Has the MS3 dethroned SRT4?

Stock for stock the MS3 V SRT4 will be close but the 3 should win in a streight line because of the hp. But with the extra weight the SRT has the advantage in the turns. I wont get into the IF if was modded yet. The hiboost 3s are running 400 to 500 hp and we already know the srt can also. I also liked the looks of the srt4. The 3 looks good too but but it isn't all that.


I just wished they would put a 300hp RX8, then I would be excited.
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
stock for stock in a quarter mile race i think the neon srt4 would have the advantage
They both get about the same whp in 1st and 2nd gears, but then the torq limiter goes away for the rest of the gears so more whp and torq. I would think it's like a NOS shot at the end of the 1/4.
 
Hughes412 said:
Stock for stock the MS3 V SRT4 will be close but the 3 should win in a streight line because of the hp. But with the extra weight the SRT has the advantage in the turns. I wont get into the IF if was modded yet. The hiboost 3s are running 400 to 500 hp and we already know the srt can also. I also liked the looks of the srt4. The 3 looks good too but but it isn't all that.


I just wished they would put a 300hp RX8, then I would be excited.


If the SRT-4 can outhandle an MS3 stock then the MS3 must have some sucky handling.

Also a 300 hp RX8 would quickly rocket to to near the top of my "cars to own before I die" list.
 
Donas64 said:
when the caliber is actually OUT!
dude the ms3 is barely "out". yeah so the magazines have gotten to review them and yeah there are a few dealers out there that have JUST began to trickle them in over the past few days but i woudln't call that out. s***, i cant go to any dealer in houston, the 4th largest city in the US and test drive one. who knows, perhaps next week all the ms3 motors will blow and all the anticipation will be for nothing. just wait and see.
 
MP3Architect said:
dude the ms3 is barely "out". yeah so the magazines have gotten to review them and yeah there are a few dealers out there that have JUST began to trickle them in over the past few days but i woudln't call that out. s***, i cant go to any dealer in houston, the 4th largest city in the US and test drive one. who knows, perhaps next week all the ms3 motors will blow and all the anticipation will be for nothing. just wait and see.

I sat in one and ogled for a few minutes at a random small town in Ontario the other day lol. Mazda = no love for the states.
 
MP3Architect said:
dude the ms3 is barely "out". yeah so the magazines have gotten to review them and yeah there are a few dealers out there that have JUST began to trickle them in over the past few days but i woudln't call that out. s***, i cant go to any dealer in houston, the 4th largest city in the US and test drive one. who knows, perhaps next week all the ms3 motors will blow and all the anticipation will be for nothing. just wait and see.

The car is out. Just not in the states. People have sat in them, taken test drives and magazines have flogged them. I know it's a little early but it's not like it's a prototype that people have not gotten to drive yet. I'm just doing some speculating.
 
Donas64 said:
The car is out. Just not in the states. People have sat in them, taken test drives and magazines have flogged them. I know it's a little early but it's not like it's a prototype that people have not gotten to drive yet. I'm just doing some speculating.
oh. sorry. canada just doesn't really exist to me and my friends down here in texas. we always think of it as just a bunch of ice waiting to be taken over by americans with pitch forks! (enguard) j/k buddy.
 
MP3Architect said:
oh. sorry. canada just doesn't really exist to me and my friends down here in texas. we always think of it as just a bunch of ice waiting to be taken over by americans with pitch forks! (enguard) j/k buddy.

No offense taken. I live in VA!!!:)
 
MP3Architect said:
oh. sorry. canada just doesn't really exist to me and my friends down here in texas. we always think of it as just a bunch of ice waiting to be taken over by americans with pitch forks! (enguard) j/k buddy.
I really hope america never takes over canada, it would sully the whole nation.

*I heart Canada (canada)*
 
Well, I would have to say that this debate should wait until we get some owners on the forums here. Or when we actually see a vid of them racing each other, because lets face it; its going to happen!
 
kamon8404 said:
Well, I would have to say that this debate should wait until we get some owners on the forums here. Or when we actually see a vid of them racing each other, because lets face it; its going to happen!

I'm eagerly awaiting that!!!(glare)
 
Donas64 said:
With the arrival of all the shiny new MS3's to dealers, has the Neon SRT 4 been officially dethroned as the king of the pocket rocket hill? Or is it still to early to call a TKO?

Better Perfomance = not quite sure about this one yet
Better Handling = Advantage MS3
Better After market = too early to tell
Better interior = TKO MS3
Tunder Desireability = Too early to tell.
I think it's a fair thing to say that if the MSP got as much attention as it did(for being second best pocket-rocket car of it's day), the MS3 will get at least as much.
 
sephiroth said:
I think it's a fair thing to say that if the MSP got as much attention as it did(for being second best pocket-rocket car of it's day), the MS3 will get at least as much.
yeah but the neon srt4 still had FAR much attention
 
I test drove a MS3 in Toronto a few weeks ago actually.
Very nice car.
Compared to the current MSP I own, it's definitely an upgrade. The only thing the MSP has over the MS3 is the tighter handling due to the lighter weight. Mind you, my MSP got stickier tires though. With the same tires on both, I would think the MS3 will be very close to the MSP in handling.

I'd trade the MSP in for the added powah and the added refinement though, not to mention the cargo space.
 
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atleast kids won't flip them from their ass end's beign too high with alot of horse powa.
 
arkitek said:
I test drove a MS3 in Toronto a few weeks ago actually.
Very nice car.
Compared to the current MSP I own, it's definitely an upgrade. The only thing the MSP has over the MS3 is the tighter handling due to the lighter weight. Mind you, my MSP got stickier tires though. With the same tires on both, I would think the MS3 will be very close to the MSP in handling.

I'd trade the MSP in for the added powah and the added refinement though, not to mention the cargo space.


What mods do you have?
 
my son has an srt4, and i have to say that i am not very impressed with its handles. i would confidently say that my 3s handles better than it, granted it has mods now, when it was stock i am confident that it handled better. imo the ms3 will be even more of a sleep with that torque limiter because once we get to third, well shoot ahead of a lot of cars.
 
kamon8404 said:
What mods do you have?

SMIC, Exhaust, 9psi, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3

The MS3 stock tires aren't as good as the MSP stock tires I don't think. But that's easily fixed of course. :)
 

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