Caster, Camber, Toe

[cjstringer]

Ok, just wondering if anyone has messed with these for autocrossing yet and has some good starting points. I was thinking about 1/8in camber to get started. I still get a pretty hefty push/understeer, and am considering the caster at the same time.
If anyone has any thoughts or recommendations, it would be greatly appreciated.
I know it will cause uneven tire wear in the long run, but during the summer I'm gonna be racing a lot anyway. There was a guy with an S-10 (truck) today at the autocross that has been racing it for a few years. He had everything aligned into his truck, and took second in H-stock in a class of I think 5 or 6. He's a damned good driver also.
Just wondering! again, any help appreciated.

 

[Antoine]

Sidenote...Sig from "Office Space" right?

LoL...great movie

 

[chdesign]

There is no really good way to adjust camber/caster on our car without getting the full JIC magic setup.

 

[cjstringer]

eww, not an option to run stock class. I can get a shop to dial it in for me though, right?

 

[chdesign]

With the JIC yes you can....but the stock not really...i think there might be .5 degree of adjustment in the stock suspension. you may be able to get just the pillow ball mounts and adjust that way but thats really your only option I know of.

 

[cjstringer]

So we really don't have much room to move them, eh? That sucks. This pontiac sunfire I was running with this weekend had some serious camber and toe out also. His car was sweet for handling. stiff as a board and very nimble.
I am so jealous. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do something before Nationals so I can get a little better. Those damned Neon ACRs are fast as all hell.

 

[APEXistud]

I'm pretty sure you can get a shop to dial it in, but where would you make the adjustments and to what extent are you doing it. I remember reading in Grass Roots that they felt that MP3 could use a little more negative camber in the rear. I don't know how that would make the MP3 handle on a course, but if Grass Roots says it, I'm willing to try it.

 

[cjstringer]

I really don't need the rear to stick better. Actually, I'd like the rear end to come around a little easier in spots. The rear end could stand to be a little looser if you ask me. I just want less understeer. I would play with the front myself.

 

[APEXistud]

I think SR motorsports sell a larger rear sway bar. A larger rear sway would give you a little bit more over steer. Not sure how much though.

 

[Gyre]

The SR Motorsports is a 19mm sway bar. Mazda Motorsports has a 19m one, too. The 21mm is "coming soon."