bypassing the clutch

[ssinstaller]

overall i would like to start the car without pressing down the clutch and then drive the car as normal. the reason for this, is i would like to buy a remote starter system for my car. this is why i just want to start the car without the clutch. i dont leave the gear in first even when parked so having the car fly off without a driver is not a problem.

so for those of you who are actually helping me and not trying get over on every person who posts, where exactly is this plate? thanks (gtfo)

There are two switches on the clutch pedal. Just take the two wires plugged into the upper switch and connect them togeather(the wires should be 12~14 guage). The lower switch is for the cruise control, so don't mess with it.

 

[RyanJayG]

its easy... its just two wires that get connected together when the clutch is depressed.... jump them together, and voila... I've done this for my remote start too... I just make sure I ALWAYS park in neutral with the e-brake on

 

[djltoronto]

There are two switches on the clutch pedal. Just take the two wires plugged into the upper switch and connect them togeather(the wires should be 12~14 guage). The lower switch is for the cruise control, so don't mess with it.

2 things... one on topic, one off...

1. Wouldnt the most proper way of doing this clutch safety switch bypass be to install a relay in place to bypass the clutch only when the remote starter is being used? Thereby letting the clutch safety switch work as normal when starting the car with the key, and bypassing the clutch safety switch only when the car is started VIA the remote starter? This is how I hooked it up on my last car!

Starting the car in gear should NEVER be a problem if you buy a remote starter designed for a standard car; they will have provisions in place the make it next to impossible to start the car in gear.

i.e. When parking the car, the system has to be armed, (by pressing the start button on the remote while the car is still running), once this is done, the car would continue to run for about 5 seconds after the last door was closed (meaning you must have left the car in neutral). The system would be disabled if any door in the car was opened before you try to start VIA the remote.

This is just one of the methods I've seen that differentiates a remote car starter for a standard car from one made for an automatic car.


2. off topic, but why would there be a second switch on the clutch pedal related to cruise? I know the car needs to know if it is taken out of gear while cruising, but it seems to know already!
I HAVE taken my car out of gear while using cruise without pressing the gas or the brake, and cruise was almost instantaneously disabled. (RPM's jumped from about 2700 to 2800 and then cruise was automatically disabled)
Just curious if this is an extra safety measure?

 

[Mz3_4u2nv]

is it the two wires you immediately see when you go under there? the wires i am talking about are connected to a white plug that plugs into another big grey and blue item? it seems to me that if this is it, the switch is pressed when the clutch is up and the switch is let go when the clutch is pressed.

 

[ssinstaller]

2 things... one on topic, one off...

1. Wouldnt the most proper way of doing this clutch safety switch bypass be to install a relay in place to bypass the clutch only when the remote starter is being used? Thereby letting the clutch safety switch work as normal when starting the car with the key, and bypassing the clutch safety switch only when the car is started VIA the remote starter? This is how I hooked it up on my last car!

You can use a relay, but because the 3 has a second switch to disable the cruise control, it's not really necessary.

Starting the car in gear should NEVER be a problem if you buy a remote starter designed for a standard car; they will have provisions in place the make it next to impossible to start the car in gear.

i.e. When parking the car, the system has to be armed, (by pressing the start button on the remote while the car is still running), once this is done, the car would continue to run for about 5 seconds after the last door was closed (meaning you must have left the car in neutral). The system would be disabled if any door in the car was opened before you try to start VIA the remote.

This is just one of the methods I've seen that differentiates a remote car starter for a standard car from one made for an automatic car.

Finding a remote starter designed to work on a manual transmission is getting to be very hard, most manufacturers are not willing to accept the liability. Any extra steps necessary to engage a remote starter made for a manual transmission can, and will most likely be bypassed by a DIY installer(or they just leave it in auto mode). The only truly safe way to install a remote start on any vehicle is to hook up the neutral safety wire(most manual transmissions won't have one). Luckily, the mazda 3 manaul transmission does have a neutral safety wire, it is black/orange (-) and is found at the ECM under the hood, in the plug clostest to the firewall.

2. off topic, but why would there be a second switch on the clutch pedal related to cruise? I know the car needs to know if it is taken out of gear while cruising, but it seems to know already!
I HAVE taken my car out of gear while using cruise without pressing the gas or the brake, and cruise was almost instantaneously disabled. (RPM's jumped from about 2700 to 2800 and then cruise was automatically disabled)
Just curious if this is an extra safety measure?

I don't really know, but it's possible it's there incase the neutral safety switch in the transmission ever fails.

is it the two wires you immediately see when you go under there? the wires i am talking about are connected to a white plug that plugs into another big grey and blue item? it seems to me that if this is it, the switch is pressed when the clutch is up and the switch is let go when the clutch is pressed.

I'm not sure which switch your talking about. The lower switch has smaller wires ~18 guage, the wires you need to get to are about 6 inches above the lower switch and they are not easy to get too.

 

[RyanJayG]

Finding a remote starter designed to work on a manual transmission is getting to be very hard, most manufacturers are not willing to accept the liability. Any extra steps necessary to engage a remote starter made for a manual transmission can, and will most likely be bypassed by a DIY installer(or they just leave it in auto mode). The only truly safe way to install a remote start on any vehicle is to hook up the neutral safety wire(most manual transmissions won't have one). Luckily, the mazda 3 manaul transmission does have a neutral safety wire, it is black/orange (-) and is found at the ECM under the hood, in the plug clostest to the firewall.

as does the protege, and its what I used for a starter lockout. the sensor/wire would have to fail, AND I would have to be a total brain dead idiot (parking my car in gear, which I never do) for my car to roll on starting... besides, I always set the e-brake, which will pretty much prevent the car from moving anyways, even if it is in gear from an idle.

 

[mobomelter]

i just read a story recently about a woman who had a remote start in her manual car. (no idea what car) and that somehow the button got pressed by accident while the car was in gear, and the car proceded to drive across the street into someones living room. i'm trying to find the link.

 

[tgv121281]

I could see the car starting in gear and then hopping forward about 5feet into whatever was in front...BUT wouldnt it stall immediately thereafter??? And I was thinking maybe it could roll afterwards...BUT its IN GEAR....so of course it could be serious problems but driving itself???

Am I way off here???

 

[mobomelter]

my car will keep going in first gear without actually pressing the gas pedal.

 

[CGCG04]

yeh i can leave my car in first and it will go by itself...kinda like when an auto is in drive and u dont press the brake

 

[mobomelter]

i can do it in 2nd too as long as there isn't a hill. although it will stall.

 

[tgv121281]

exactly my point...it will stall

 

[mobomelter]

yes it will stall..... in 2nd. in 1st it will keep going as long as there isn't a steep incline.

 

[pingdum]

It seems to me if you use that clip that you have an active circut going 24/7. Won't this burn something out.

 

[djltoronto]

It seems to me if you use that clip that you have an active circut going 24/7. Won't this burn something out.

No, the clip will not burn anything out!

It is not an active circuit. A signal only passes through that switch when the key is in the START position. (Or when a remote starter tries to start the car)