before/after rear fender roll pics? anyone?

[builthatch]

a while back some of you might remember that i installed eibach 15mm type 4 spacers with the stock wheels. the stance looks incredible, however, over the span since i've had them installed i've noticed that there are a few bumps in my travels that if i'm at speed, and turning right in any capacity, there is a portion of the front of the driver side rear fender that hits the tire a bit. it pulls the inner lip out and makes it even more vulnerable to getting hit with the tire again. it also pulls a little bit off of the tire.

i've successfully pushed the piece back in place with some heat and a nylon brush handle, but it's happened twice and i think the combination of my weight, plus turning and making a bit of body roll, PLUS the bump is making this something that has to be addressed ASAP.

so, i am going to stop over at a trusted place and have them look to see about rolling my fenders. i'd do it myself but i'm willing to pay these guys as i know they have alot of experience.

has anyone else had this issue with the front of the rear fender hitting the outer portion of the tire a bit in certain situations? if you are looking at the driver side rear wheel, the spot would be at like 10:00 or 10:30...in that range. and, it only happens on the one side which makes total sense because i'm alone most of the time in my car (we take my wife's car or the dog's montero most of the time)

also, any pics of the finished product would be welcomed. i'm curious how much in terms of radius the rolling goes, typically.

thanks.

 

[J-Villa]

sub'd. I want to see before and afters too.

 

[STRICK-]

i had this very same thing happen over big bumps in the interstate. I had my rears hammered flat and pulled a lil' at the bodyshop though. I have complete clearence now on the same bumps that gave me hell before. Here is a pic of the rear passenger side after it was done. ill have more pics this weekend.

 

[builthatch]

now that's what i'm talkin' about!

no wavyness or cracking?

i don't think i need to pull them at all, but i do think that i need to somehow push the inner lips up and in, like, at a very slight angle- nothing crazy.

i took the car to a local trusted place and they were not happy with the prospects of rolling the inner lips. they were very worried about it cracking.

this is a pain!

 

[lutexas]

I installed a set of 235/45/18 in 18x8.5 rims.

the rear left tire hit the bumper so I took my car to the body shop to roll the fenders.

They didn't rolled because it is not made of plastic, so they cut it and now is like 5 mm thick.

I haven't gone through any bumps yet so I haven't really test if this will work.
I have no pictures yet.

 

[CnoTataymo]

Damn, 235/45's? I wonder how that looks like compared to my 225/45's on stockers.

 

[STRICK-]

now that's what i'm talkin' about!

no wavyness or cracking?
Nope, they repainted my quarter panels too. Its inevitable that the paint is going to crack some no matter the method, even with heat applied. I had mine rolled slightly prior to this, but it wasnt enough. So the body shop just beat them flat and refinished the edge. I am lowering my BCs down some more when i get some free time too

i don't think i need to pull them at all, but i do think that i need to somehow push the inner lips up and in, like, at a very slight angle- nothing crazy.
I did this with a "baseball bat roll" and i had the same results prior to doing any work at all on them(paint cracked too..). Granted, mine is a +35et and your is a +37et, its close enough to where theyll need the same type of clearence

i took the car to a local trusted place and they were not happy with the prospects of rolling the inner lips. they were very worried about it cracking.
At least they were honest with you about it instead of trying to cover it up

this is a pain!

Good luck, and hopefully this helps you some

 

[builthatch]

Good luck, and hopefully this helps you some

thanks for the response.

so, they repainted the entire 1/4 or just the edges?

 

[STRICK-]

thanks for the response.

so, they repainted the entire 1/4 or just the edges?

they painted the whole panel, they said blending it would have looked crappy

 

[J-Villa]

With as brittle as the paint on these cars seems, I can understand having the cracking. Did the shop match your paint nice strick-?

I run 235/45R18's on stock rims, But i'm in the process of saving for some 18x8 Rotas, along w/ my planned coilovers, I might need to look into rolling in the future...

 

[builthatch]

they painted the whole panel, they said blending it would have looked crappy

yeah, it'd essentially be a spot blend i guess; that could be a problem; )

doing the entire 1/4, they still have to blend, but WAY out. that is alot of work for fender rolling!

glad it worked out though ; )

 

[madvillian]

have you checked that pinch weld (or whatever you want to call it) where the bumper attaches to the quarter panel inside the fender well? after going from a 245/35 back to my stock 215/45's with my spacers and the added sidewall, my tire is now catching on that piece thats sticking out. im going to track down a little electric saw this week and trim it down some more.

when i have the wheels and tires off i will take some pictures of my fenders. aside from that spot, if you want to roll the inner lip (the part that sticks straight out) completely flat to the inside of the outside of the fender, the paint WILL crack, lets be honest. initially, i had the inner lip bent in at a nice 45 degree angle, and the paint didnt crack, but i needed more room.

sorry i cant be of more help.. if you have some specific questions then ask and maybe i can answer better!

heres an aftershot.. this is what i had to do to get those 18x9's to fit, haha now i regret pulling them so much.. the picture makes them look kind of bumpy, in person they actually look really nice.

 

[STRICK-]

With as brittle as the paint on these cars seems, I can understand having the cracking. Did the shop match your paint nice strick-?

I run 235/45R18's on stock rims, But i'm in the process of saving for some 18x8 Rotas, along w/ my planned coilovers, I might need to look into rolling in the future...

He did a good job with the color, it looks nice. He painted both passenger doors( to repair some scratches) and both quarter panels

yeah, it'd essentially be a spot blend i guess; that could be a problem; )

doing the entire 1/4, they still have to blend, but WAY out. that is alot of work for fender rolling!

glad it worked out though ; )

yeah, it is a lot of work i guess. But i wanted it done right and didnt have to pay 1$. I traded out business with the guy, he works on my car and I take him out in one of our limos for the night(i work for a limo company). So it all worked out in the end.

 

[J-Villa]

Limo ride for a fender roll? Sounds like a good barter deal to me.


And Villian, What's up with your fender looking almost hit in wear the rear bumper meets the 1/4? It looks like you pulled them nice all the way around the quarter panel and then took a ball pin and hit it once right on that seam...

It sure looked like alot of work to get those 18x9's on your car.... so why did you ditch them?

 

[builthatch]

a friend of mine who works at mr. M car (http://www.mrmcar.com/) claims he's done a ton of rolling without issue, and on Bimmers at that (evidently their rears inner lips are hella stiff)

he is bringing his s*** down this weekend so wish me luck. i'm nervous.

 

[Nismothecat]

someone should buy a fender roller form Eastwood and ***** it out.

 

[Wastegate13]

Limo ride for a fender roll? Sounds like a good barter deal to me.


And Villian, What's up with your fender looking almost hit in wear the rear bumper meets the 1/4? It looks like you pulled them nice all the way around the quarter panel and then took a ball pin and hit it once right on that seam...

It sure looked like alot of work to get those 18x9's on your car.... so why did you ditch them?

On Villian's car, that's where the rear bumper meets the panel. You can't pull the bumper.

He mentioned financial reasons leading to him selling the 18x9's. I much prefer his spaced stock wheels to the Rotas.

 

[Yoo Shin]

have you checked that pinch weld (or whatever you want to call it) where the bumper attaches to the quarter panel inside the fender well? after going from a 245/35 back to my stock 215/45's with my spacers and the added sidewall, my tire is now catching on that piece thats sticking out. im going to track down a little electric saw this week and trim it down some more.

when i have the wheels and tires off i will take some pictures of my fenders. aside from that spot, if you want to roll the inner lip (the part that sticks straight out) completely flat to the inside of the outside of the fender, the paint WILL crack, lets be honest. initially, i had the inner lip bent in at a nice 45 degree angle, and the paint didnt crack, but i needed more room.

sorry i cant be of more help.. if you have some specific questions then ask and maybe i can answer better!

heres an aftershot.. this is what i had to do to get those 18x9's to fit, haha now i regret pulling them so much.. the picture makes them look kind of bumpy, in person they actually look really nice.

Dang, so those 18x9s really jacked up your car I really wish it didn't take such drastic measures to get them to "just" fit and then still have issues.

 

[madvillian]

Limo ride for a fender roll? Sounds like a good barter deal to me.


And Villian, What's up with your fender looking almost hit in wear the rear bumper meets the 1/4? It looks like you pulled them nice all the way around the quarter panel and then took a ball pin and hit it once right on that seam...

It sure looked like alot of work to get those 18x9's on your car.... so why did you ditch them?

wastegate said it, you cant pull the bumper out. and yes, i sold them for financial reasons. stuff got ugly at work and i needed some money quickly, sold them on the subaru forums. i really miss those rims..

someone should buy a fender roller form Eastwood and ***** it out.

i did, along with a heat gun, which is what i used, it worked great. i sold it to haltech, who is now renting it out as far as i know. contact him if you are interested, im not sure what hes charging or any of that.

Dang, so those 18x9s really jacked up your car I really wish it didn't take such drastic measures to get them to "just" fit and then still have issues.

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they didn't jack up the car! i actually think that the fenders look really good, so do others once they see it in person. it adds some width to the rear of the car and sort of balances out that fat front end. with the spacers installed now it looks even better, and i dont have to worry about flinging rocks up onto my paint! plus, i will have some room for another nice pair of wheels whenever that time may come.

 

[builthatch]

this just keeps getting more and more complicated. so i rolled the fenders. i am not sure how much i really gained, a few mm at the most i guess. the tiny issue i was having in certain rare instances is now a thing of the past. that is good, but the problem now is...there is not one tire out there in 215 that i like...at all. i actually like kumho asx quite a bit, but i don't drive my car in incliment weather really and it especially don't drive it in the winter. what i LOVE are azenis 615...they are only avail in 225/45 and are the best street tire in the world IMO.

i have 17k on my car and probably will only put another 5k on it this year; i have probably about that much left on the fronts; the rears are pretty worn out (they have seen the front twice), probably on the last 30% or so before i hit the indicators, but won't see much more wear in that 5k. so, do i really need tires? probably not, but i don't want to run them down totally before changing them.

so...that means that i'd have a total bump of 20mm if you include half of the tread width increase and my spacers. i can't tell if i got about 5mm from the rolling, it's close and remember i didn't really need any rolling to start except in one tiny spot on the driver's side in certain turning at speed while hitting a bump situations.

i guess this is what i do- get the tires and cross my fingers, and if it doesn't work take my 15mm off and do what i wanted to avoid doing in the beginning and get 10mm spacers and change the studs. a friend of mine showed me these extended thread or...extended reach lug nuts that fit in the wheel stud bore a bit and give you a couple extra turns, but i don't think they would work with 10mm spacers.

i wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to hammer out these factory studs?