electric supercharger

[TampaSport20]

You just don't get it do you. Definitely for one thing I have realized that you do not read all the posts inside the thread before posting because I have already answered your response.

Now one i know you have no clue what an amp is. Two you have never seen a furnace blower and ducting inside a house. And finally three nobody in this entire thread so far has any clue how a converter/inverter/transformer works. Because you have proved it to me by your uneducated posts right up there. It doesn't matter to me if you and your sidekick both think you are correct.

I am not going to explain using theory of physics because it is very apparent to me that you slept through high school if you even went to it. What was a good discussion on something that does have potential in theory has turned into an extremely unschooled argument.

Now to conclude I would like you all to take a good look at this link and understand that what you are trying to say is impossible actually exists.

READ CAREFULLY THAT IS A 3000w TRANSFORMER TO HOOK UP APPLIANCES TO YOUR CAR. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE ALTERNATORS, YOU DO NOT NEED MORE BATTERIES.

I am now unsubscribing because your very weak responses are giving me a headache. You may continue saying whatever you like the fact is 25A (yes that is what I said many posts back) is more then enough to push any electric blower, stop thinking about traditional superchargers. The goal is to get air into the intake using electricity by any means.

Have a nice day gentlemen !

do just a LITTLE research on how many amps the ESC-400 draws, which is the typical blower Thomas Knight's electric supercharger kits use....it is WELL over 25 amps....it will drain 4-5 high output batteries completely in less than a minute....check what the cranking amps are on a typical high output battery usually in the 700-900 range...4 of them would be between 2800-3600 amps....think a simple power inverter can make that kind of current ????

 

[cheapmiata1600]

READ CAREFULLY THAT IS A 3000w TRANSFORMER TO HOOK UP APPLIANCES TO YOUR CAR. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE ALTERNATORS, YOU DO NOT NEED MORE BATTERIES.

How long do you think the stock electrical wiring is going to hold up to a 3000w load?

As a plus, since your magic box makes all these watts without any proportional increase in amps or volts, you probably don't need to hook it up to any sort of power source since it just pulls a bunch of power out of the air.

To make 3000w on a 12v system you'll need to draw about 250 amps.

The blower of a furnace in a fairly large house pushes about 450 PSI

A furnace blower may move 450 square inches of air over some period of time (minutes/seconds?), but I assure you that your home HVAC system is not operating at 450 psi. A furnace blower may be able to create ~5 pounds of pressure, if that. A furnace blower is a high volume pump, not high pressure.

Your lack of understanding of even the most basic rules of electricity is astonishing. At least your agruments are humerous to read...


Electric superchargers simply don't make any sense in a modern automobile. There are many tried and true solutions for your power problem, you don't need to re-invent the wheel here.

 

[ducktape]

just look at those fans, the 120mm one can push 18 pound of trust, and the batteries need r small and lightweight cause they go on rc plane, and i bet they can fly with it for a good constant 15 min.. plus it revs at 40000 rpm! all carbon fiber,,, those r great pieces, for 300$ you add the tipycal waste gate and bov and fuel management and youre good to go, i8 bet a project like this could cost about 1000$ and give like 3-4psi boost , if it can throw a good 50 hp then it would sell for ~1000$

http://www.shredair.com/

 

[anarchistchiken]

Yeah dude, well tell ya what, why dont you go and build one and sell it for ~$1000? Until then, just trust that people more intelligent than you have already looked at the possibility of doing this and so far no one has had good results, unless you count TKT, and their results are questionable at best.

 

[MP5cd]

hairdryer

 

[altspace]

Just a thought here. Would'nt anything inside an intake tube be blocking airflow when not in use?

 

[ducktape]

Yeah dude, well tell ya what, why dont you go and build one and sell it for ~$1000? Until then, just trust that people more intelligent than you have already looked at the possibility of doing this and so far no one has had good results, unless you count TKT, and their results are questionable at best.

there is no need to be mean dude...

 

[ducktape]

Yeah dude, well tell ya what, why dont you go and build one and sell it for ~$1000? Until then, just trust that people more intelligent than you have already looked at the possibility of doing this and so far no one has had good results, unless you count TKT, and their results are questionable at best.

there is no need to be mean dude...

 

[noclue119]

I can also i can get a heat exchanger. use the exhaust to boil water, and use the steam power to drive a turbine. a few thing to think of 1 all the extra weight u'd be lugging around.

but more importantly

The reason why this thing is not efficent is because when u convert energy from one form to another it loses part of it due to the process.

basically what u are doing is
engine -> alternator -> battery -> electric supercharger -> intake
where as a turbo/superchager
engine -> exhuast -> intake

compare 5 steps to 3 and u have the idea of where all your engery is going.

 

[anarchistchiken]

there is no need to be mean dude...

I'm not being mean, I'm just sick of this damn argument.

 

[CRZbrussian]

leafblower ftw!

hairdryer

 

[ducktape]

me and my friend just installed a ducted dfan in his 98 civic d16's short ram (106hp) we we clearly see a difference in the acceleration, most visible in the lower and mid rpm range. the fan we built is one from a RC airplane, we kept the duct and the motor (cobalt 400) and put in a more solid impeller than the one included. the fan rev at 26000 rpm, it really moves air.

anyway, it probably does not give much boost, but the thottle response is greatly improve. the engine now doent have any restriction in the intake.

the main thing left to do is to tune the air fuel ratio, so we can get the reliability we are looking for. i am not an idots, and this truly work.. of course this is not the hiboost turbo kit, but for about 50$ this is way more powerful than an aem cold air intake...


ill put in some pic, but i dont think we will have money for dyno sessions since were broke.

 

[kura808]

hehe its really interesting how it works. i was reading an article about it in a popular science magazine. xD

 

[ducktape]

dont get fooled here, what we want to achieve here is NOT a real Force induction setup. ony a system that would grant the engine to have instant access to air without the need to pull the air on his own,

our objective right now is to gain experience in the matter

our goal right now is to have a intake system that gve more gain than a 300$ CAI

and right we see that our ducted fan in the intake give more result than any CAI out there.

we will eventually get our hand on better quality product, giving more gain ( but costing more)