Dodge SRT4 Stage 3

[4001]

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Ain't context a b****?

"The Mazdaspeed Proteg gives up 73 hp and a 100 lb-ft of torque to the overendowed SRT-4, and yet it was surprisingly close to nudging the Dodge out of the top spot. The fact is, none of this car's test numbers, not even its winning handling numbers, do justice to the Proteg's true capabilities."

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0301scc_20gsmazda/

So they said the Mini CooperS, SVT Focus, GTi 18.t, Tiburon V6, Civic Si, and Sentra Spec V were close to nudging the SRT out ? And I should think my car is inferior and be jealous..... (screwy)

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

Curious. Voids your warranty, but how long will it last on stock internals?

 

[VegasMSP]

Curious. Voids your warranty, but how long will it last on stock internals?

Sup SpicyMchaggis! Long time no speaky! Ever since I should my MSP, I haven't beeen that active on this board. Mainly if do any modification to an SRT4 (including Mopar stage kits unless the dealer installs it and have a cool service manager), it will be voided. Most of the SRTs I've seen on the forums over on srt forums are holding 400-450hp fine w/ stock internals. All the stock internals are forged stock on this car. I've seen members push 500hp and BOOM! This motor actually has been around for a long time. It came from a 2.4 Turbo stratus/cirrus in mexico in the late 90's. PVO took the motor and replaced all the internals. Mopar knows what the limit is on that motor, in which they created the stage kits. So stage 3 can push 355hp/365tq w/ high octane mode on. They even run this kits rich to prevent detonation and have reliability.

Here's an article about the 2.4 turbo motor for the srt.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/113_0309_srt/index1.html


Hope this helps, I'm not trying step on anyone's toes here. Just educating. I was the same when I had my MSP. Now I'm happy I have a motor I can rely on.

 

[II-Savy]

I don't think anyone can say anything really about the motor. It's too bad they didn't put that monster into a real car.

 

[otmsp]

"Gathering performance data, it quickly became clear the SRT-4 was dominating the straight-line tests, and the Mazdaspeed Proteg was being equally relentless with the handling tests. To break the tie, we took to the mountains and let real-world speed decide the winner. As you have surely guessed, the SRT-4 was the faster of the two, but not by much. It took more than three miles for the SRT-4 to pull an appreciable gap on the Proteg. While not as solid and composed as the Proteg, the Neon still showed decent balance, good grip, strong, fade-free brakes, and of course, staggering pull between the corners. This is a lot of performance for $20,000."
So you spend your time reading gay ass data on your computer or car magazines while I go the races and watched about 28 different cars(mazda 6,bmw325,tsx,rsx,msp,focus,ivtec,etc) kick the srt4`s ass all over the track. At the races you can see the real performance of a car.ZOOM....ZOOM....context.....

 

[Artur1976]

The best of mag racing.
Put a couple hundred $ into the SRT suspension and the MSP gets owned.

 

[jonlong]

Real world racing doesn't consist of people racing stock vs. stock. A guy w/ an SRT gets motor mounts and new shocks/struts for about a grand and will smoke an MSP, in the turns and the straights. And the SRT isn't built out of a bone stock neon, there are structural changes as well. So saying that "it's still a neon" isn't completely true. Besides, a stock protege is pretty nasty too.

 

[II-Savy]

The best of mag racing.
Put a couple hundred $ into the SRT suspension and the MSP gets owned.

Depends what you mean by owned. It will take a lot more than a couple hundred to make the WHOLE car nicer.

Guys it's not ALL about HP and 1/4 mile times. Don't want a NICE over all car? Why sacrifice(sp) looks, options, and conviences for going fast?

 

[otmsp]

The best of mag racing.
Put a couple hundred $ into the SRT suspension and the MSP gets owned.

they do have better suspencion and no they do not own no msp`s infact they come in last...TOURING CAR RACES ...CHECK THEM OUT THEY ARE SO FUN TO WACHT ---MAZDA 6 ARE THE ONES TO BEAT--BUT MSP`S ARE SO NICE TO SEE WHOOPING ON A BUNCH OF OTHER CARS INCLUDING fart4`s.. Just keep on listening to your computer buddies and reading gay ass magazines about the wonders of a stupid neon that has no race (puke) capabilities ..ZOOM..ZOOM..

 

[Artur1976]

In the road racing and auto x aspect.
MSP is a much better looking car and the interior is like 10 times nicer too no question about that.

 

[Artur1976]

Ok go to any local autox and u will see.

 

[Familia323]

it works for me....

 

[Iggy]

lord, this thread turned into something that should be put in the dumpster, cant we just stop this endless debate

 

[KonspiracyImage]

the car might be fast but i dont realy like the looks that much.

 

[Shane5425]

agreed, it might be faster, but it is still ugly, i am sure its a good car, but like many of the reviews said about the msp, its a evenly distrubuted car, handling, power curve, stylings are all evenly matched on the msp..

 

[otmsp]

agreed, it might be faster, but it is still ugly, i am sure its a good car, but like many of the reviews said about the msp, its a evenly distrubuted car, handling, power curve, stylings are all evenly matched on the msp..

I agree..

 

[Artur1976]

power curve?
My car is missing that one. What power the mighty 170hp.

 

[anarchistchiken]

power curve?
My car is missing that one. What power the mighty 170hp.

*sarcasm*You win the prize for most intelligent statement of the day!!!*sarcasm*


You're kidding, right?

 

[torque222]

this info might help you guys settle a few points, stock vs stock the srt is faster (msp 14.9-15.3) in the 1/4 (srt 13.8-14.4) in the 1/4... as far as interior they both have their pros and cons. engine capability a stock motor in the msp is good for maybe 325hp (safely and reliable) the srt motor is good for 450hp (safely and reliable) looks and styling... the msp is by far the better looking of the two but the srt looks more aggresive. suspension goes to the msp, but the srt is not that far behind. the bottom line is that if you own either car, you are in good shape, and either car can be made faster and handle better than the other if the amount of money invested is enough. the reason i believe this is because i've owned both.

 

[II-Savy]

this info might help you guys settle a few points, stock vs stock the srt is faster (msp 14.9-15.3) in the 1/4 (srt 13.8-14.4) in the 1/4... as far as interior they both have their pros and cons. engine capability a stock motor in the msp is good for maybe 325hp (safely and reliable) the srt motor is good for 450hp (safely and reliable) looks and styling... the msp is by far the better looking of the two but the srt looks more aggresive. suspension goes to the msp, but the srt is not that far behind. the bottom line is that if you own either car, you are in good shape, and either car can be made faster and handle better than the other if the amount of money invested is enough. the reason i believe this is because i've owned both.

I disagree about the interior. They are not even close. There is no dought the SRT is faster. It just doesn't have that refined look.