Cobb cold air box for SRI
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whitey4311
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Have you not noticed the cut outs in the engine cover? There are slits cut all along it that allows air to pass under directly where the CAI filter sits but the filter is still a few inches above that so water wont defy gravity and be sucked up from the engine cover.
As far as tube material and heat the MS CAI is aluminum I believe and yes it retains heat as well as anything else but aluminum also quickly dissipates heat.
Not sure why Mazda yanked the MS CAI but I never have had an issue with mine and it now has 22k miles. Sort of sucks they did that because it was the one way us warranty lovers could upgrade but not get harassed. No way am I messing with after market s*** on my car because I just dont need that stress from the dealer.
Beyond that I just dont see why people are trying to make big power in a FWD car. Seriously the thing torque steers like a b**** now so what are people trying to do here? I am not sure how much more power can be effectively put to the ground but I dont see it being much more and definitely not worth it to me regarding warranty issues.
As for the SRI I see your points but this is merely about price point to some and easier access. I still will not buy into the idea even being on par with a true CAI. This is the only point I intend to argue but the other points are valid you make.
PS take a peak at your grill and you will see where the CAI filter sits at the lower left driver side. This is why the air deflector was removed in its installation process.
As far as tube material and heat the MS CAI is aluminum I believe and yes it retains heat as well as anything else but aluminum also quickly dissipates heat.
Not sure why Mazda yanked the MS CAI but I never have had an issue with mine and it now has 22k miles. Sort of sucks they did that because it was the one way us warranty lovers could upgrade but not get harassed. No way am I messing with after market s*** on my car because I just dont need that stress from the dealer.
Beyond that I just dont see why people are trying to make big power in a FWD car. Seriously the thing torque steers like a b**** now so what are people trying to do here? I am not sure how much more power can be effectively put to the ground but I dont see it being much more and definitely not worth it to me regarding warranty issues.
As for the SRI I see your points but this is merely about price point to some and easier access. I still will not buy into the idea even being on par with a true CAI. This is the only point I intend to argue but the other points are valid you make.
PS take a peak at your grill and you will see where the CAI filter sits at the lower left driver side. This is why the air deflector was removed in its installation process.
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Super Unique
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I am glad several folks got a mazdaspeed cold air intake when they were still selling them.
Those of us facing choices now, as I outlined above there is really only 1 truly viable choice. Which unfortunately until now, has been slighted because everyone wasn't aware of the box coming out for it. Even without this forthcoming box, I was planning on making my own anyways. I realize that many people don't have access to equipment and skills to fabricate their own parts. For those who do have tools and some skills I encourage you to exercise your abilities. You never know what you might come up with.
Those of us facing choices now, as I outlined above there is really only 1 truly viable choice. Which unfortunately until now, has been slighted because everyone wasn't aware of the box coming out for it. Even without this forthcoming box, I was planning on making my own anyways. I realize that many people don't have access to equipment and skills to fabricate their own parts. For those who do have tools and some skills I encourage you to exercise your abilities. You never know what you might come up with.
On the "other forums" Cobb has mentioned that box makes no difference in performance, they're just offering it to make the engine bay look better and to appease people who want "cold air"
I have the Cobb SRI here in Florida where there is no such thing as "cold air", and my car pulls hard regardless of time sitting at lights and drive thru's. It makes no sense to me to spend more money then needed. This part has proven itself by quite a few people on this and other forums.
I have the Cobb SRI here in Florida where there is no such thing as "cold air", and my car pulls hard regardless of time sitting at lights and drive thru's. It makes no sense to me to spend more money then needed. This part has proven itself by quite a few people on this and other forums.
Super Unique
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There are those of us who would rather have it, than not.
I am not knocking those who would rather go without. For me, it offers a more complete install, and offers some protection to the filter element, along with making the engine compartment more normal in appearance. This will likely get rid of any noise complaints some folks would have with the intake as well. Make it more suitable for those who would rather not advertise their turbo.
I am not knocking those who would rather go without. For me, it offers a more complete install, and offers some protection to the filter element, along with making the engine compartment more normal in appearance. This will likely get rid of any noise complaints some folks would have with the intake as well. Make it more suitable for those who would rather not advertise their turbo.
Super Unique
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I still haven't decided. I could probably whip up a box for a lot less money, and it wouldn't be screaming bling either.
In fact thats an idea now. I could make it look so close to stock they would have to look twice and still no be sure it was aftermarket LOL....
In fact thats an idea now. I could make it look so close to stock they would have to look twice and still no be sure it was aftermarket LOL....
smakdown61
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With my SRI while driving, my IAT is only about 7 degrees above ambient temps...this is the same for any CAI. Stopped however, the CAI probably has a slight advantage.
If the Cobb cold air box is anything like the BEGi cold air box, then you will have a great product. Driving around yesterday with my BEGi in 100 degree weather, I was really impressed with the intake temps. Of course they went up at idle, but under acceleration and cruising, I notice 5 to 10 degrees cooler then the ambient temp. This was measured with my DashHawk.
whitey4311
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I see your point but I am guessing even a SRI sucking hot air is better then a stock air box. I would say the first step is to get more air then second how to get it colder.
I don't have a dashawk or anything fancy like such but judging from butt dyno and 1/4 times the SRI works awesome the way it is. Don't get me wrong I'll be one of the first to buy the Cold Air Box for it but I doubt it's going to give us anything more than 1-3 whp. I think it'll look pretty sweet in the engine bay plus makes everything look more complete judging by posted photos.
base on my DH, yeah the IAT can get hotter than a mother while sitting in a drive-thru waiting for a burger, but once you get moving temps drop quick, same goes for the intercooler. I don't think heatsoak is a big issue, only if your sitting there for over 8mins or so. You never sit that long at a stop light. After a couple of minutes at idle, temps only go up couple of degrees.
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Not sure how the COBB SRI Box is designed but that opening in the front corner of the grill seems ideal for an inlet leading to the box and providing fresh intake air from the outside, almost like a ram air effect.
I also wonder if adding a small cooling fan to the side of the box would be a good way of keeping the idle intake air temps stable. I am sure that idea will be flamed but I am sure a small fan wired in would help a little bit
I also wonder if adding a small cooling fan to the side of the box would be a good way of keeping the idle intake air temps stable. I am sure that idea will be flamed but I am sure a small fan wired in would help a little bit
I think that's actually a decent idea. I might make my own and see how it works..
Super Unique
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I should be getting mine before the end of the week.
Looking forward to installing my short shifter and engine mount tonight.
Looking forward to installing my short shifter and engine mount tonight.
