Debating whether or not to get the MS3 GT..

[///M Compact]

You are really ridiculous. I didn't say I was poor either.

Hey, it was just a guess...

How old are you?

I remember when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

You're bashing on a 16 year old "kid."

(sad1)(sad1)(sad1)(sad1)(sad1)

Oh your wife has a X3 she must be "rich."

Maybe...(dunno)

And what makes kids driving mustangs any different? They're pretty fast too.

Much like a neutered dog, you just don't get it. Mustangs AREN'T any different; I'm talking about any high performance car.

Plus I was saying I was looking at the Lancer Ralliart now.

I appreciate that. At least when you wrap the Mitsu around a tree it won't affect the MS3's insurance rates...(thumb)

 

[HueManatee]

Then why don't you act like an adult and explain it to me instead of bashing me.

Way to act your age.

Anyways, I'm done talking to you. Much like a broken pencil, you're pointless.

 

[///M Compact]

Then why don't you act like an adult and explain it to me instead of bashing me.

Way to act your age.

Anyways, I'm done talking to you. Much like a broken pencil, you're pointless.

Wow, a budding F1 driver and a comedian...

 

[Nliiitend1]

I'm loving it...

(lol)(lol2)

To the OP: We've tried to explain it to you...you just aren't getting it.

I suppose I could have phrased my original response in this thread differently, by simply saying, "No, you should NOT get this car."

Sorry if my judgment of your parents' position on this matter seems harsh, but it's the truth as I see it. Perhaps you shouldn't ask for peoples' opinions if you don't want to hear them. (dunno)

 

[GoFast]

Both parties have made some very valid points but it is time to cool down and leave personal attacks out of this or infractions will be issued

 

[HueManatee]

I asked for opinions about the car not about my financial status. All you could have said was I don't recommend getting a MS3 for your age.

That's all. And at least a moderator came because compact wouldn't have stopped.

Like I was saying I think I might get a Lancer Ralliart because I don't think driving a stickshift is that good of an idea for my age since I'm fairly new and where I live.

I love how you two welcomed a new member. I'm glad I got great first impressions.

 

[///M Compact]

You are most welcome!

 

[RC08MS3]

if you like the car because of the looks, price n blah blah, just get a regular 3 hatch, and trade in for a MS3 in a couple years. a new lancer ralliart is still turbo, is AWD, and is going to be just as intimidating as a MS3 to drive for performance.

your looking at cars out of your league, not trying to sound like a dick but facts are facts, regardless of financial status, or anything like that, a performance vehicle is not something to get as a first car, its not smart. just because your parents gave you 25k to get a car, does not mean u need to spend the 25k. u can get a civic or w.e, it wont matter because all you need is something to drive at the moment, after you've got some experience, then move up

 

[HueManatee]

Yeah I thought about that too and don't worry you weren't sounding like a dick.

I was thinking of getting a Hyundai because it seems like their cars have been getting a lot better lately.

I was looking at the Hyundai Sonata. I also thought about getting the Honda Fit because of all the good reviews but I really don't like the look of it.

 

[Saskatchewan17]

The Fit would be a good choice. Believe it or not I really like them.I think it would be a fun little car, with the 5speed manual though.

 

[hoagieryder]

Have you looked at an Si? Personally I don't think driving a stick should be difference maker. You can learn stick easily, its the power of the car that is the concern. Worst comes to worse you have a buddy drive the car home from the dealership and you practice in a parking lot.

 

[Saskatchewan17]

Si would be cool too. But I still maintain that if you have the oppertunity to get a Speed3, and you are willing to learn stick, get one. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

 

[Nliiitend1]

I think a manual tranny-equipped Fit would be a great first car, if you insist on a new one.

My fiancee has an '08 Fit Sport w/ manual, and we love it! (thumb)

 

[RC08MS3]

Si would be cool too. But I still maintain that if you have the oppertunity to get a Speed3, and you are willing to learn stick, get one. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth it.

if you were saying that to a 18+ year old id agree, but to a 16 year old, its more life threatening than being cool. a turbo 4 banger that will pull 120+ mph easy is not something to be put in the hands of a 16 year old, hence why your country wants to raise the age limit for getting a license to 18, because of things like that^^

the first car i ever owned was a 91 escort auto, biggest POS in the world. Second was a EG6 CX 5 speed. both rated under 100 HP to the crank, like 40 sumthin to the wheels? thats what a 16 year old needs

kid, if you can pick up something small, economical, and safe as your first car, do it. save you on gas money, because high school kids dont get paid s***, and it will save ALOT in insurance. i bought my MS3 when i was 18, my insurance was 1600 for six months, AFTER a 400 dollar multi-car discount for being on my rents plan. do you really wanna pay insurance like that? i was lucky enough to get a kick ass job and make the payments, but if i was in high school with the cost of gas going up, the MS3 would be gone.

as stated before, get yourself something like a fit thats got some sport to it, but wont get you in trouble and get your license taken before you graduate high, its just not worth it.

 

[Invictus]

I don't think I claimed to "know" anyone... (If you noticed, I used the phrase sounds like. )

I merely made an observation based on what was told to us:

-The kid is 16.

-His parents refuse to buy him a used car.

-They are considering spending ~$25K on a very performance-capable machine for a completely unexperienced driver who hasn't yet even mastered shifting for himself...

I don't think it's a stretch to draw the conclusion that I did. (dunno)

You're more than welcome to disagree with me, but it won't change my opinion on the matter.

The MS3 is a FWD hatchback. It has four doors, a good crash test rating, and has good fuel economy. Sure, it's quick, but it's no Evolution with a ton of modding potential to make it into some monstrous vehicle. I'm sure his parents will have him keep the warranty in-tact.

It's no stretch to draw your conclusion, but if you don't know this kid, you can't say that the MS3 is a senseless buy. If he's trustworthy and is putting a lot of research and consideration into the car choice, then I think it's perfectible sensible.

 

[farmurr]

I'm 22 and in a similar situation as the O.P; looking to potentially buy an MS3...and even with 6 years of (flawless) driving experience, I am now second guessing if I want to learn stick on this car. Take it from someone who has been in a similar situation - I drove a P.O.S '92 Chevy Lumina until it died, then upgraded to an '03 protege, and now upgrading again. I think a progression like this has certainly been helpful for my driving.

I'm also now looking at ralliart/evolution's (ughh so expensive) and si's (ughh where's the torque?) My step-mom works for Honda Finance, and that's the only reason whey I'm even looking there haha. Good luck with the car search buddy!

 

[HueManatee]

Thanks and for the ralliart my friend got it for well under the MSRP because he had good credit so if you have good credit you should definitely take a look at it!

 

[Nliiitend1]

The MS3 is a FWD hatchback. It has four doors, a good crash test rating, and has good fuel economy. Sure, it's quick, but it's no Evolution with a ton of modding potential to make it into some monstrous vehicle. I'm sure his parents will have him keep the warranty in-tact.

It's no stretch to draw your conclusion, but if you don't know this kid, you can't say that the MS3 is a senseless buy. If he's trustworthy and is putting a lot of research and consideration into the car choice, then I think it's perfectible sensible.

I have news for you. This car is MORE difficult to drive (quickly AND safely) than an Evo...

From the perspective of a first-time driver, a stock MS3 is a bit of a "monstrous vehicle."

Good fuel economy?? Compared to what? The MS3 should be embarrassed by its fuel economy numbers, not heralded for them. My neighbor gets better real-world mileage in his '08 Vette than I get in my little Mazda. (lol2)

Look, I've said my piece. You don't have to agree with me, but I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are yours.

Good day.

 

[///M Compact]

I have news for you. This car is MORE difficult to drive (quickly AND safely) than an Evo...

From the perspective of a first-time driver, a stock MS3 is a bit of a "monstrous vehicle."

Good fuel economy?? Compared to what? The MS3 should be embarrassed by its fuel economy numbers, not heralded for them. My neighbor gets better real-world mileage in his '08 Vette than I get in my little Mazda. (lol2)

Look, I've said my piece. You don't have to agree with me, but I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are yours.

Good day.

Agreed. The OP would be much better served by taking the Street Survival course and driving a relatively low powered vehicle for a few years. But what do we know?

 

[Sergius64]

I would get a Normal Mazda3 2009 hatch. It's safe, it's attractive, it's practical, it handles well and it's not as common as those Civic's.

If you really want a good deal on a new car I would look at something like Pontiac, since that whole chain is closing they're offering some killer deals on them. The dealers that have been told by GM that they're being closed will crawl on their knees after you to get rid of their inventory. Of course the when you go to sell that car later it won't be worth much, but I think this kind of purchase is something that makes sense for a new driver since your financial situation should be better by the time you're selling the car, and more able to take that financial hit.