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Another thing is there are some people saying "universal" turbo kits I have one thing to say about that

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I once wanted to pain my white mustang to have black doors and a roof and put police lights on it....we all think of moronic things in our youth.
 
WOW....just wow, for one thing a fmic is just what it implies, a front mounted intercooler, so yeah there is room enough for this behind the fascia and not under the hood/ that would be a tmic which btw the tmic is inferior to an fmic in respects to heat soaking, secondly with stock internals with proper open loop afr and fueling management, larger injectors and tune a safe bet would be 7psi depending on the actual power adder's spec (trim and ar), with a gt28 for instance this would output wheel horsepower of about 220-230 depending on which type of dyno it was ran on, but then you run into the limitations of the transmission, there are a few sedans out there that totally eat any stock or even modified ms3 alive, third to swap a disi mzr engine into a sedan is both impractical and stupidly exspensive, when you can take an mzr block and build the low end with forged internals, better head gasket and fasteners (ARP) with a good fueling solution (inline walbro 255 with controller) to adequately keep enough rail pressure for the upgraded fuel injectors to do there job in open loop....4th people who don't know wtf they are talking about should not say ANYTHING at all or be guilty of passing off bogus information.

By the way I run a 08 sedan that is a full on reliable daily driver that outputs +400whp, using a ms3 6spd transmission....I actually happen to know a little bit about what is possible, practical, and the difference between someone pulling hypothetical bs from out their arse and fact.
 
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Pictures of what, receipts, the actual parts which would be hard to do because they are in the car, or dyno sheet....even if I decided to spend the time to post up this proof you want I doubt most on here could make heads or tales of it---it is not like what I claim is unheard of if the person who is putting the engine package together knows wtf they are doing.....but yeah I' trolling....I couldn't help but say something when I came upon this thread and read through it and saw all of the mis informed 'expert' opinions being thrown around, the op asked a legitimate question and evidently the people who replied with " 0 psi BUY A MS3" have no experience and gave a canned answer- then onward to even comtemplating a disi mzr swap into a sedan which is at the very least retarded because it would cost MUCH more in both money and time then to build a regular mzr and in the end the built regular mzr would net a larger power output, plus the added complications of an entirely different fuel delivery system, all of the components that would have to be carried over from an actual ms3....at that point you would be better off trading your car in for a actual ms3.....to the best of my knowledge such a swap has never been done...
Tell you what mid April I' am going in to do some upgrades and get my car ready for the summer track season, I 'll make sure I get a print out of the dyno sheet and post it up for you so you can chew on it and try not to choke....lol truth/fact equals trolling/odd concept-
no wonder why this forum is considered the bottom of heap of mazda forums
 
Lol Goodness. This forums is full of tightwads.
I was joking. I just meant pictures of your car.
Looks like there is no room for joking on these forums.
 
I can make a run-on sentence too because if you just throw a comma in whenever you want, it doesn't have to be as annoying to read, even though I never start a new paragraph, I can still get the point accross that its worth it to complain about how bad a forum is by ironically posting in that forum about a car that I have that I can totally prove I have even though none of you on here know who I am, I can be superman if I want to be and no one is the wiser but hey, ill just post up a lot of information that I googled earlier anyway, I have friends, stop joking on the internets the internets are seriousnessly
 
Youch. If this the bottom of the heap as far as forums go then the crickets I hear on a couple of other MZ3 sites must be in my head. Before I comment on the other banter I will re-read the entire thread. The last to pages must have needed some sarcasm font.
 
Yeah. My "yelling" and exclamation marks should be read in said sarcastic manner. Lol.

Oh whoops. I didn't really "yell".
 
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I can make a run-on sentence too because if you just throw a comma in whenever you want, it doesn't have to be as annoying to read, even though I never start a new paragraph, I can still get the point accross that its worth it to complain about how bad a forum is by ironically posting in that forum about a car that I have that I can totally prove I have even though none of you on here know who I am, I can be superman if I want to be and no one is the wiser but hey, ill just post up a lot of information that I googled earlier anyway, I have friends, stop joking on the internets the internets are seriousnessly

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so that my ROFL isn't lower-cased.


Also.
Don't boost your 3. Buy a MS3. It's cheaper, faster, quicker, and everything that Supports says it isn't.
 
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I will disagree. I don't think a speed3 would be cheaper. If the OP owns their 3 then all they have to pay out for is a proper build and the turbo kit. Even if they don't own the car outright I would think that they would have less invested in turbo build on the n/a engine. From what I have read from the boosted 3 people they make more power more reliably. Of course that is their opinion and you know what is said of opinions. Like assholes, everybody has one and some of them really stink. Like any other mod on a car, if want to do it go ahead and do it and to hell with what anbody else says.
 
in all seriousness, i think that putting a turbo in the na mazda3 sedan would be more about "unique" and less about "financially feasable." and in order to be fair, it's important to compare apples to apples. once you start going into "well a brand new ms3 costs $X and a used sedan costs $X while a turbo kits costs $X" then it's no longer a fair asessment

so here we go. according to KBB, lets look at suggested retail values for excellent condition, same mileage mazda3's. they are both GTs, one is a sedan, the other a mazdaspeed

the used sedan comes to $16.3 while the speed comes to $19.8. so, now you say you have $3.5 to play with to essentially make your sedan more cost effective than buying an ms3

kit-wise, the tri-point kit on st. unit costs $3,999. hmm. so you're already $500 over your budget of making a "cost effective" sedan version of a speed3. and the kit is yeilding about 240hp and 240lb/ft of torque. thta's probably close to the wheel numbers of a stock speed3, about 10% drivetrain loss from the bhp of 263, and 280lb/ft of torque

well...you have the power close, while still going over budget. but really, it is still nothing like the speed. if all you want to do is overpower a speed during a 1/4 mile race, well maybe just another set of tires will help you. other than that, it won't have any of the handling or braking ability that the speed ALREADY HAD. unless you want to spend money on a new suspension setup, tires and wheels, brakes, all sorts of stability components like sway bars, etc. i won't price that stuff out to compare

now you have speed3 sedan. congrats, you just spent all that money to have a mazdaspeed3 sedan. considering that you did it all yourself, or with hookups so you get free labor, im sure it was cost effective. hey guess what, i can fit a 50'' tv in my speed3!

it just don't make sense to me to do all that
 
Oakland, I appologize. After you show the math I see that it would be dumb to boost a 3. If you want a boosted sedan though you have no choice. Get a good-er-er job and a sugar momma/daddy lol !!!
 
i still think that it would be best to just find an engine and swap. i could sell my 06 3 for lets say 8g, which means i need to find another 8 or so to get a low(er) mileage speed3. thats a lot of money.

OR i could build the internals and buy a turbo kit which would cost that same said amount of thousands of dollars.

OR i could find someone with a wrapped speed3 on the boroughs of the interwebs and buy the engine/tranny for say 4g and turn around and sell my 2.3 n/a for like 2g or so. it would be a cheaper option just to have that little extra bit of fun to play with.

but hey, to each their own with that s***. im just saying, i am in the midst of trying to trade engine and tranny straight up with a kid, maybe throw him a few bucks, since hes gonna turn around and sell his car anyway once he gets his new engine. (shrug)
 
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