AWR 19mm Rear Swaybar Installation

HoustonP5

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While researching information for a rear swaybar purchase I read a number of posts that described installation problems and other concerns. Thanks to those who shared their experiences, I approached the installation with some degree of caution and things went well. With that in mind I thought I would share my experience as well.

Concern: I had read some comments about Protege5Online having long delivery times and that customer service was slipping.

Outcome: I paid for my order last Wednesday night via PayPal. The bar arrived Thurday evening. That was even after a long holiday weekend. No complaints here. Thanks Mitch.

Concern: End link bolts are hard to remove. Tales of trashed bolts, dremel tools and trips to Autozone. One post even described brass nuts. (Yikes!)

Outcome: I first attackend these with a box end wrench. There is a lot of flex in the bar and link, and nothing would budge. Time for a bigger tool. At this point I took off the wheels for better access and used a 6 point socket with a breaker bar. A slow steady pull did the trick. Do not use an open ended wrench for these nuts. They will be trashed. By the way, these looked like cad plated steel to me. Not brass.

Concern: The bolts supplied with the kit are difficult to thread into the aluminum mounting block. There was even one report of a broken bolt.

Outcome: Again no problem here. The bolts threaded in very smoothly with no extra effort. Maybe AWR has improved their fabrication process.

The only problem that I did encounter was the end link bolt would not go into the swaybar mounting hole. That 3/8" bolt was not going to go through that 3/8" hole. I guess it had one too many coats of paint. ;) I reamed the holes with a 25/64" bit and voila, problem solved.

Overall I am very pleased. The kit included a one page instruction sheet with a sketch depicitng the proper orientation for the bar. Everything was clear.

The acid test happens this Sunday when I autocross this car for the second time. Last month was fun but the car had a serious push in the higher speed sweepers which was hurting my exit speeds. This should be a step in the right direction. (drive)
 
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very cool! i wanna know aoubt the differences. i'll post up some pics of my dead brass endlink bolts(strut side).

i was hoping to meet you at this autoX, but i have this graduation party thing for myself :rolleyes: :D

i'd rather not race on the icerink anyways. you better uphold the Mazda Protege prestige! I would have taken 1st place home with me if I raced with STF last month :cool:

Marc Gerth: 59.114 -my X class time(morning run)

Mike Spears: 59.384 -1st place in STF
 
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Well the autox Sunday went pretty much as expected. The car still pushes, but not as severely. I will eventually buy shorter end links and try the stiffer (inside) setting, but that will have to wait for new shocks. The higher loads would no doubt shear off the end link mounts from the stock shocks. The most noticeable improvement was in the slalom. The car will transition and take a set very quickly now.

My other observation is that as expected, there is less weight transfer up front. I was getting less tire rollover at the same tire pressures that I ran last month. Granted that yesterdays sealed asphalt has less grip, but I dont think that was the only factor. I reduced front tire pressures by 5 psi over the last two runs, dropping 0.9 seconds on my last run. Thats unusual for me as I typically let it all hang out and go slower. I finished second overall. It would have been third if mx3ownzj00 had been there.

The other interesting thing for me is learning to autox a front wheel drive car. Most of my experience is in Miatas where if you lift in mid corner the back end trades places with the front. With the P5 you cant get the tail to move. You also need a different line since the only way to stop the push is to unwind the wheel. That makes for some wide corner exits.

Overall a good day, and I like the bar. Next up, shocks and springs. A little negative camber is a good thing.
 
Houston: I'm glad the AWR bar made a diff.

I went STRAIGHT for the stiffer setting and it made a huge diff. let us know how that goes.
 
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Houston: I'm glad the AWR bar made a diff.

I went STRAIGHT for the stiffer setting and it made a huge diff. let us know how that goes.

Did you use the stock end links on the stiffer setting? They looked like they would be too long.
 
I used the stock endlinks on the stiffer setting. I also rotated my endlinks the other way, as per the instructions.

Note my post of you have a '03 1/2 p5
 
I just got my AWR 21mm in the mail!(woowoo)
Anyone else(rishie?;)) have any tips/concerns that I should know about before I tackle this? My AWR bar came with endlinks, so I don't think I'll have to worry about my strut-tabs. Is this correct?

Also, I'm planning on purchasing some springs in the very near future...would it be easier to wait until I get the springs and install both at the same time? Any help is much appreciated...Thanks!
 
Ya eggy,

Do your springs first and then install the bar to acheive proper preload. Or just bring it into the shop and we'll do it all.

Later, Rishie
 
If any of you don't mind. Could you please post a pic of the bar installed along with some shots of the endlink switched around.

Thanks, Rishie
 
I love this forum. Ask a question, get a professional's opinion in 5 minutes! (sniff, sniff) it's a Beautiful Thing...:'(

Thanks Rishie, You're the man!
(you've got a pm)
 
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