For those with MPINicks T25 Upgrade..

[BlkZoomZoom]

all of you guys need to dyno your car anr then we will race-the main-and your stock car w/ an MPI tuner will only create about 176whp at the wheels you stupid aasss-also how does an exhaust make your engine create more horsepower????how does a FMIC or an air intake create more horsepower?????or yet how does a shiny shifter or stereo make your car go faster??? you are all stupid....the is some periods for the spellchecker guy.........somemore or is it some more>>>>>....you engine is only built and designed to create hp raising boost or focing induction-will gain hp-but the block is only going to create so much. so your stock whp are all a bunch of small dick lies-and why cant you guys beat an sti-the only have 330 engine hp-think how muh hp you lose through awd-and yet you cant beat one-and you have 60 more hp
kcuf focus-kcuf bigg tim-and kcuf apocman-mpi dickryders

Why I am responding to this I don't know.


I have beaten quite a few Sti's, Evo's, Srt-4's, Corvettes,Mustangs, etc. A few other members on here have witnessed it. Never said I didn't up the boost or touch the exhaust though. If you are friends with Focus, I suggest you go to him for advice on tuning, he seems to be pretty sharp.

 

[igdrasil]

let me remind him... 605whp!

And this is not the best run.

http://home.coqui.net/igdrasil/gallery/turbo/cp323a.wmv

 

[Moeed]

thanks for shitting on this thread Focusdestroyer. I leave you with these pics:

 

[apocman]

OMG!!! I'm so scared he e-yelled at me!!! Boo-Hoo!!!! I need to run and hide...

Please, sell your car! please, please...

your such an ass-hat, all we need is people thinking we all have an IQ of 10...

I can see it now your at the track or local hangout, pull up in your car looking and acting like your the be'all know'all of car tuning...

Stating s*** like this!!!! Oh wait, of course that is if you have time to chit'chat while tending to your only source of making money= (blowjob)

all of you guys need to dyno your car anr then we will race-the main-and your stock car w/ an MPI tuner will only create about 176whp at the wheels you stupid aasss-also how does an exhaust make your engine create more horsepower????how does a FMIC or an air intake create more horsepower?????or yet how does a shiny shifter or stereo make your car go faster??? you are all stupid....the is some periods for the spellchecker guy.........somemore or is it some more>>>>>....you engine is only built and designed to create hp raising boost or focing induction-will gain hp-but the block is only going to create so much. so your stock whp are all a bunch of small dick lies-and why cant you guys beat an sti-the only have 330 engine hp-think how muh hp you lose through awd-and yet you cant beat one-and you have 60 more hp
kcuf focus-kcuf bigg tim-and kcuf apocman-mpi dickryders

 

[jeffmsp]

and why cant you guys beat an sti-the only have 330 engine hp-think how muh hp you lose through awd-and yet you cant beat one-and you have 60 more hp
kcuf focus-kcuf bigg tim-and kcuf apocman-mpi dickryders

Im beating STIs from a roll at 10psi of boost on the stock turbo and on the stock motor. Think about what 14 would do..

 

[Mutmatt]

let me remind him... 605whp!

And this is not the best run.

http://home.coqui.net/igdrasil/gallery/turbo/cp323a.wmv

wow i love that engine bay! lol and who cares about the guy that comes to a place that is supposed to be all about helping eachother he can go (blowjob) for all i care! back on topic!

so did we come to the consensis that the t25rs upg is to much to fast to keep the wheels on the ground and the t28 is the way to go to get big strong consistant power (that is on a built motor)

 

[igdrasil]

a t28 will do better, the stock turbine wheel and housing is not good for 300+whp

 

[KzA]

thanks for shitting on this thread Focusdestroyer. I leave you with these pics:

Damn that is sexy...Who made that DP?

 

[Moeed]

Damn that is sexy...Who made that DP?

That d/p was made by corksport. It was real tough getting that thing to bolt to the turbo. The nut on the inside of the bend had to be tightened first. the last pic however is the port job that nick does on the calloway S-pipe on the msp.

 

[low_psi]

Moeed, PM me pictures of the backside of the turbo if you have them, I want to see the new wastegate before I order one.

 

[Moeed]

Marc, sorry dont have any pics of the wastegate. Didnt even think about it. It looked almost identical to the stock one, minus the adjustment nut and rod. I'll ask Adam how it is holding boost.

 

[low_psi]

Cool thanks. I didn't think the replacements ATP sells came with adjustments but I assume there weren't any issues getting it to fit properly. My buddy has a spare WG act from his t28r laying around, but I'm too lazy to dig it up since I'm pretty sure it won't fit. The arm has a kink in it

 

[wicked]

How is it piece of mind if you don't own the turbo?

Your right though, you know, of the what? 5+thousand Msp's we have had maybe 5-10 turbo failures that didn't relate to the wastegate. Everyone should go out and buy a GT28rs to make Wicked feel better about buying a turbo that has shown less potential than the one in question.

wasn't really refering to piece of mind for myself,more for others.

you seem to not be understanding me on this topic here BLKZOOM,I am a fan of what nick is offering,and think it is a awsome alternative to the GT28RS,but the fact remains,the GT28RS is more capable of holding much better efficientcy at higher boost levels.
also will help keep traction better do to it's tendecy to spool a little slower,and reach take longer in the RPM range to get to full boost.


think about it,you have almaost the same turbo,exept the GT28RS has a larger compressor housing,aswell as inlet,and charge outlet.
allowing the same turbine wheel to flow a higher amount,and less revolutions.

 

[KzA]

this is meant as a cheaper alternative for power adding than the gt28rs..this is like 600 maximum, while the gt28rs is friggen 1200 plus however insance amount of time it takes to get one....this is one hell of an UPGRADE to the stock Msp..not a replacement

 

[Moeed]

think about it,you have almaost the same turbo,exept the GT28RS has a larger compressor housing,aswell as inlet,and charge outlet.
allowing the same turbine wheel to flow a higher amount,and less revolutions.

The turbo is severly treated by Nick. Lots of porting on the turbine exhaust port, as well as the inlet and outlet on the compressor side. The turbo is heavily reworked. It would make no sense to put the 28 guts in with out no treatment to the housing of the turbo, but Nick addresses that with all the port work that is done.

 

[igdrasil]

The turbo is severly treated by Nick. Lots of porting on the turbine exhaust port, as well as the inlet and outlet on the compressor side. The turbo is heavily reworked. It would make no sense to put the 28 guts in with out no treatment to the housing of the turbo, but Nick addresses that with all the port work that is done.

why not just fit a t28?

 

[RyanJayG]

The turbo is severly treated by Nick. Lots of porting on the turbine exhaust port, as well as the inlet and outlet on the compressor side. The turbo is heavily reworked. It would make no sense to put the 28 guts in with out no treatment to the housing of the turbo, but Nick addresses that with all the port work that is done.

A) I thought the stage I (which is what I thought we were talking about) only treated the compressor

B) I thought Nick trimmed down the inductor to make it fit in lieu of porting the inside of the housing

maybe someone who knows could correct me, but this is what I always understood it to be

 

[Moeed]

why not just fit a t28?

Im working with what i got

A) I thought the stage I (which is what I thought we were talking about) only treated the compressor

B) I thought Nick trimmed down the inductor to make it fit in lieu of porting the inside of the housing

maybe someone who knows could correct me, but this is what I always understood it to be

Ill double check for ya Ryan.

 

[jeffmsp]

has anyone tried mating the T28 compressor housing and turbine from a dsm or SR20DET to the T25R?

 

[MPNick]

a t28 will do better, the stock turbine wheel and housing is not good for 300+whp

Not true,Dean made over 310whp and 338 torque with only 15psi and a small intercooler.

It will make more then 330 whp and 360 torque. Anyone other then Dean making 338 torque @15psi on this forum?