car goes boom(pics)

[djthom]

after reviewing all the mods people do to these cars and blow the motor, I think the best turbo upgrade is the rebuilt turbo from protoge garage here's why, 1. it looks O.E.M. when you go to the dealer 2. you spool up faster and run stock boost 3. bigger turbos spool up late, so if you wanna run someone you gotta wait and do a roll from 80mph lol, what if you went to the track? you'll probably hit boost at the finish line, and your spending like a 1000.00 more.

What?! let's not exaggerate too much now...

Ok... So a BOV, Exhaust, & a CAI shouldn't cause a catastrophe right?

you are screwed!

Maybe i'm in denial when I say this..

I think there are a lot more happy MS3 owners with light mods than unhappy, disgruntled MS3 owners with heavy mods that blew their engines.

I've said it in the past, I don't think this car was made to mod for heavy power. It's a handling car, with liveable power on a day to day basis.

Each thread I read about disaster striking, makes me enjoy the car more and more for what it's worth and what it's capable of. And considering the fact i'm looking to keep it for the long term, i'm going to try and ignore these turbo'd videos on youtube..it's hard to resist lol.

Sorry to hear about your troubles OP! Good luck selling everything at a loss and trading the car in at a loss. (Not tryin to be a dick about it..)

so let me get this straight, people with working cars are happy and people with broken ones aren't? Brilliant!

and yeah you may not have tried to be a dick but guess what...dick


To the OP, if you get this fixed under warranty, you sir are GOOD!

To the Mazda warranty guy, Please help me I am a Nigerian prince.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

so let me get this straight, people with working cars are happy and people with broken ones aren't? Brilliant!

and yeah you may not have tried to be a dick but guess what...dick

Well, the perspective I was coming from is, there are a lot more working MS3's out there than MS3's just flat out blowing up. It was meant to be encouraging rather than ignorant.

Atleast I was being blunt about the fact of losing half on mods. You didn't have to be a dick calling everyone out. But whatever floats your boat.

 

[blackmica08]

once i get my car back with the new engine i will post pictures of it for all of the haters, the fact is im not paying for the new engine and im not posting either in which dealer im going to, if someone locally had a similar problem please feel free to pm me, when they put the car on the lift there were pieces of the aluminum block and the piston pin resting on the black plastic cover under the car. also i wasnt beating on the car when it happened, believe it or not.

 

[jbiird317]

once i get my car back with the new engine i will post pictures of it for all of the haters, the fact is im not paying for the new engine and im not posting either in which dealer im going to, if someone locally had a similar problem please feel free to pm me, when they put the car on the lift there were pieces of the aluminum block and the piston pin resting on the black plastic cover under the car. also i wasnt beating on the car when it happened, believe it or not.

ok so agreed that you maybe were not abusing the car when the damage happened, but blaming the car is just dumb when you consider the previous stress this engine was under. When you mod a car, you assume the risk that something catastrophic may occur.

In this case (supposedly) mazda is bailing you out, but in my opinion, you cannot blame their design. I havent heard of anyone with a stock motor or even light mods snapping rods and blowing a hole in the block (unlike the msp lol), you changed mazda's design and clearly created a stress on the engine that it could not withstand, and now you face the consequences. We wish you luck in whatever car you decide to go with next, but maybe this is a lesson in supporting big power mods like this with forged internals?

 

[SuperStretch18]

...all this bashing on the ms3 ... i don't visit the other forums but how about the cx-7 and ms6? It has the same motor, does it have the same bashing and problems. If it doesn't , then that just dumb this bash this car and call it a pos.

No catastrophic engine failures for CX-7's that I've heard of yet, but there also aren't people throwing bigger turbos on either. Looking at the OP's mod list, I can almost guarantee that there aren't ANY CX-7's as modded as this MS3.

I absolutely believe the OP when he says that he wasn't pushing the engine when it blew, but that doesn't mean the damage wasn't already done. It's like a pickle jar (stay with me here). You huff and puff trying to get the thing open for ten minutes, hand it to your girlfriend and she opens it no problem. That doesn't mean that the pickle jar was easy to open, just that the work done earlier was what got the job done.

That might not make sense, but whatever... (beer)

 

[blackmica08]

ok so agreed that you maybe were not abusing the car when the damage happened, but blaming the car is just dumb when you consider the previous stress this engine was under. When you mod a car, you assume the risk that something catastrophic may occur.

In this case (supposedly) mazda is bailing you out, but in my opinion, you cannot blame their design. I havent heard of anyone with a stock motor or even light mods snapping rods and blowing a hole in the block (unlike the msp lol), you changed mazda's design and clearly created a stress on the engine that it could not withstand, and now you face the consequences. We wish you luck in whatever car you decide to go with next, but maybe this is a lesson in supporting big power mods like this with forged internals?

two weeks ago i went to that same dealer to have my oil change, i had my own oil, and i usually go straight to the back cause everyone knows me there and went i step in the shop there was a blue cosmic speed with a blown engine, complely stock, cylinder 4 failure, car had 3500 miles.

 

[BOOSTR]

Stock or modified is immaterial. Its how long and how hard you push it, especially when you are driving around with an effective compression ratio of 21.77:1 (19psi on 9.5:1 in Miami).

 

[jbiird317]

well you must be right and everyone else wrong then, this car is a piece of crap, anyone wanna buy mine?

 

[714ms3]

I agree with the fact that you may have not been working the car when the failure occurred, but consider how long you had the mods on, and how you drove it in-between. It was an accident waiting to happen.
I am just unsure as to why you won't post the name of the dealership. You should have nothing to hide from us, and should want to share that kind of information to help us out. If you choose not to, well sir you are then guilty of not only stupidity, but also mass-douchebagness.

 

[blackmica08]

well you must be right and everyone else wrong then, this car is a piece of crap, anyone wanna buy mine?

did i said everyone here is wrong no, i might said out of frustration that the car is pos which i know is not, but im pretty sure that theres is a flaw in the ms3 engine.

 

[Kain]

It's like a pickle jar (stay with me here). You huff and puff trying to get the thing open for ten minutes, hand it to your girlfriend and she opens it no problem. That doesn't mean that the pickle jar was easy to open, just that the work done earlier was what got the job done.

If it makes you feel better.

 

[SuperStretch18]

If it makes you feel better.

Hey...

The fact that my GF is built like a linebacker doesn't mean anything...

 

[mckraut]

I am just unsure as to why you won't post the name of the dealership. You should have nothing to hide from us, and should want to share that kind of information to help us out.

Agreed, why not share the name of this godsend of a dealership? I'm sure people living around you would like to know where they can take their car and not get shafted for having mods. I know the dealership I bought my car from has turned down 3 requests for replacement of blown turbos. If I lived near you, I'd want to know about this shop as well. Hell, with the kind of customer service you're receiving from them, you should make a thread filled with praise in your regional section's forum.

 

[speed1016]

No sweat its covered right? Everyone is guilty of typing stupid s*** out of frustration. Good luck

 

[Speed3Rookie]

IMHO I don't think it would be a good idea to post the name of the dealership in question. If Mazda warranty reps do indeed monitor these sites he would be exposed so if he was a mod friendly dealer this would no longer be the case.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

If the Warranty Police are on here he is already screwed. It would not be hard to find a dealership in Florida with a complete engine replace going on and then "stop" by to check out the work and see the mods attached. I wouldnt have posted this at all until it was all said and done...

 

[specvspeedfreak]

I don't think he should say the name of the dealership either. For one he is obviously being hooked up, so why Jeopardize his chances of this or future hook ups when the dealer can get in deep sh!! for?
but...
but Blackmica- your some idiot though.lol.. why even post this? ... it makes you look so stupid..

 

[SuperStretch18]

God, get off the guy's back. If your car blew (collectively "your", not anyone in particular), you'd all be pretty pissed too. Shame on him for trying to share his experience I guess. I agree that he came off a little rough calling the car a POS, but let it go. He has.

Regardless if this was his fault or Mazda's or the f'n tooth fairy's, the more information that we all have, the better to figure out where the line in the sand is for the MS3 (and by virtue of that, my car! ). Hope everything works out...

Definitely don't call out the dealer who's helping you, BTW. Wait until you are covered...

 

[jbiird317]

God, get off the guy's back. If your car blew (collectively "your", not anyone in particular), you'd all be pretty pissed too. Shame on him for trying to share his experience I guess. I agree that he came off a little rough calling the car a POS, but let it go. He has.

Regardless if this was his fault or Mazda's or the f'n tooth fairy's, the more information that we all have, the better to figure out where the line in the sand is for the MS3 (and by virtue of that, my car! ). Hope everything works out...

Definitely don't call out the dealer who's helping you, BTW. Wait until you are covered...

you are right, we need to keep things civil. Everyone would be upset if this happened to them, who is to blame doesnt really matter, lets just see how this ends up before we judge. (this isnt a retraction of my previously stated opinion, but an effort to keep people off this guys back)

 

[Kain]

innanets.