Cork Sport 'Power Series' Tuner Comptuer (Mazdaspeed)

[AutoBox]

25crank hp with an exhuast...that fockin sucks then...geez u figure only 1-2whp is from the supposd "tuning" lol

 

[SonicRacer]

i think corksport has pics on their site....25 crack hp is weak sauce man..for that price at least...

I'm interested in what else you can spend $875 ($825 right now) and gain 25hp (on a stock car, no upgrades), pass emissions, and upgrade/tune later on for little or no cost.

 

[SonicRacer]

by the way, those numbers are WITH CORKSPORTS exhaust..

you need their exhaust since it has less backpressure. GET ONE AT REDUCED PRICE asap!!

normally 389
now 330! (LIMITED time!! GB)

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54392&page=1&pp=10

Actually the power gains were on a 100% bone stock car. The car was put in stock form to build the Tuner Computer with.

The car goes back in at the end of the month to get intake and exhuast maps programed in. I will repost those numbers. Also a CEL eliminator for the exhaust (cats removed). And a turbo timer feature function.

There is another guy here in town that is getting one of these computers and he'll be doing a back to back dyno runs. My car seemed to make more power than stock. I was at 216crank horse power with JUST the Tuner Computer.

 

[Dr.Sound]

^ wow!

all u guys that are crying *wa,wa, it only makes 25 hp, wa* are forgetting the main issue......TIMING AND FUEL MAPS.

if the timing and fuel maps are adjusted to make it safe to boost 14lb, then i'm game.

 

[BinaryRotary]

Actually the power gains were on a 100% bone stock car. The car was put in stock form to build the Tuner Computer with.

The car goes back in at the end of the month to get intake and exhuast maps programed in. I will repost those numbers. Also a CEL eliminator for the exhaust (cats removed). And a turbo timer feature function.

There is another guy here in town that is getting one of these computers and he'll be doing a back to back dyno runs. My car seemed to make more power than stock. I was at 216crank horse power with JUST the Tuner Computer.

The man just said, a 32 hp gain on a BONE STOCK CAR w/upped boost. Throw on an exhaust and better IC, you'll see alot more.

Think about it, if you run all that with proper fuel and timing WITH more boost and an FCD and you could see 250 -260 HP.

 

[Dr.Sound]

very nice!

 

[SonicRacer]

The man just said, a 32 hp gain on a BONE STOCK CAR w/upped boost. Throw on an exhaust and better IC, you'll see alot more.

Think about it, if you run all that with proper fuel and timing WITH more boost and an FCD and you could see 250 -260 HP.

The tuners did not feel that going over 9psi was the best of ideas. 9psi is what they showed on their gauge to I should say. I was running 6psi on their gauge with my car in stock form. 3psi was all the increase we went and tuned it for that. So let's say I decide to run 12psi with this car. Then throw on an exhaust, intake, IC pipes... have a new map built for that application. Don't you think that'd be a nice increase in power? I sure do. This current setup is of a conservative street type setting. We only increased 3psi and adjusted some maps. Once some mods are added and race season gets closer I can up the boost more on my own. (of course I will be posting results. Both power numbers and 1/4 mile numbers. I'm planning on mid 13's this season w/ out issue using slicks.)

Sure, it's a turbo car... You can throw a bunch of boost at it and make a great power increase number. Does that mean it's safe and or a good idea? No... Personally I'd rather have safety as my main concern over what power gain I can see. Way too many people have blown these motors up just because they throw boost at it and don't have anything for fuel management. A FPR is not good fuel management people! haha!


Let's not forget to mention the gas mileage went up. I get 3-4more miles per gallon now. I don't have all that excess fuel going to waste and making the back of my car and exhaust black.

 

[122 Vega]

Remember Mangus showed 77whp increase with exhaust and 3 psi! Haha.

I'd rather spend the extra $600 to get a fully user programmable AEM system with the ability to control boost and run coil packs if I want. Pkus it has data logging capabilities, knock retard and a host of other goodies.

$875 does seem a lot for 25 bhp.

Skeptical as usual,

britt

 

[SuperSpud]

I'm interested in what else you can spend $875 ($825 right now) and gain 25hp (on a stock car, no upgrades), pass emissions, and upgrade/tune later on for little or no cost.

$25 for a MBC....

so, I know this has been beat to death, but I still dont understand...

you get 25 CRANK hp with the computer, I get that... but, is that with the added 3psi? I mean, wouldnt going up to 9psi give you almost that much of a gain in the first place? so that means, after the boost, the computer that cost a grand, only give you maybe 5-10 crank hp?

OR

was the car already at 9psi, then dynod to gain 25 crank hp after the computer/chip or whatever is put on?

 

[mattybo]

i think what CS is saying is that you can purchase their chip and have it custom mapped with whatever mods you have done to your car. For example, i have an injen CAI (which is exactly what CS's "power series" intake is based from). I also plan to buy Corksport's IC pipes and turbo back exhaust once they are completed. At that point in time I would be able to call corksport and say, "hey guys i have your intake, turbo back and IC pipes, please send me your programmed chip mapped with that information in mind."

I imagine they would have different maps for those mods as compared to someone who ordered the chip on a stock msp. I like the idea personally. I was gonna invest money in a profec b, but with this chip i wont have to. Also it's plug and play and tested to be safe. I bet with all the mods i listed, the chip would add ALOT more than 25hp. I think it would be somewhere around 35-40hp. HP grows exponentially with the addition of increased airflow. Say you have a stock ecu and you slap a turbo back on....maybe you will see 20-25whp gain. If you slap that same turbo back on with a Corksport chip(with custom maps and an additional 3psi) I bet you would see 30-35 whp.


But who knows, i guess only time will tell.

 

[ViksMSP]

$25 for a MBC....

so, I know this has been beat to death, but I still dont understand...

you get 25 CRANK hp with the computer, I get that... but, is that with the added 3psi? I mean, wouldnt going up to 9psi give you almost that much of a gain in the first place? so that means, after the boost, the computer that cost a grand, only give you maybe 5-10 crank hp?

OR

was the car already at 9psi, then dynod to gain 25 crank hp after the computer/chip or whatever is put on?

The first thing you said was correct I believe.
I've been thinking about this for a while now, as you can see in my sig I'm waiting on AEM as well, but here's the deal. I don't think AEM will give us all that more in at 9 psi. maybe 10-15hp more, but the main reason is safely running it.
Like SonicRacer said, you can turn up your boost to 15psi and have 230+hp, (descreetspeed) but is it safe?? Maybe with 105 octane gas you're a bit safer. The reason why it's only 25hp is because it's still running stock exhaust which will eat up your hp with more boost. also it's stock IC piping, and no intake I believe.
Replace all that and you'll be looking at least 50hp. Have it remapped and run safe and most importantly not rich. I'm getting tired of cleaning off my bumper and backfiring all the time.

Now, question to SonicRacer, does it cost extra to have your chip remapped for like exhaust and FMIC?? or is it only a shipping charge. If you mentioned it before, sorry, I don't feel like reading the last 6 pages.
And do I need to send in my ECU to get it chipped??
Thanks,

Vik.

 

[SonicRacer]

$25 for a MBC....

Yeah, who cares if you are running high unsafe boost levels with no tuning and on 20 thousand dollar car.... you're making power right? Who cares about anything else.

 

[mattybo]

corksport's website says nothing about costs for reflashing once you add mods. I would say wait to buy the chip until you have most of the mods you want, I.E. intake, turbo back, IC pipes, ect. ect. I dont know why people are so against corksports chip. Those of us who are willing to invest in electronic boost controllers are theoretically only spending around 550 on the chip considering you're saving the 300+ you would spend on a profec-b(not to mention install time).

But then again your limited to the boost level that corksport sets. But obviously they know what they are doing and after all the posts i have read, 9-10psi seems to be the safest idea.

 

[ViksMSP]

Man SonicRacer, I got you mixed up with SoniCraze. Now I just noticed that and makes much more sense.

 

[ViksMSP]

Also, how is this unit going to work with a MIL eliminator, will you still need it or you won't need it, like AEM.
Just wondering cause i blew my resistor yesterday, so i'm looking to fix the CEL again.
Thank,
Vik.

 

[Woody1969]

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[BinaryRotary]

The tuners did not feel that going over 9psi was the best of ideas. 9psi is what they showed on their gauge to I should say. I was running 6psi on their gauge with my car in stock form. 3psi was all the increase we went and tuned it for that. So let's say I decide to run 12psi with this car. Then throw on an exhaust, intake, IC pipes... have a new map built for that application. Don't you think that'd be a nice increase in power? I sure do. This current setup is of a conservative street type setting. We only increased 3psi and adjusted some maps. Once some mods are added and race season gets closer I can up the boost more on my own. (of course I will be posting results. Both power numbers and 1/4 mile numbers. I'm planning on mid 13's this season w/ out issue using slicks.)

Sure, it's a turbo car... You can throw a bunch of boost at it and make a great power increase number. Does that mean it's safe and or a good idea? No... Personally I'd rather have safety as my main concern over what power gain I can see. Way too many people have blown these motors up just because they throw boost at it and don't have anything for fuel management. A FPR is not good fuel management people! haha!


Let's not forget to mention the gas mileage went up. I get 3-4more miles per gallon now. I don't have all that excess fuel going to waste and making the back of my car and exhaust black.

I FULLY agree with the use of a rising fate FPR, ALONG with proper fuel maps. The 2 can coincide contrary to popular belief.

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

Like SonicRacer said, you can turn up your boost to 15psi and have 230+hp, (descreetspeed) but is it safe?? Maybe with 105 octane gas you're a bit safer. The reason why it's only 25hp is because it's still running stock exhaust which will eat up your hp with more boost. also it's stock IC piping, and no intake I believe.

so since you called me out what would be not safe about it?
sonicracer chime in on this yourself also?
with higher octane with no piggy-back or ems...whats the unsafe part about pushing 15psi i am running on my set-up?
im dying to hear this(yes)

 

[SuperSpud]

so since you called me out what would be not safe about it?
sonicracer chime in on this yourself also?
with higher octane with no piggy-back or ems...whats the unsafe part about pushing 15psi i am running on my set-up?
im dying to hear this(yes)

toothpick internals?

lol.. I dunno s*** about chips/computers or tuning.. I just felt like getting in the mix of things...

 

[CatD399]

toothpick internals?

HA!
(rofl)