AWR Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms

[aMaff]

This just made me very happy:

http://www.awrracing.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=519

And a good chunk of change cheaper than the 949Racing arms. Also has the option of full delrin bushings for a bit more $, but still cheaper than the 949 ones.

 

[Meierznutz]

Thanks for the tip... been looking into something like this for "Nadine".

 

[Travizzle21]

Noob question in 3...2...1...

How does adjusting these effect handling?

 

[aMaff]

The same way that changing your alignment any other way does... could make it better, could make it worse...

 

[Travizzle21]

The same way that changing your alignment any other way does... could make it better, could make it worse...

That's all you got for me? I told you I was a noob lol I'm still kinda confused, but I think I got it

 

[aMaff]

That's all you got for me? I told you I was a noob lol I'm still kinda confused, but I think I got it

Well, I mean just like anything there's too much of a good thing... and too little. The advantage to these is that they let you lower the car a lot. Here's my scenario:

In order to maintain proper droop and bump travel with my shorter Koni RACEs, I have to run the car fairly low or risk topping out the shocks. However, due to the camber curves caused by the rear suspension geometry, lowering the car this much creates way too much negative camber. I think at one point the MOST positive I could go was 2 degrees. That affects handling coming out of corners (not as much of the tire on the pavement) and is exasperated when the suspension is under load, and has even MORE camber. So, what these allow you to do is after lowering the car passed a certain point, dial in some more positive camber.

To fix this, we currently have a set of delrin offset bushings I had fabbed up that are adjustable. The problem is that they're a PAIN to adjust.

Unless your car's really low and you can't get the alignment where you need it, these aren't necessary.

 

[Travizzle21]

Well, I mean just like anything there's too much of a good thing... and too little. The advantage to these is that they let you lower the car a lot. Here's my scenario:

In order to maintain proper droop and bump travel with my shorter Koni RACEs, I have to run the car fairly low or risk topping out the shocks. However, due to the camber curves caused by the rear suspension geometry, lowering the car this much creates way too much negative camber. I think at one point the MOST positive I could go was 2 degrees. That affects handling coming out of corners (not as much of the tire on the pavement) and is exasperated when the suspension is under load, and has even MORE camber. So, what these allow you to do is after lowering the car passed a certain point, dial in some more positive camber.

To fix this, we currently have a set of delrin offset bushings I had fabbed up that are adjustable. The problem is that they're a PAIN to adjust.

Unless your car's really low and you can't get the alignment where you need it, these aren't necessary.

oh i see what youre saying. thank you for clearing it up. so like you said, these arent necessary unless you cant get it aligned. So theres obviously a way to adjust camber already on a car thats stock height?

 

[neriel]

Thanks for sharing the link...

 

[aMaff]

oh i see what youre saying. thank you for clearing it up. so like you said, these arent necessary unless you cant get it aligned. So theres obviously a way to adjust camber already on a car thats stock height?

The miata has fully adjustable alignment capabilities from the factory. Camber, caster and toe.

 

[Travizzle21]

The miata has fully adjustable alignment capabilities from the factory. Camber, caster and toe.

Oh ok. well thank you for putting up with my questions lol I appreciate it