Custom Performance Engineering's complete SPEED6 tuning solution

[Killer]

and the story changes. :bs:

 

[RevLimitLaunch]

whoa off topic, every time i see an update i hope its about the cpe ems...but instead its about how fast someone went...sweet (stfu) lol

 

[jdub260]

whoa off topic, every time i see an update i hope its about the cpe ems...but instead its about how fast someone went...sweet (stfu) lol

I agree this is a paid AV thread and we should keep the he said she said out of it.

No more usless arguing here, it will be deleted. If you want to keep this going start a new thread or use PM's.

We need to get this thread back on track and keep it that way.

CP-E do you have any new updates to get this back on track?

 

[www.cp-e.com]

I agree this is a paid AV thread and we should keep the he said she said out of it.

No more usless arguing here, it will be deleted. If you want to keep this going start a new thread or use PM's.

We need to get this thread back on track and keep it that way.

CP-E do you have any new updates to get this back on track?

Not really news, but we just had a Mazda dealer install all of our products on a SPEED3 and tuned it using the Standback. They were considering installing our parts on new cars and selling them as a package, so this was their "experiment" so to speak. He went from 217/240 to 273/320 to the wheels!

Posted on another messageboard:

My name is Dennis Gomes I work for the Legendary Bob Tasca at his performance center in Cranston R.I. I have to be honest I mainly build Mustang's and Ford GT's but, when your bosses grandson Carl Tasca Jr. wants his Mazda to go "fast" you have to do it. I hooked up with a company called CP-E (custom performance engineering) who had parts available already for the speed 3. Now I have been dealing with a number of big name companies such as Saleen, Ford Racing, Whipple Superchargers and Greddy on a couple of RX-8's that we have installed turbo's on. I was nervious about using cp-e do to the fact I didn't know weather or not they could meet the standards that I was use to but, they EXCEEDED my expections beyond belief with colored and detailed instructions, excellent tech support and just all around excellent customer service. Now lets talk about our 3 speed, stock to the front wheels on our in house dyno dynamics dyno the 3 made 217 hp and 240 torque. After installing CP-E's in fender cold air induction, downpipe, exhaust, HKS BOV and CP-E standback PCM software with a little tuning the car made an incredible 273hp and 320 torque at the front wheels!!! All of CP-E's parts were great, the exhaust sounds like nothing I have ever heard, and all the fitment was as good as stock. The over all driveablity of the car is unbelievable. If you have any further question on this write up,would like these parts installed by Tasca or even buy a Mazda from us you can reach me at 401.692.6973 or shoot me an email at dgomes@tasca.com. Thank you CP-E!

Jordan

 

[knowledge007]

Jordan, what did he have ont he turbo back the same as me with one high and one 12"er?

Also, when is the ems going to be ready to ship. That is the only thing I am waiting for. As soon as that comes out I will be purchasing the upgraded tmic.

 

[dadasracecar]

Not really news, but we just had a Mazda dealer install all of our products on a SPEED3 and tuned it using the Standback. They were considering installing our parts on new cars and selling them as a package, so this was their "experiment" so to speak. He went from 217/240 to 273/320 to the wheels!

Posted on another messageboard:




Jordan

That is fantastic news for you guys. Congratulations. You just thought there were lots of orders....

 

[www.cp-e.com]

Jordan, what did he have ont he turbo back the same as me with one high and one 12"er?

Also, when is the ems going to be ready to ship. That is the only thing I am waiting for. As soon as that comes out I will be purchasing the upgraded tmic.

Dennis has the full turboback with cat and single muffler. If I'm not mistaken, it's the same setup you have, no?

I just asked the boss (Josh) and he says that we're going to start selling the Standback to MS3 folks. If you'd like to order one, you may do it over the phone by giving us a call.


Cheers,
Jordan

 

[knowledge007]

Jordan,

Did you guys finally get full control over the throttle body?

 

[www.cp-e.com]

Jordan,

Did you guys finally get full control over the throttle body?

Nope, unfortunately not. That's actually a tremendous project, since any traditional method of messing with the throttle won't work and will just set a cel. The throttle has two redundant processors that constantly monitors the throttle position. If one processor indicates a different signal than the second redundant processor, then it sets a cel and goes into limp mode. Since there is no cable attached to the throttle, these processors ensure that the computer doesn't do something that will put the driver in harms way (like keeping the throttle open when it shouldn't be). So not only do we need to be very careful about the end-users safety, we also have to figure out how to "trick" both redundant processors without setting CELs. So there really is a lot of work that still needs to be done.

But our Standback does control boost timing and air/fuel. It is just at the mercy of the throttle plate. We'd be happy to sell you one, and if you'd like to upgrade to the next generation down the line, I'm sure we could work out some kind of deal.


Jordan

 

[knowledge007]

That was exactly my next question... Would I be able to upgrade? And would I have to replace the entire unit or will there be just a cd with a reprogram map to update software?

 

[70]

Nope, unfortunately not. That's actually a tremendous project, since any traditional method of messing with the throttle won't work and will just set a cel. The throttle has two redundant processors that constantly monitors the throttle position. If one processor indicates a different signal than the second redundant processor, then it sets a cel and goes into limp mode. Since there is no cable attached to the throttle, these processors ensure that the computer doesn't do something that will put the driver in harms way (like keeping the throttle open when it shouldn't be). So not only do we need to be very careful about the end-users safety, we also have to figure out how to "trick" both redundant processors without setting CELs. So there really is a lot of work that still needs to be done.

But our Standback does control boost timing and air/fuel. It is just at the mercy of the throttle plate. We'd be happy to sell you one, and if you'd like to upgrade to the next generation down the line, I'm sure we could work out some kind of deal.


Jordan

Mazda certainly seems to go to great lengths to make things work so that tuners can't mess with it later on.

 

[InlineTwin]

Mazda certainly seems to go to great lengths to make things work so that tuners can't mess with it later on.

EPA and safety crap...you know nothing important.

 

[Dalton]

Not really news, but we just had a Mazda dealer install all of our products on a SPEED3 and tuned it using the Standback. They were considering installing our parts on new cars and selling them as a package, so this was their "experiment" so to speak. He went from 217/240 to 273/320 to the wheels!

Jordan

Is there something coming for CX7 also - I ordered the CP-E CAI but mostly in terms of EMU? (eekdance)

 

[70]

EPA and safety crap...you know nothing important.

You can keep safety and EPA standards in mind while still working with tuners. I think other companies have gone that route before...

 

[Hate]

You can keep safety and EPA standards in mind while still working with tuners. I think other companies have gone that route before...

Cater to the majority, not the minority. What's in it for Mazda? I don't expect anything from them or any auto maker in respects to making a car mod friendly. It isn't their job to. Their job is to mass produce cars that work reliably.

So back to the topic, how soon are we talking on second generation? Months? Years?

 

[1fastMS6]

turn off the A/C, trust me it works try it. you will see you speed going over 150mph if you have the A/C off.

all the time when i got up to 150 my ac was off. it just stops going any faster than that. i still haven't gotten a reply from cpe themselves. so a question for them : does the ecu eliminate the 150mph govenor?

 

[www.cp-e.com]

Is there something coming for CX7 also - I ordered the CP-E CAI but mostly in terms of EMU? (eekdance)

We fully intend on adapting the Standback to the CX7. We just need someone to come by our shop when we have a spare moment so we can find the right wires to tap, and to make sure that we have the right crank timing wheel pattern. In other words, the Standback as it sits can be installed on a CX7 with no hardware changes, which makes our lives much easier

So back to the topic, how soon are we talking on second generation? Months? Years?

We're talking months, but I can't say how many. I'd like to say that we should have something in the next 3-4 months, but that's just an off the top of my head estimate. But I'll be on the forums providing regular updates on our progress so everyone is up to date.

all the time when i got up to 150 my ac was off. it just stops going any faster than that. i still haven't gotten a reply from cpe themselves. so a question for them : does the ecu eliminate the 150mph govenor?

Unfortunately our piggyback will not be able to eliminate your speed governer. The Standback can lie to various sensors, but the vehicle speed sensor is not one of them. Your best bet would be some kind of flash tuner, like the Cobb Access Port, but you'll have to do some research to see if that is one of the AP's functions. You might check out Cobb's website for more information.


Jordan

 

[ms6denver]

I thought this thread was supposed to be a SPEED6 forum. Not to be a (expletive of your choice) but I don't give a rip about the CX7 or the SPEED3 otherwise I'd visit that thread.

I still have the money sitting in my bank account once CPE decides to get serious and release a "finished" product. I hope this doesn't go the way of your FMIC which has been floating on the CPE website for at least the last 7 months listed as "coming soon". Please don't stall out on this product... I want it.

Jordan, any NEW news on the SPEED6 PnP ECU solution over the last 2 weeks?

 

[RevLimitLaunch]

I thought this thread was supposed to be a SPEED6 forum. Not to be a (expletive of your choice) but I don't give a rip about the CX7 or the SPEED3 otherwise I'd visit that thread.

I still have the money sitting in my bank account once CPE decides to get serious and release a "finished" product. I hope this doesn't go the way of your FMIC which has been floating on the CPE website for at least the last 7 months listed as "coming soon". Please don't stall out on this product... I want it.

Jordan, any NEW news on the SPEED6 PnP ECU solution over the last 2 weeks?

much agreed, speed 3 and cx7 have their own section. but an update on pnp, hopefully for the good, would be aweosme lol

 

[dadasracecar]

I thought this thread was supposed to be a SPEED6 forum. Not to be a (expletive of your choice) but I don't give a rip about the CX7 or the SPEED3 otherwise I'd visit that thread.

I still have the money sitting in my bank account once CPE decides to get serious and release a "finished" product. I hope this doesn't go the way of your FMIC which has been floating on the CPE website for at least the last 7 months listed as "coming soon". Please don't stall out on this product... I want it.

Jordan, any NEW news on the SPEED6 PnP ECU solution over the last 2 weeks?

Take a chill pill buddy. The standback is available now as wire-in. PnP depends on getting the connectors. Do you think CPE is "stalling" on purpose. They're in it to make money and they don't make money until (the proverbial) you buy something from them. The FMIC is almost ready to ship. I have a prototype on my car now and it's awesome. It will also be the first FMIC on the market. They know you want it. They want to sell it. They don't make a thing until they do and I'll bet you anything you want that Josh, Jordan, and Anthony are there now. 8:05 pm Tuesday. It's also very likely that Lou and John are there as well. What are you doing right now???