Cams and Cam gears

[mp3moose]

Would it be realistic to think that installing the jspec cams and tripoint's cam gears could gain 10 whp?

I read some old threads that indicate that this is possible....has anyone done this?

Cheers,
Moose

 

[perfworks]

Would it be realistic to think that installing the jspec cams and tripoint's cam gears could gain 10 whp?

I read some old threads that indicate that this is possible....has anyone done this?

Cheers,
Moose

with cam gears probably

 

[mazdadan]

With the already advanced timing of the MP3, I doubt you will see much improvement. The ECU will probably freak out when it sees the cam gears. I wonder if Tripoint put sensors on their cams so that the stock cam timing sensor can read them properly?

 

[perfworks]

With the already advanced timing of the MP3, I doubt you will see much improvement. The ECU will probably freak out when it sees the cam gears. I wonder if Tripoint put sensors on their cams so that the stock cam timing sensor can read them properly?

hhmmmm?

 

[DooMer_MP3]

With the already advanced timing of the MP3, I doubt you will see much improvement. The ECU will probably freak out when it sees the cam gears. I wonder if Tripoint put sensors on their cams so that the stock cam timing sensor can read them properly?

They did. chdesign tried them out and noted that the exhaust cam wasn't originally correct (the sensor did not work), but apparently TriPoint has rectified the problem with the exhaust cam gear.

 

[mazdadan]

They did. chdesign tried them out and noted that the exhaust cam wasn't originally correct (the sensor did not work), but apparently TriPoint has rectified the problem with the exhaust cam gear.

Awesome, so maybe this maybe be a mod to consider after all. I'm sure us P5 and ES'rs will benefit.

 

[KYREDP5]

I've also been thinking of such a thing....Only there are no dyno's around here to properly tune them.

 

[DooMer_MP3]

Well we need to remember: The MP3 has advanced IGNITION timing, which is different from VALVE timing. So a P5, ES, MP3 should see benefits from cam gears which affect valve timing. Am I correct???

Chris

 

[mp3moose]

Makes sense. Would a group buy be a possiblity? If so, I could try and set one up.
Cheers,
Moose

 

[perfworks]

Well we need to remember: The MP3 has advanced IGNITION timing, which is different from VALVE timing. So a P5, ES, MP3 should see benefits from cam gears which affect valve timing. Am I correct???

Chris

the cam gears will help any engine design if the manufacturer did not set it for perameters in a particular rpm range for the stock cams. ignition timing will only add to the benefit once other mods if any are made.
remember the key is to keep PEAK CYLINDER PRESSURES after top dead center.
it also matters if you are talking about N/A or forced induction

 

[herarety]

Makes sense. Would a group buy be a possiblity? If so, I could try and set one up.
Cheers,
Moose

I think we'd have to see proven results before you could get much interest.

 

[mp3moose]

True...just throwing out an idea