Flat Screen TV Review Website....
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the only thing I can see that you might want to think about is my tv is big but the HD signal is only 720pwhere as the hitachi plasma you posted is 1080i so it will have a higher HD picture but mine looks ******* killer as it is, as you saw for yourself
the only thing I can see that you might want to think about is my tv is big but the HD signal is only 720pwhere as the hitachi plasma you posted is 1080i so it will have a higher HD picture but mine looks ******* killer as it is, as you saw for yourself
Rogue said:
pros and cons of Plasma vs LCD Projection?
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/159297/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/159297/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
i'd definitely go for 1080i. i personally would stay away from lcd projection and dlp, especially if you're gonna put a lot of mileage on your tv. i used to work constantly with dlp projectors in a previous job concerned with control room solutions, and maintaining them and their bulbs racked in more money than setting them up and selling them. the worst project was NASDAQ in times square. if you've ever walked by or seen pictures, they have this 90 cube wall of 45" screens that display stock info (used by CNN). changing the bulbs on those and cleaning them wasn't fun! not that you'd ever experience that by buying a dlp tv, but a lamp does cost roughly 200-300 bucks.
Keep a few things in mind. First, HDTV has 2 forms, 1920x1080i and 1280x720P. We are not going to get 1080P which is true HD. Also 1080i really doesn't exist as a displays resolution as the set either has 1080 pixel rows or it does not.
That said, NO plasma screen produced today that is 42" or less is an HD of either type. They are almost all 1024x768 panels meening they are a stretched XGA machine.
Plasma's largest down fall is the glare. Its bad, sometimes REALLY bad. If you are considering placing a TV facing an open window or a light, then plasma may be a problem.
LCD and DLP tvs are going to need a $350 lamp swap every 2-3 years. The nice part is that unlike plasma which dims over time, once the bulb is swapped, the TV is back to its original brightness. The major pain to me about projection TVs is the wait time for them to warm up. Its usualy 20 seconds or so. being only 12" or less thick, they are easy to place.
For DLP projection TV's, technicly they are not really ever HD becuase only one color is on the screen and any moment. Of coarse this is also happening so fast most no one can detect it. I am not sure wether DLp has ever reached 1080p like LCD sets have. I have yet to see the DPL projector I liked so I guess I can't reccomend them.
LCD panel tvs have some major advantages, 1st is that they can have as high a resolution as the projection TVs. Also they dont need bulb raplacments and they are VERY lite compared to a plasma screen. There down side is that LCD just doesn't have the fluidness of a plasma or of a CRT. Simply put, pixilation is easy to detect in rapid motion scenes. For the 42" size, LCDs are still price compeditive with plasma, after that however, the costs favor plasma heavily for 50-65" sets.
In all, its completely TV by TV. There is no hard and fast rule as there are alot of other electronics in sets then just the light source. You should check them all out and see which you like the best.
At home i prefer plasma, and an angled wall bracket can help with the glare. But for my company (www.singlesourcegroup.com) where I am an audio/visual integrator, I almost always use LCDs since most of the displays are running computer graphics or atleast have to operate in moderate to high light environments where no one ever took the glare off of a display into account when laying out the lighting plan.
That said, NO plasma screen produced today that is 42" or less is an HD of either type. They are almost all 1024x768 panels meening they are a stretched XGA machine.
Plasma's largest down fall is the glare. Its bad, sometimes REALLY bad. If you are considering placing a TV facing an open window or a light, then plasma may be a problem.
LCD and DLP tvs are going to need a $350 lamp swap every 2-3 years. The nice part is that unlike plasma which dims over time, once the bulb is swapped, the TV is back to its original brightness. The major pain to me about projection TVs is the wait time for them to warm up. Its usualy 20 seconds or so. being only 12" or less thick, they are easy to place.
For DLP projection TV's, technicly they are not really ever HD becuase only one color is on the screen and any moment. Of coarse this is also happening so fast most no one can detect it. I am not sure wether DLp has ever reached 1080p like LCD sets have. I have yet to see the DPL projector I liked so I guess I can't reccomend them.
LCD panel tvs have some major advantages, 1st is that they can have as high a resolution as the projection TVs. Also they dont need bulb raplacments and they are VERY lite compared to a plasma screen. There down side is that LCD just doesn't have the fluidness of a plasma or of a CRT. Simply put, pixilation is easy to detect in rapid motion scenes. For the 42" size, LCDs are still price compeditive with plasma, after that however, the costs favor plasma heavily for 50-65" sets.
In all, its completely TV by TV. There is no hard and fast rule as there are alot of other electronics in sets then just the light source. You should check them all out and see which you like the best.
At home i prefer plasma, and an angled wall bracket can help with the glare. But for my company (www.singlesourcegroup.com) where I am an audio/visual integrator, I almost always use LCDs since most of the displays are running computer graphics or atleast have to operate in moderate to high light environments where no one ever took the glare off of a display into account when laying out the lighting plan.
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once again, 1sty, you're always giving me the info I need. 
thank you!! +rep if i could 
when it comes to swapping bulbs, when do you know it's time? Does the picture just get dim or go completely out? Is it something you can DIY or do you have to get it serviced by someone else?
thank you!! +rep if i could when it comes to swapping bulbs, when do you know it's time? Does the picture just get dim or go completely out? Is it something you can DIY or do you have to get it serviced by someone else?
Newer age bulbs (atleast in projectors) get to about 80% brightness before its time for a swap per there life estimate. They don't always blow out though so sometimes i find them producing almost no light but they keep going. Eventualy they will completely burn out. Its nice ot have a back up for when it does but be careful becuase bulbs do have a shelf life.
Oh, and here is a site for your reading pleasure
http://www.avsforum.com/
Oh, and here is a site for your reading pleasure
http://www.avsforum.com/
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Prices are down on all the new stuff , panasonic is a good brand . I looked for smart sales people to help , my best luck was circuit city and sound advice (tweeters). Several of them had excellent knowledge about the new tech. Good LuckRogue said:
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Look at the 50" SXRD ... we have the 60 and couldnt be happier
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Captain KRM P5 said:
"It's the mirrors"
Did you hit the lotto Ken? New car, new TV, new Miller. I have to swing by...
I love my Sony LCD.
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Rogue said:
good luck, i have been trying to sell my $4000 40" Mitsubishi for $500 for a while now, but nobody seems to want a 300 pound tv anymore
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lol crazy...
my 52" LCD projection weighs less than my 25" tube tv lol
my 52" LCD projection weighs less than my 25" tube tv lol
NoRotor said:good luck, i have been trying to sell my $4000 40" Mitsubishi for $500 for a while now, but nobody seems to want a 300 pound tv anymore
Captain KRM P5 said:
I was considering getting this exact TV, except I hate the blotchs that sometimes show up between pictures and I wasn't sure how bright the picture would be. The price for DLPs are great, so I was gonna jump to a 51". It's going in my basement, but it looks really dull and poor in the store, probably because there is too much light. My next 2 choices are the Sony Bravia 40" 1080p and the Samsung 40" 1080p, both LCDs. I'm not interested in a Plasma at all. When that new PS3 comes out, I'll probably become a big gamer again, and I don't want to risk putting that much energy through a gas powered television.
How does your XBOX360 look on your DLP? Can you see detail with a DLP?
Detail is a function of the pixel count, not really drive technology so LCD of either variety, plasma, or DLP can all be equally detailed. What there is between them is the limitations of the technology. So for plasma, you cant have a true HD on a 42". Although even the HD TV we will get is only like 400p not 720. DLP has the limitation of not being able to show the entire picture at once and the LCD isn't typicly good at black levels and contrast becuase of it. The other side of that is that a 42" plasma can have the electronics in it good enough that you will never notice and a new one will not burn with anything short of intention to burn it. DLP is going so damn fast you shoul dnot be able to detect its weakness if the set is any good. Lastly companies like Sony are betting the farm on LCD so the black levels got ALOT better in recent years and will continue to do so. At this point I see the digital stream is unable to give the plasma or LCD all of the greys it can actualy handle. Analog is still the best in every friggen way though in my book.
Even with HD, if the pitcures people looked at 30 years ago on 35mm film slides, looked like even HD and computer graphics do know, they would call in a technician to fix the machine. Being that 35mm is equivalent to 5300 x 4000 resolution. HD what?
The reality is that digital is about convieniece not a better medium. So in short, HDTV-sucks, Ipods-suck, Digital cameras-suck. We had it better before (although not really for HDTV as analog TV was very low resolution even though it was analog)
I like to cause problems
Even with HD, if the pitcures people looked at 30 years ago on 35mm film slides, looked like even HD and computer graphics do know, they would call in a technician to fix the machine. Being that 35mm is equivalent to 5300 x 4000 resolution. HD what?
The reality is that digital is about convieniece not a better medium. So in short, HDTV-sucks, Ipods-suck, Digital cameras-suck. We had it better before (although not really for HDTV as analog TV was very low resolution even though it was analog)
I like to cause problems
So are the rumors about HDMI cables true? Retailers and networks are sending out the image that HDMI cables are definitely more superior than component cables. In a comparison, I've found them to be about the same in quality and in some cases, the component cables (high priced ones), out did high end HDMI cables. The rumor is HDMI cables are being pushed by networkers for copyright reason. With HDMI cables, you can not record in HD. The HDMI cable restricts HD signals when you record.
well, made a purchase Friday night:
Sony 50 LCD Projection HDTV (KDF-50E2000)
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDF_50E2000/4505-6482_7-31789644.html
Got a really good deal on it: $1248 + tax. That's lower than the price advertised online. I was totally stoked. I'm really happy with my purchase I went ahead and got the 4 year protection plan from Circuit City. We had some overly active dogs, and if one knocks the TV over, it'll be covered. It also covers the lamp replacement.
EDIT: Added a picture of the TV on the table.
Sony 50 LCD Projection HDTV (KDF-50E2000)
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDF_50E2000/4505-6482_7-31789644.html
Got a really good deal on it: $1248 + tax. That's lower than the price advertised online. I was totally stoked. I'm really happy with my purchase
I went ahead and got the 4 year protection plan from Circuit City. We had some overly active dogs, and if one knocks the TV over, it'll be covered. It also covers the lamp replacement.EDIT: Added a picture of the TV on the table.
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I just went through this nonsense myself. I already have a DLP front projector, so I didn't want another set that I'd have to replace bulbs with.
I tried, REALLy tried to like LCD. Took a few home, high end Samsungs. One word...CRAP. Washed out colors,bad contrast and bad blacks, not enough colors and shades of grey = looked like crap with TV. I had gone from a Sony CRT to this and honestly wanted my Sony back even if it did take up half my living room.
So I did my last swap with a Panasonic plasma. Took 20 seconds to know that I was in love. Whether it is standard def, High def, DVD or gaming on xbox or 360, this thing looks amazing all of the time. The best thing thing with the panny is that even with all of the brightness/picture/color settings on zero, it still looks great. No need to turn on torch mode to see detail. Unlike the sammies where I had things turned up to 95 out of 100 just to see something.
I tried, REALLy tried to like LCD. Took a few home, high end Samsungs. One word...CRAP. Washed out colors,bad contrast and bad blacks, not enough colors and shades of grey = looked like crap with TV. I had gone from a Sony CRT to this and honestly wanted my Sony back even if it did take up half my living room.
So I did my last swap with a Panasonic plasma. Took 20 seconds to know that I was in love. Whether it is standard def, High def, DVD or gaming on xbox or 360, this thing looks amazing all of the time. The best thing thing with the panny is that even with all of the brightness/picture/color settings on zero, it still looks great. No need to turn on torch mode to see detail. Unlike the sammies where I had things turned up to 95 out of 100 just to see something.
Newf said:
IMO, you should have went with the Sony LCD and not Samsung LCD. But be careful not to overplay your xbox or 360 on your Plasma.
I'm glad you like your new Panasonic
. Everyone person that I hear with one, loves it.
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