Attention All P5'ers!

[deckedoutmp5]

I am one of the 5% who just loves their car how it is and enjoys talking to the other 5% who also love their car as is. Last I checked this wasn't just the Protege Tuner's Forum.

If all you wanted to do was make a slow car fast, perhaps you should have bought a used geo metro. coulda saved plenty of cash for CAIs exhaust tips and nitrous.

And as I have mentioned before, the WRX is a far better candidate for racing and driving fast. By the time you finish approaching 200hp you could have owned a car that would do 227 stock and have AWD to put it on the road. But its your money, spend it how you like.

Making slow cars fast just doesn't seem like as much fun as making fast cars faster I guess.

thats funny cause there are p5s smoking wrx's asses... THATS WHY we do what we do. if you stay stock why are you posting about nitrous, go check your oil or somthing.

 

[chuyler1]

hah hah thats a good one.

You seem very defensive about this.

I'd like to see some track times of P5s smoking WRXs.

 

[deckedoutmp5]

hah hah thats a good one.

You seem very defensive about this.

I'd like to see some track times of P5s smoking WRXs.

use the search, its old news... youll find all ya need. its rare yes i will admit, but has been done. and the wrx is not a drag car its mainly for the twisties. the cobb wrx had 86 thousand dollars in it and this is the best it did... do your research

2003 Cobb Tuning Subaru Impreza WRX
Street drivability:
1/4-mile: 13.7 sec @ 102 mph
Road course: 65.4 sec
130-to-0-mph braking: 592 feet
Total course time: 128.5 sec

 

[chuyler1]

and the wrx is not a drag car its mainly for the twisties.

. . . as is the MSP. Where does that leave the P5? How about the commuter class. I was using the WRX as an example of something within reach that would out perform most P5s (apparently not all) stock. We could name dozens of cars that will out perform the P5 in the 1/4 mile but I understand that is not the point.

I read an article a while in some car magazine about a guy who took a 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro and droped a V8 from a full size Quattro sedan in it. If you know the CQ, it was a great 'twisty' car but its 5 cyl engine just wasn't enough to make the car a classic. People had talked about putting the V8 in it, some even attempted it, but this guy actually did it. It took until 10 years after they stopped producing the CQ for him to do it, but he did it.

That I see as something worth-while. But adding nitrous to a commuter car doesn't fit into that category IMO. You can't go on a country drive and say "hey man that nitrous really helps on on those hills" like you could a turbo, a super charger, or an engine transplant.

 

[deckedoutmp5]

again your missing the point, we mod our cars for fun... no matter what it is. if i had a viper venom, id still put twin SC's on it, if i had a dodge neon id put an intake and exhaust and cams... not because im the fastest out there or want to be, but why stick with stock... stock is never fun. EVERYTHING i own has been modded somehow pretty much. my jeep, drove it 2 months now its in a million pieces because im rebuilding it from the ground up to me a monster. the next project i have after i finish my 49 ford is well my zx7r that will house a zx9 built motor with a turbo and i will find a p5 body and put it on a tube frame with a tubbed rear and a built 460... see where this is goin... it dont matter WHAT IT IS, its fun and we mod and we love it. if its a motor, it needs boost, nitrous whatever. lifes to short not to have it. i am done with this thread. trav has spoken.

 

[acidbug]

I am one of the 5% who just loves their car how it is and enjoys talking to the other 5% who also love their car as is. Last I checked this wasn't just the Protege Tuner's Forum.

If all you wanted to do was make a slow car fast, perhaps you should have bought a used geo metro. coulda saved plenty of cash for CAIs exhaust tips and nitrous.

And as I have mentioned before, the WRX is a far better candidate for racing and driving fast. By the time you finish approaching 200hp you could have owned a car that would do 227 stock and have AWD to put it on the road. But its your money, spend it how you like.

Making slow cars fast just doesn't seem like as much fun as making fast cars faster I guess.

If i could fit into one of them..i would have purchased it...When i was out searching for a car...I test drove the wrx...and it's truly to small for a man like myself..i am over 6ft tall...Test drove the RSXType S..Again To Small....they didn't have the speed out yet...so i drove the p5 and it had a very nice platform...There are many protege's that are killin wrx's...Check out Linux Racer....MP3 pushing over 200hp!!! Check out Idgrasil..Pushing close to the same #'s...Don't forget AWD is great..But the Tranny Loss is more than a FWD!!

Protege5=16k 130hp
nitrous kit=500 50hp
intake=35 2.5hp
exhaust=100 2.5hp
mp3 ecu=free bee 10hp
header=$202 (will be gettin soon) 15hp
-----------------------------------------------------------
total price spent Under 17K total hp=over 200hp

That's right...Can u say...Hello 200hp..And good bye WRX!

LOL

Chas

 

[chuyler1]

I will agree with you there, I'm 6'3"

but the tranny loss is gained back in traction. . .

Personally I'd rather have RWD and a V8 if I were going to the track once a week, and save my P5 for driving back and forth to work...and knowing it will get me back and forth to work for the next 5+ years. When I buy a 'mod' car it won't be in the compact class and it certainly won't be mistaken for a grocery getter. Don't get me wrong, I love my P5 and will drive it to the ground, I just won't take it to the track.

 

[dficken]

WRX compared to Turbo p5

Just to clarify some things...

A stock WRX puts out about 168 HP and 173 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels .

A p5 with the Flyin' Protege Turbo kit on it (running 6psi) puts out about 167.5 HP and 191.5 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels.

So being that the turbo p5 has about the same amount of WHP, 20 ft-lbs of torque more at the wheels, and weighs about 450lbs lighter, it is possible that the turbo p5 can beat the WRX.

"Smoke" is a bit harsh. But then again, the other people have different kits (i.e. Highboost) that pushes out close to 200 HP at the wheels. So it is very possible especially against a stock WRX.

The only thing the WRX has under the above scenario is the launch with AWD.

Either which way, it doesn't matter. I don't race. I just want to get a turbo to add about 30-40 HP to the car. Then it will be the perfect car in my mind.

Regards,
Dale.

 

[chuyler1]

I completely understand adding a turbo, for all the reasons you stated...I think the AWD launch will have more of an effect especially against a FWD car and more so if they both have stock rubber, but thats another discussion. I mean, I get wheel hop on occasion even with 130hp.

But nitrous only gives you that boost when you use it...which is pointless, it doesn't help you on the highway, pulling out of the mini-mart, or on that country drive. It helps you for that 14 seconds on the track. Not worth the money, its like an ego boost more than anything. If you can't beat that guy in the civic, get NOS and whip his ass the next week.

 

[acidbug]

But nitrous only gives you that boost when you use it...which is pointless, it doesn't help you on the highway, pulling out of the mini-mart, or on that country drive. It helps you for that 14 seconds on the track. Not worth the money, its like an ego boost more than anything. If you can't beat that guy in the civic, get NOS and whip his ass the next week.

That's correct..Which means..that i am not beating up my car all the time like those w/ turbo's...Turbo's are a constant pressure on the vehicle..where as the nitrous is there for when i really need it!

It helps me on the highway, country drive...All i do is hit the button..how simple is that! Ego Boost...Dude..That is just some :bs:

I could kick civic's all over the block w/ out the nitrous..The nitrous is for when i got a cocky stang or wrx..that just revvin on me...and thinks that his car rules all cars....

Pointless to me..is when you purchase a car...and rag on fellow owners just b/c they could kick your ass on the 1/4 mile and in the twisties!!
Chas

 

[deckedoutmp5]

That's correct..Which means..that i am not beating up my car all the time like those w/ turbo's...Turbo's are a constant pressure on the vehicle..

hey now... a properly tuned turbo motor will last just as long if taken care of and maintained... dont be bashin the dark side.... i will be running nitrous with my boost soon... my very reachable goal is 400 reliable HP... will be about a year... i just want the nitrous to get me off the line and spool the turbo then shut off when i hit full boost..

but yeah, if you want to stay stock so be it, but dont diss others who mod. :mad:

i love cheesecake

 

[chuyler1]

I really don't think a P5 can hold 400hp on the ground but good luck to you.

 

[deckedoutmp5]

I really don't think a P5 can hold 400hp on the ground but good luck to you.

built fsz with about 25 lbs of boost and a level 10 bomb proof tranny with nitrous... and yes they sell turbo kits for the p5 that put it about 500 hp... again, do the research

 

[infrared5]

With the right amount of money you can make any car do almost whatever you want. I have a friend w/ a saturn wagon that should be breaking into 11s, anythings possible.

 

[infrared5]

With the right amount of money, effort & time you can make any car do almost whatever you want. I have a friend with a saturn wagon that should be breaking into 11s, so its very possible. Good luck desckedoutmp5, hopefully i'll give ya some friendly competition soon instead of smoking these boring stock mp5s.
ps- what size shot you using? Im using a 50 and the motor is still running extremely rich, thinking about upping to 75.

 

[deckedoutmp5]

im not running n2o yet, that will be after i build my motor and get a level 10 tranny. 400 whp will be easy to get, tuning it for street driving will be a challage... prolly idle at 1500 hehe. but hey, mans gotta do what a mans gotta do.

yeah the saturns are getting with the program. they had one at nopi running 10 flat. buddy has one he boosted also and that thing screams. some are getting honda motors in the saturns with electronic power steering, my sis bought one and its nice.

i have a 49 ford with 700 whp with a built 500 and dual TR. i just love HP... but who doesnt!?

peace- Trav

 

[Brian MP5T]

400 WHP Are You On Glue?

im not running n2o yet, that will be after i build my motor and get a level 10 tranny. 400 whp will be easy to get, tuning it for street driving will be a challage... prolly idle at 1500 hehe. but hey, mans gotta do what a mans gotta do.

yeah the saturns are getting with the program. they had one at nopi running 10 flat. buddy has one he boosted also and that thing screams. some are getting honda motors in the saturns with electronic power steering, my sis bought one and its nice.


peace- Trav

Hey, I'd like to introduce myself first so that you don't take this in a negative way. I just spent six months building a custom Turbo Kit for my MP5. No expense was spared. I am, actually running 10 Lbs of boost. The compression ratio on my engine was taken down to 7.4:1 so that I could run that boost safely. I also have a stand alone fuel management system, LSD, Forged internals, Reinforced Block, Full Front intercooler... Bla Bla Bla. 264 Ft/Lb From 130 Ft/Lb Is what I got out of all that. To say that you will get 400Hp out of your 2.0 is like me saying that I'm the king of Canada. It's fine to say, but good luck backing it up/not getting ridiculed when you say stuff to that effect.

Later ... Brian

 

[deckedoutmp5]

Re: 400 WHP Are You On Glue?

Hey, I'd like to introduce myself first so that you don't take this in a negative way. I just spent six months building a custom Turbo Kit for my MP5. No expense was spared. I am, actually running 10 Lbs of boost. The compression ratio on my engine was taken down to 7.4:1 so that I could run that boost safely. I also have a stand alone fuel management system, LSD, Forged internals, Reinforced Block, Full Front intercooler... Bla Bla Bla. 264 Ft/Lb From 130 Ft/Lb Is what I got out of all that. To say that you will get 400Hp out of your 2.0 is like me saying that I'm the king of Canada. It's fine to say, but good luck backing it up/not getting ridiculed when you say stuff to that effect.

Later ... Brian

well that kinda hurts me to know you did all that for 10 psi and thats why i run daily and im fine. prolly 250 whp with my exhaust since its straight pipe (those figures came from juan) with my setup. to get to 400 hp is not that hard. you have to go full stand alone and have the bottom end. its way way way doable, and there are kits out that will put the p5 close to 500 hp.. takes money money money time time time and tuning. your motor sounds like it has the bullet proof bottom, but im running same boost as you, you need to up the boost. even pirana is running 10 psi.... we are stock everything. i have 440 injectors coming thats it.

 

[slcp5]

flyingprotege.com an enitire turbo kit

 

[slcp5]

we all regret buying p5's

should have got the mazda speed, should have waited untill they make a mazda speed p5 or until the six wagon comes out, I'll never buy another car again unless it has s*** loads of power stock.