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Little bit of both probably.
CulRidr's MP3 N/A build (~150whp goal)
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Completely true actually. The axel helps hold the bearing together. Putting weight on it is a quick way to destroy them. Made that mistake once with a tercel here at work and had to replace the bearings.
Maxx Mazda
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Malarky! You can push it just fine without axles. Axles don't support ANY weight when they're in the car!
Not to mention, without the engine/ trans you're down about 700lbs in the front. Divide that by 2, each front wheel is carrying 350lbs less than usual, and seeing as how the axles don't support weight anyway, it's definitly not going to do any damage.
Ettienne, they're feeding you bulls*** man.
Not to mention, without the engine/ trans you're down about 700lbs in the front. Divide that by 2, each front wheel is carrying 350lbs less than usual, and seeing as how the axles don't support weight anyway, it's definitly not going to do any damage.
Ettienne, they're feeding you bulls*** man.
Agreed that you can push it in a straight line (they did it to get the car from the lift to it's present resting spot). What they are saying is that you can't push AND steer without the axles.
I originally said they aren't connected to the engine, which probably misled you. They aren't connected to the engine OR the hubs; if you'll notice from the engine bay picture, they aren't there at all. Does that change your thinking on this matter?
I originally said they aren't connected to the engine, which probably misled you. They aren't connected to the engine OR the hubs; if you'll notice from the engine bay picture, they aren't there at all. Does that change your thinking on this matter?
Maxx Mazda
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Not at all. They should be removed completely. Think about for a sec how the weight is carried. The wheel is supported by the hub, the hub is supported by the spindle. Yes, the hub rides o na bearing within the spindle, but it always does. The axle supports no weight. There is no added stress on the bearing, and in fact there is less stress, because the engine is removed. Pushing it whether turning or not poses no risk to your vehicle. Make sure the wheels are tight though! 
Not at all. They should be removed completely. Think about for a sec how the weight is carried. The wheel is supported by the hub, the hub is supported by the spindle. Yes, the hub rides o na bearing within the spindle, but it always does. The axle supports no weight. There is no added stress on the bearing, and in fact there is less stress, because the engine is removed. Pushing it whether turning or not poses no risk to your vehicle. Make sure the wheels are tight though!
With the axels out there is a lot more stress on those bearings. With no axle there is nothing supporting the hub other than the press fit it has. I have personal ruined a set of bearings this way and have seen others do the same....you have to have and axle in there otherwise you run the risk of damaging them.
He's still working on it. Its getting close tho. I think the time frame is maybe a week or so.
Maxx Mazda
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You're not running an oil cooler?!?! The fs oil temps are astronomically high, even just lightly modified. From just the msp cooler I dropped 40 deg f! You really should get one, the msp one is usually in stock and does a great job. Also will be leagues better for your engine in the winter...
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16' Mazda 6 sport manual
your subtlety is amazing.......(boom07)
Maxx Mazda
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Ya, get yourself an MSP oil cooler. Pricey, but VERY much worth it. Highly effective too! I can vouch for that on a heavily modified engine like mine.
I wouldn't bother with an air to oil cooler, espesially without the DocB pump. Our oil pumps are barely sufficient as it is.
I wouldn't bother with an air to oil cooler, espesially without the DocB pump. Our oil pumps are barely sufficient as it is.
it's funny how you didn't think ahead
I put my oil cooler on YEARS before I even had the turbo on
any sort of hard driving or even highway driving gets oil temps in the 230+ range, and that was someone with a P5 that had an oil temp gauge with NO cooler
hell, I even made further "boost" preparations by installing clamps on every single vacuum hose and the purge solenoid check valve... that was almost 2 years before the turbo went in
you can install it later, but it's NOT fun
the least you want to do now is nickel and dime
I put my oil cooler on YEARS before I even had the turbo on
any sort of hard driving or even highway driving gets oil temps in the 230+ range, and that was someone with a P5 that had an oil temp gauge with NO cooler
hell, I even made further "boost" preparations by installing clamps on every single vacuum hose and the purge solenoid check valve... that was almost 2 years before the turbo went in
you can install it later, but it's NOT fun
the least you want to do now is nickel and dime
Why would I have thought of that? I didn't even know we didn't have one, and my temps have never even come close to that, or gone out of "normal range". Maybe if I lived in Texas, but I don't, so I'll let time tell me whether I need one or not.
If you really feel like indulging me, do you have part#s? Or is that all in your FS-ZET thread?
Can't seem to find anything in the common manuals since it doesn't have MSP parts...
If you really feel like indulging me, do you have part#s? Or is that all in your FS-ZET thread?
Can't seem to find anything in the common manuals since it doesn't have MSP parts...
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