Any P5's faster than 16.5 @ 82mph?

[Equinox]

That's pretty much it...you'd have a low/mid 13 second miata capable of amazing track performance, providing you budgeted for tires/brake pads.



How do you figure a 150whp P5 could run 13.1? Is Spoolin' the company that claims 200whp @ 6psi? Cuz I find that to be VERY optimistic at best, stretching the truth at worst; whichever company claims that. Maybe that was HiBoost? Either way...a stock-bottomed P5 wouldn't see more than about 175-200whp before throwing rods, imo.

there are more than a few examples on this board that would claim more than 200whp

hiboost kit claims about 230whp, spoolin stage III claims about 200whp, and the BEGI claims I think 170whp

but no with SPOOL it's very efficient and easy to get 200whp FMIC'd =)

 

[Darin]

I do have one of the last not killed stock engine running the BEGI turbo kit
Hell I was at 8 PSI for several month and everyone was exploding at 6.

There ya go! That's why I doubt that one company's claim of 200whp @ 6psi or whatever. I guess it 'could' happen, but I'd wager the motor not lasting long.

The FS should be very reliable around 5-7psi...given proper fueling.

That's set up to provide 140-165whp, in my estimate, depending the the size of the turbo. That would translate to what? Low 15s? Maybe a 14.9 thrown in, for most p5s?

 

[1sty]

That's pretty much it...you'd have a low/mid 13 second miata capable of amazing track performance, providing you budgeted for tires/brake pads.



How do you figure a 150whp P5 could run 13.1? Is Spoolin' the company that claims 200whp @ 6psi? Cuz I find that to be VERY optimistic at best, stretching the truth at worst; whichever company claims that. Maybe that was HiBoost? Either way...a stock-bottomed P5 wouldn't see more than about 175-200whp before throwing rods, imo.

I fudged it a bit there.
Spoolins non intercooled system will give like 4 or 5 PSI for I thought under $3K. Hiboost is the one that is running 13.8 with there $3.5K kit at 8 PSI which has a haltech with it.
YOu would have to drop some of the other goodies for the more powerful kit.

Spoolin is the one with 4 types of kits and was the 1st Turbo MP3 out there. He also is the one working on the Full Emanage system for us and is about to release it as a plug and go system.
He is one of the more conservative estimaters on the board, so I don't think he was the one you were talking about although I believe he achieved similar numbers from his MP3 at 6 PSI do to the links system he implemented from a miata. he also has a 16G turbo not a T3.

 

[1sty]

There ya go! That's why I doubt that one company's claim of 200whp @ 6psi or whatever. I guess it 'could' happen, but I'd wager the motor not lasting long.

The FS should be very reliable around 5-7psi...given proper fueling.

That's set up to provide 140-165whp, in my estimate, depending the the size of the turbo. That would translate to what? Low 15s? Maybe a 14.9 thrown in, for most p5s?

I think thats about right, 165 hp is what FP got but I beleive the torque was over 170.

 

[Darin]

there are more than a few examples on this board that would claim more than 200whp

hiboost kit claims about 230whp, spoolin stage III claims about 200whp, and the BEGI claims I think 170whp

but no with SPOOL it's very efficient and easy to get 200whp FMIC'd =)

I'd really like to see data supporting that. I really can't imagine getting much more than about 150whp, at 5-6psi. Safely. An engine putting down 230whp, in a p5, would blow up both IT, and the tranny, in short order.

I've searched this forum for 'dyno', etc...but haven't seen ANY evidence of those 'easy to attain' 200whp P5s...Can you help me out? Point me to somebody? more than 'one' guy? etc?

Thanks!

d

 

[1FASTMP5]

the hi boost car ran 13.8 @105 and its on a stock motor w/a clutch everything else is stock even the tires were stock. the stock fs-de motor can handle over 225whp "with the right tunning"

 

[1sty]

Hiboost is 8 PSI not 6 and uses haltech management.
Stage III spoolin was dynoed I think with 8PSI aswell and you know the BEGI/FP is legit.

 

[1FASTMP5]

and the hiboost was @ 12psi not 8psi
when it ran the 13.8

 

[1sty]

"the hi boost car ran 13.8 @105 and its on a stock motor w/a clutch everything else is stock even the tires were stock. the stock fs-de motor can handle over 225whp "with the right tunning""

Keep in mind Darin is from the miata world where if the car can not sustain 80,000 miles turboed then it is not an acceptable kit. He is right that at 225 whp the P5 will not be long for this world. Getting it to 225 is one thing, keepingit stable is abother game, One good boost spike and your done!

"and the hiboost was @ 12psi not 8psi
when it ran the 13.8"

I stand corrected.

 

[1FASTMP5]

I'd really like to see data supporting that. I really can't imagine getting much more than about 150whp, at 5-6psi. Safely. An engine putting down 230whp, in a p5, would blow up both IT, and the tranny, in short order.

I've searched this forum for 'dyno', etc...but haven't seen ANY evidence of those 'easy to attain' 200whp P5s...Can you help me out? Point me to somebody? more than 'one' guy? etc?

Thanks!

d

for hiboost info go to the web site for dyno results

 

[Darin]

the hi boost car ran 13.8 @105 and its on a stock motor w/a clutch everything else is stock even the tires were stock. the stock fs-de motor can handle over 225whp "with the right tunning"

Do you have any information on the FS that HAS held 'over 225whp' for more than, I dunno...6 months? A year? I find it VERY hard to believe the OEM mazda clutch can handle enough torque to allow for power to reach 105mph in the 1/4...

 

[Darin]

for hiboost info go to the web site for dyno results

Right...they look like :bs: to me

 

[1FASTMP5]

"the hi boost car ran 13.8 @105 and its on a stock motor w/a clutch everything else is stock even the tires were stock. the stock fs-de motor can handle over 225whp "with the right tunning""

Keep in mind Darin is from the miata world where if the car can not sustain 80,000 miles turboed then it is not an acceptable kit. He is right that at 225 whp the P5 will not be long for this world. Getting it to 225 is one thing, keepingit stable is abother game, One good boost spike and your done!

"and the hiboost was @ 12psi not 8psi
when it ran the 13.8"

I stand corrected.

you both could be right, but only time will tell sence there still new kits to the market right now.

 

[Darin]

Keep in mind Darin is from the miata world where if the car can not sustain 80,000 miles turboed then it is not an acceptable kit. He is right that at 225 whp the P5 will not be long for this world. Getting it to 225 is one thing, keepingit stable is abother game, One good boost spike and your done!

EXACTLY

I could turn up my PGT to 15psi...for a few minutes. It'd be cool to have a 350whp dyno...it would not be cool to have a motor that wouldn't last 2 months.

 

[1sty]

The clutch will slip after only 160 whp, mine did. Thats why I have the Clutch master.
Spoolin is the longest running boosted Pro on a stock block but has always had full management. Originaly 6PSI, then 8 then 10, Now upwards of 12 daily and still going.

 

[1FASTMP5]

Do you have any information on the FS that HAS held 'over 225whp' for more than, I dunno...6 months? A year? I find it VERY hard to believe the OEM mazda clutch can handle enough torque to allow for power to reach 105mph in the 1/4...

please reread the quote! i said the only mod was a clutch.

 

[MacProtege5]

at the time i had catback exhaust, warm air intake, and the Japanese spec cams and ran a 16.4, now i have that plus full exhaust including the racing mazda header, short throw shifter, underdrive crank pulley, 10.7:1 high comp pistons, and some significant weight reduction, and ups just delivered my fidanza flywheel and clutchmasters stage one clutch today so thats going in this weekend

 

[1sty]

Oh and I did run 8 PSI for 6 months, stock engine and its still alive.

 

[MP5driva03]

I can tell you that I pulled a 14 flat when I ran the quarter on a steep downhill, my friend and I measured out a quarter-mile on this downhill road by where he lives; I went to the top, he sat at the bottom with a stopwatch and bottle rocket, and when the rocket lit up, I pushed it. For a car with nothing more than intake, clutch and exhaust, I think it's pretty damn good...now if only I could do that on flat ground. NOPE. Oh well.

 

[Darin]

please reread the quote! i said the only mod was a clutch.

sorry...looked excatly like w/o clutch - everything was stock.

(shrug)