SRT-4 seems like it's still got bragging rights down the strip.
I'd hypothesize the same thing, but the MS3 looks to be able to do SOOOOO much more than be some knuckle-dragging drag-racer.
Drag racing is t3h sux and requires zero actual driving skill. Even in NASCAR, they turn left on occasion...
Well when it is that close in numbers, the race is going to be neck and neck, just like he said, and it comes down to driver skill.Hughes412 said:I'm not understanding this statement. He said he pulled on the srt4. Yet the srt4 is faster.
Then you reinforce my point by posting the actual test numbers to back me up?
Okay so this one race with two different drivers the MS3 wins, but what about him driving the SRT-4, maybe he would have pulled on him in that car.
What here don't you understand?
That's the part. You didn't say that before. But I agree with you now.Knox Joe said:Well when it is that close in numbers, the race is going to be neck and neck, just like he said, and it comes down to driver skill.
Then you reinforce my point by posting the actual test numbers to back me up?
Okay so this one race with two different drivers the MS3 wins, but what about him driving the SRT-4, maybe he would have pulled on him in that car.
What here don't you understand?
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