custom supercharger project

[70]

Stutters last post was a semi-asault. It was also pointless. This guy is just making a supercharger for the car and everyone seems to have something negative to say.

It's always easy to criticize when your hands aren't getting dirty and you're not spending your money. I suggest the nay-sayers and haters shut-up and pick up a wrench to help this guy out. Maybe we can still salvage this thread and others like it or run off yet another tuner bringing out products for our cars.

did you just say the protege DOESN'T need top end power?!?!? Will you sell me some of what you're smoking?

Speak for yourself there buddy...

I like the idea of a supercharged motor. However, a centrifugal blower is not the way to go. A roots or whipple, properly sized is a better option.

If you want a turbo go get a turbo kit, not a similarly priced belt driven version.

And stop trying to be a martyr here. I didn't run anyone off of this board. He got himself banned from here on his own. Area 51 attempted to bring this product to market, but the ineterest was not there at the time.

The interest still isn't there once you find out how much it will cost to bring this kit to market. After all is said and done you will be in the same price range as a turbo kit.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

I guess you know best Stutters. I personally cant wait to see his supercharged car smacking the crap out of the turbo cars.

p.s. I don't know what I was thinking trying to compare a NA 4cyl honda 1.8L motor with a 6500rpm redline to a 2.0L NA Mazda 4cyl motor with a 6500rpm redline....the two are just too dissimilar to even be in the same league. (rolleyes)

 

[70]

I guess you know best Stutters. I personally cant wait to see his supercharged car smacking the crap out of the turbo cars.

p.s. I don't know what I was thinking trying to compare a NA 4cyl honda 1.8L motor with a 6500rpm redline to a 2.0L NA Mazda 4cyl motor with a 6500rpm redline....the two are just too dissimilar to even be in the same league. (rolleyes)

Ok, you accuse me of a semi-attack and cry about my post when you pull this BS.

Whatever man. I didn't realize you were the be-all-end-all of everything forced induction.

You say you want top end power, then say a Honda motor with some kit moved the whole power band up. You are not even sure on what you want.

The FS motor is a freakin' truck motor. The Honda motor is not. There are more factors involved than simply displacement and red-line. Yes, the two motors do not have enough in common to make an accurate judgement of how FS will run with a centrifugal blower. I saw the curves of the Area 51 project.

Now, if you use a different sized centrifugal blower, it might change how power comes on. But that is something that would have to be worked out and tested.

Like I have said before, it would be nice to see a super charged Protege. I do not think a centrifugal blower is the way to go.

 

[Rism]

Im not gonna be using a centrifugal blower guys so there is no point in arguing about it anymore. I have already made the decision on using a eaton m62 with a6" or 7"(have to do more measurements) drive extension so I wont have to remove the PS or anything like that.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

good luck rism, you'll need it

 

[Rism]

I dont need luck just time, cause it will get done no matter what walls I run into it. I have the determination of something with a lot of determination.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

ok....I wish you the best.

 

[mp5jeff]

personally cant wait to see his supercharged car smacking the crap out of the turbo cars.

you might be waiting a very long time, because i doubt this will ever happen.

 

[Rism]

you might be waiting a very long time, because i doubt this will ever happen.

Thats cool how you judge people you dont even know, shows tons of intelligence. Can you teach me to be as ignorant as you?

 

[mp5jeff]

Thats cool how you judge people you dont even know, shows tons of intelligence. Can you teach me to be as ignorant as you?

shows how much intelligence you have, or lack there of, because you couldn't comprehend my statement lol, figures...

 

[Rism]

The only reason why I would have misunderstood what you said is because of your poor grammar. What you should have said was this, "you might be waiting a very long time, because i doubt THAT will ever happen."
Using "THAT" to indicate a SC car wouldnt beat a TC car. Rather than using "THIS" which implies my custom SC project will never happen. Thank you and welcome to english 101.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

 

[KzA]

...this...

as in..what it says in this quote that i just attached to my thread..

Dont be a tool

 

[duMb KeoLa]

The only reason why I would have misunderstood what you said is because of your poor grammar. What you should have said was this, "you might be waiting a very long time, because i doubt THAT will ever happen."
Using "THAT" to indicate a SC car wouldnt beat a TC car. Rather than using "THIS" which implies my custom SC project will never happen. Thank you and welcome to english 101.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

seriously dude...i dont know you..but youre being a complete ass...even a 3rd grader would have understood what he meant in his statement, let alone someone in first year college english...quit being an ass

oh...and good luck with the supercharger, id personally love to kill a supercharged protege with my protege..hehehe

 

[Rism]

It seems this thread has turned into a big flame war thanks to a few people who would rather make childish comments about me and the project im doing. Also I couldnt careless if your car could be a supercharged protege or not thats not even what this ******* thread is about nor am I trying to make the fastest FI protege around, so I really dont know why it even came up.

Now im going to attempt to get this thread back on track. If you dont like me or what im trying to do be a grown up and just ignore this thread, its not that hard I learned how to do it at 11 years old.

So, does anyone have some intercooler suggestions?

 

[Paul Ruebens]

intercooler with an eaton blower? You really sould spend some more time researching dude. You're going to start running into serious problems.

 

[Rism]

Well I have done plenty of research and have found tons of eaton supercharges running intercoolers. I dont see why it would present any problem.

Also, does anyone know where I can get a power steering pulley that has a double groove so I could fit 2 belts on it. I looked around but only found GM ones, are they all universal or do I need a special mazda one?

 

[Paul Ruebens]

when you use a supercharger you should always run a dedicated belt just for the crank and blower....you can run it off another accessory but you start running into belt slippage and drag at idle....some more stuff to look into.

Also, if you are trying to run an eaton blower off the intake manifold you can't run an intercooler...

This is the kind of stuff I was talking about earlier. You should talk to Roddimus Prime on protegeclub.com He's already underway with his project and from what we hear it's going really well. You should at least talk with him before spending/wasting your money.

 

[Rism]

Im not putting over the intake manifold its going right above the header. Also I am going to be running the SC off a dedicated belt which is why I want to get some info on a P/S pulley that can accomodate two seperate belts. That way I can keep the stock engine belt how it is and just run a sperate short belt from the P/S pulley to the SC.

 

[Little Beavis]

Im putting over the intake manifold its going right above the header.

The only reason why I would have misunderstood what you said is because of your poor grammar. What you should have said was this, "you might be waiting a very long time, because i doubt THAT will ever happen."
Using "THAT" to indicate a SC car wouldnt beat a TC car. Rather than using "THIS" which implies my custom SC project will never happen. Thank you and welcome to english 101.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

People in glass houses. . .
Well you know the rest. (hand)

Sorry had to. . .we all need to play nice.

Anyway, if I understand this. . .you're putting it over the exhaust side, and hoping to run it through an intercooler to the intake (like a turbo)? Just trying to figure out what is going on (and if I can help in any way). I'd love to see a SC Protege like many others. But I also agree that a turbo will produce more power (nature of the game. . .can't mess with physics. . .).

So, this is really an on topic post. . .how does the outlet of the 62 work? Most of the SC's I've seen have been on the intake, but you're doing something different (not wrong, mind you, just different). I'd really like to see you pull this off though! Best of luck.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

an M62 blower is 17" long in it's SHORTEST configuration. The compressed air is blown out of a square/rectangluar opening. You are going to have to custom fabricate a box that will funnel down into a piping suitable for an intercooler....then you'll have to find a way to get the disharge from the center of the front of the engine to an intercooler, mind you it's going to have to pass between your bulky blower and the radiator/fans. Make sure to stay clear of the exhaust also because you get that discharge tubing too close and you'll end up boiling the air before it ever gets to the intercooler.

Obviously you have this all figured out and don't need help from me but if you figure out how you're going to mount an eaton blower under the hood and intercool it I'd love to see those pics.

Personally I'm hoping you finish your project but in all honesty it sounds like you don't even know whats going on. There is a lot more to something like this than just slapping some pieces together. You need to sit down and spend some serious time taking measurements under the hood and checking out how everything will fit under there.