Hahn '08 Cobalt SS Turbo 13.2 @ 104

Robin, what your looking at was a project Hahn did on an older Cobalt for Chevy (for the Sema show). His new one, the '08 turbo SS he picked up a couple Friday's ago.

I live in a Chicago suburb, lots of cars all over the place, and I have never seen 1 SRT Caliber on the road. Dealer has 1 Silver one sitting outside that apparently they cant sell cause its been there for over a month.
 
who cares about chevy... where is toyotas ******* sports car?!

there just about the only car manufacturer without a sports car in their catalog.

Toyota seems incapable of building a competent sport compact. They got rid of the supra because they priced themselves right out of the segment, then they released the celica and couldn't get that right. Finally they put out a whole new brand scion to cater to the youth market, but all those are woefully underpowered. The corolla S is a plastic clad joke. Eliminated the mr2, and finally now they are pairing up with subaru on an as yet un named shared platform sport compact.
 
I've seen one CSRT4 in my neighborhood , maybe one on the highway as well. I've seen some of the 06 SS S/C around. I actually don't mind the coupe's looks looks clean from most angles (minus the huge wing). The caliber needs a couple of changes to be better. 1) an LSD 2) 18 inch wheels instead 19's 3)some suspension adjustments. If they made these changes the car might be brilliant to drive. (cheap interior aside).
 
I've seen one CSRT4 in my neighborhood , maybe one on the highway as well. I've seen some of the 06 SS S/C around. I actually don't mind the coupe's looks looks clean from most angles (minus the huge wing). The caliber needs a couple of changes to be better. 1) an LSD 2) 18 inch wheels instead 19's 3)some suspension adjustments. If they made these changes the car might be brilliant to drive. (cheap interior aside).

In regards to the CSRT4, I'm sure you could get a load off the price off of one of those and use the rest of the money you saved for after market stuff you mentioned. And yeah I agree with a few changes it would most likely be a decent performer. The heavy ass 19's would be the first thing to go along with suspension upgrades if I had one. So basically if you can get about 3-4k off MSRP and use that money for upgraded parts then you just might have a winner. However, you’d still be driving around one of the ugliest vehicles around, not that the speed3 is the most gorgeous thing.
 
I'm not sure you could go smaller than an 18 on those. They have BIG brakes. Not so much for stopping....but for their odd approach to limited slip .
 
The car has a reflash using the BSR PPC tuner (which is like the Cobb AP). With the reflash it dyno'd 289 whp. I dont know where 22 psi came from but nowhere is psi mentioned, nor is it quoted on Hahn's site. For a reflash and catback that is DAMN impressive. Their plan is high 11's on street radials. Although I'm not a fan of the car itself, my MS3 is more practical for me, it is pretty badass. Highest mph of that night was 105. The launch control is greatly helping with lower e.t.'s. 60' ft on the 13.2 run was 2.0 on stock radials. Remember, having a pioneer in turbocharging like Bill Hahn himself taking on a new DI platform is exciting for everyone. Products and technology developed on this platform will only help anyone running a DI vehicle.
I agree with with you sir, I think it is called the Hahn Effect!
 
Toyota seems incapable of building a competent sport compact. They got rid of the supra because they priced themselves right out of the segment, then they released the celica and couldn't get that right. Finally they put out a whole new brand scion to cater to the youth market, but all those are woefully underpowered. The corolla S is a plastic clad joke. Eliminated the mr2, and finally now they are pairing up with subaru on an as yet un named shared platform sport compact.

all they need to do is remake the mr2 and throw the 2zz motor in it. sell it for 25k and you have a monster on your hands.

it actually bothers me that they didn't do that. i guess their idea was to compete with the miata. but if they would release a lightweight roadster with 180hp, at 25k, they'd be competing with the mazda miata and the honda s2k.

the supra was an amazing machine but your right, they were just overpriced. i think the scion tC motor is a good start if you wanna slap some boost on it. and i think the 2zz is a great motor to slap in something light. just look at the lotus elise.
 
all they need to do is remake the mr2 and throw the 2zz motor in it. sell it for 25k and you have a monster on your hands.

it actually bothers me that they didn't do that. i guess their idea was to compete with the miata. but if they would release a lightweight roadster with 180hp, at 25k, they'd be competing with the mazda miata and the honda s2k.

the supra was an amazing machine but your right, they were just overpriced. i think the scion tC motor is a good start if you wanna slap some boost on it. and i think the 2zz is a great motor to slap in something light. just look at the lotus elise.

Well the Scion TC comes with an optional SC but even then it wasn't that great as a Civic SI would hang with one. Put maybe bolting on a turbo charger instead would yield better results... Yeah the lotus is great with the Toyota motor but let’s remember that think is a whopping 1700lbs or something crazy like that - doesn't take an awful amount of power to move something so tiny. It's a damn go cart basically

As far as competing with a Honda s2000 with something that's producing 180hp, that thing better be really lite! The s2000 produces 237hp and makes damn good use of it. The CR version runs the in 13.7 at 101mph with the same motor weighing about 100lbs less I believe. Even the base model s2000 runs 13.9-14.1 @ 100 these things aren’t exactly slow contrary to popular belief plus they handle great
 
there times are only going to get lower. there is something to be said about chevy and there inhouse performance outfits and bins.
 
i think the scion tC motor is a good start if you wanna slap some boost on it. and i think the 2zz is a great motor to slap in something light. just look at the lotus elise.

That toyota engine is the primary reason I am not driving an elise. Sourcing a toyota engine is unforgivable offense on lotus' part. Shame on them for copping out and putting a mass market turd in the engine bay.......
 
Well the Scion TC comes with an optional SC but even then it wasn't that great as a Civic SI would hang with one. Put maybe bolting on a turbo charger instead would yield better results... Yeah the lotus is great with the Toyota motor but let’s remember that think is a whopping 1700lbs or something crazy like that - doesn't take an awful amount of power to move something so tiny. It's a damn go cart basically

As far as competing with a Honda s2000 with something that's producing 180hp, that thing better be really lite! The s2000 produces 237hp and makes damn good use of it. The CR version runs the in 13.7 at 101mph with the same motor weighing about 100lbs less I believe. Even the base model s2000 runs 13.9-14.1 @ 100 these things aren’t exactly slow contrary to popular belief plus they handle great

yeah. my last car was a tC and i liked it a lot. it was cheap, cool and had decent power. these cars love boost, trust me... haha, i've raced boosted ones. the only problem with the trd supercharger is that its setup for like 7psi in order to keep the warranty. they can make a bit more power though.

lotus elise's run low 13's stock and an mr2 spyder with a 2zz swap does high 13's and handles just as well, if not better than an s2k. if toyota would have just used that motor in the first place, they would have killed.

That toyota engine is the primary reason I am not driving an elise. Sourcing a toyota engine is unforgivable offense on lotus' part. Shame on them for copping out and putting a mass market turd in the engine bay.......

first off, it's a great motor. second off, it wasn't engineered by toyota. it's a yamaha motor. if anything, lotus having chosen the 2zz must mean it's a great motor.

pontiac also sourced the same yamaha motor for their pontiac vibe GT.
 
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