Any P5's faster than 16.5 @ 82mph?

1st MP3 in NH said:
Take it witha grain of salt, he called it inferior to a 116 hp car, that is a glorified crotch rocket!.

read: "Tongue in Cheek" I'm glad at least the person I said that to (YOU! :) ) Took it the right way. :)

(shrug)
 
Darin said:
Because you don't have a scanner you can't come up w/ a trap speed or 60 ft time? How do you figure the P5 isn't inferior? Do you know me? Look dude, drop the attitude. If you wanna measure dicks, fine. Let's look at data:

1/4 Mile:
You mystical 15.9 isn't s***. Nor is my car's best, BEFORE i/h/e, of 16.5. In a drag race TODAY, you'd likely BARELY beat my miata - IF you drove your best race. I always drive within .1 of my best time. (shrug).

ANY OTHER TYPE OF RACE:
(That didn't include bringing along 4 friends ;) )
There'd be only a FEW P5s, I'd guess, who could hang w/ My Miata on a road course...Then, it'd be 'driver' more than 'car' probably...I'm a very new track driver.

So what's the deal? I simply ask for some E/T's and you take it personal?

Let it go.

He said everything is packed bro.

Darin, you need to leave the defense mechanisms on probetalk. There is no need for them there. As far as anyone knows you have a stock 93 miata, of coarse you and I know differently.
I know equinox well and he was not insulting you just defending his ride like you would.

Either way calling someones car inferior is never going to be taken well espeicaly on a sie deadicated to that car. I can easily give you and example by going to Probetalk and saying all the probes are inferior to my MP3. They very much are and in every way but that is something that has no need being said there.
 
Darin: Have you looked into the mazda6, it seems like a better choice for the 'ol lady. We have a 1/8 mile here in San Diego, my bro's protege5 ran a 10.2 with cams, intake and exhaust , rear seats taken out.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
He said everything is packed bro.

Darin, you need to leave the defense mechanisms on probetalk. There is no need for them there. As far as anyone knows you have a stock 93 miata, of coarse you and I know differently.
I know equinox well and he was not insulting you just defending his ride like you would.

Either way calling someones car inferior is never going to be taken well espeicaly on a sie deadicated to that car. I can easily give you and example by going to Probetalk and saying all the probes are inferior to my MP3. They very much are and in every way but that is something that has no need being said there.

wha?? Defense? It's his 'offense' that triggered my reply. (shrug).

I defend truth. Facts. Data. That's all. Nobody should be so insecure about their car that they can't take a little ribbing now and then.

I drive a MIATA. I put up with LOTS of BS about my 'chick car'. :)
 
Darin said:
5,000 posts? pshaw....rookie :)

:p

<-- 21,xxx posts on PT.

hehe

:D
I have 7300 and most since just Jan of this year!
Not to meniton 2000 more then anyone else here!
So there Mr. 85
:p
 
I dont' have trap speeds because I only find the quarter mile time important when people ask about it because barely enough people know what that is, and an even fewer amount know about trap speeds, and 60ft times, therefore I didn't take much note of it afterwards.

I did however take first in STF class at the last SCCA meet in houston, :D

But yeah I was just surprised that after dissing the p5 to see the quarter was 16.5. Most people that talk s*** usualy have some bulls*** srt running 13s or some spec V who hates their car so make it okay by yelling at p5ers, haha. I don't mean any hate, I love miatas, I'm just saying, don't hate on my mom wagon. =P
 
FC3s Boy said:
Darin: Have you looked into the mazda6, it seems like a better choice for the 'ol lady. We have a 1/8 mile here in San Diego, my bro's protege5 ran a 10.2 with cams, intake and exhaust , rear seats taken out.

Yeah! We love the 6s. Unfortunately, we test drove the ATX variety. The slushbox shifted rather poorly. :( The 5sp may be different. Problem is, that's a $28K car (new). :( Used? Still over $20k in these parts. We'll wanna spend ~$15K all told.
 
He said
"but I was just figuring from someone calling the p5 "inferior performer" would have somethign that would be able to kill it."

You replied with
"How do you figure the P5 isn't inferior? Do you know me? Look dude, drop the attitude. If you wanna measure dicks, fine. Let's look at data:

1/4 Mile:
You mystical 15.9 isn't s***. Nor is my car's best, BEFORE i/h/e, of 16.5. In a drag race TODAY, you'd likely BARELY beat my miata - IF you drove your best race. I always drive within .1 of my best time. (shrug).

ANY OTHER TYPE OF RACE:
(That didn't include bringing along 4 friends )
There'd be only a FEW P5s, I'd guess, who could hang w/ My Miata on a road course...Then, it'd be 'driver' more than 'car' probably...I'm a very new track driver."

See the offset.

Oh and give the P5 the same suspension mods you have and it will stay right with you. Give it a turbo and LATER!
The 2 cars are very much akin. And if you want to compare dicks, then i have to wonder about ya with that Miata and all :p
 
Equinox said:
I dont' have trap speeds because I only find the quarter mile time important when people ask about it because barely enough people know what that is, and an even fewer amount know about trap speeds, and 60ft times, therefore I didn't take much note of it afterwards.

I did however take first in STF class at the last SCCA meet in houston, :D

But yeah I was just surprised that after dissing the p5 to see the quarter was 16.5. Most people that talk s*** usualy have some bulls*** srt running 13s or some spec V who hates their care so make it okay by yelling at p5ers, haha. I don't mean any hate, I love miatas, I'm just saying, don't hate on my mom wagon =P

Right - but 16.5 is about what MOST P5s would run...and very close to what SOME P5's run. :)

;)

I love your mom wagon...going to buy one soon, I suppose. :)

Actual 1/4 mile time isn't 'that' important to me; I'm merely trying to gauge the relative 'fastness' of the car, when compared to my miata. If I want 'sorta fast' 1/4 mile times, I'd drive my PGT (best is 13.1@107), if I want 'pretty fast' I'd drive the Ninja ZX6.

:itsallgood:
 
Darin said:
Yeah! We love the 6s. Unfortunately, we test drove the ATX variety. The slushbox shifted rather poorly. :( The 5sp may be different. Problem is, that's a $28K car (new). :( Used? Still over $20k in these parts. We'll wanna spend ~$15K all told.

$28K:wtf:

The fully loaded one I wanted was $25K. That was without rebate, I got them down to $24K too.

The drive wire sucks hard in any tranny but the standard is alot better then the auto.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
He said
"but I was just figuring from someone calling the p5 "inferior performer" would have somethign that would be able to kill it."

You replied with
"How do you figure the P5 isn't inferior? Do you know me? Look dude, drop the attitude. If you wanna measure dicks, fine. Let's look at data:

1/4 Mile:
You mystical 15.9 isn't s***. Nor is my car's best, BEFORE i/h/e, of 16.5. In a drag race TODAY, you'd likely BARELY beat my miata - IF you drove your best race. I always drive within .1 of my best time. (shrug).

ANY OTHER TYPE OF RACE:
(That didn't include bringing along 4 friends )
There'd be only a FEW P5s, I'd guess, who could hang w/ My Miata on a road course...Then, it'd be 'driver' more than 'car' probably...I'm a very new track driver."

See the offset.

Oh and give the P5 the same suspension mods you have and it will stay right with you. Give it a turbo and LATER!
The 2 cars are very much akin. And if you want to compare dicks, then i have to wonder about ya with that Miata and all :p

I mis-read his reply, it looks like. I read that to be "You ran 16.5? My car could kill it"

<- a little dyslexic. :D

But, seriously...you don't want to start comparing mod'd P5s vs Mod'd Miatas...you really don't. :D

P5s handle pretty well - I know that. A friend of mine has both a miata and a P5. He can toss the p5 around corners nearly as quick as his miata. But give a $5,000 budget to BOTH cars? What do you think the outcome would be?

;)

:muchlove:
 
g'me ninja.

And 1stMP3, I remember it being some guy in the turbo forum who developed his own turbo system off I think a 16g, but ended up sellign it a while back. So when you post I get the feeling I need to ask you abotu turbos, haha
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
$28K:wtf:

The fully loaded one I wanted was $25K. That was without rebate, I got them down to $24K too.
.

And I suppose you have full visibility on the price of a 5sp 6s, new, In/around Seattle? ;)

When we looked at them this spring, MSRP, loaded was ~$28K
 
Darin said:
I mis-read his reply, it looks like. I read that to be "You ran 16.5? My car could kill it"

<- a little dyslexic. :D

But, seriously...you don't want to start comparing mod'd P5s vs Mod'd Miatas...you really don't. :D

P5s handle pretty well - I know that. A friend of mine has both a miata and a P5. He can toss the p5 around corners nearly as quick as his miata. But give a $5,000 budget to BOTH cars? What do you think the outcome would be?

;)

:muchlove:

Obviously the cars are designed for 2 very different things. However given 5K to a Miata and I have no idea what you could do. To my knowledge thats just enough for drop springs, struts and the basic FM kit.

In the P5 thats enough for Spoolin's turbo, full 2.5" exhuast, drop springs, struts, clutch, flywheel, and piggy back fuel control. With that budget you could MATCH your Probes 1/4 mile times and be a real pain in the ass on the track.
 
Darin said:
And I suppose you have full visibility on the price of a 5sp 6s, new, In/around Seattle? ;)

When we looked at them this spring, MSRP, loaded was ~$28K

I had wanted a 6S with the better looking apperance package but not the 1SE which exculded it form eveything, leather, sunroof, ect and the price with rebate was $21500.
Becuase it fell threw the dealer offered me there fully loaded 6s with the 1se package for $24,500.That was last month.
 
Equinox said:
g'me ninja.

And 1stMP3, I remember it being some guy in the turbo forum who developed his own turbo system off I think a 16g, but ended up sellign it a while back. So when you post I get the feeling I need to ask you abotu turbos, haha
I do have one of the last not killed stock engine running the BEGI turbo kit :D
Hell I was at 8 PSI for several month and everyone was exploding at 6.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
Obviously the cars are designed for 2 very different things. However given 5K to a Miata and I have no idea what you could do. To my knowledge thats just enough for drop springs, struts and the basic FM kit.

That's pretty much it...you'd have a low/mid 13 second miata capable of amazing track performance, providing you budgeted for tires/brake pads.

1st MP3 in NH said:

In the P5 thats enough for Spoolin's turbo, full 2.5" exhuast, drop springs, struts, clutch, flywheel, and piggy back fuel control. With that budget you could MATCH your Probes 1/4 mile times and be a real pain in the ass on the track.

How do you figure a 150whp P5 could run 13.1? Is Spoolin' the company that claims 200whp @ 6psi? Cuz I find that to be VERY optimistic at best, stretching the truth at worst; whichever company claims that. Maybe that was HiBoost? Either way...a stock-bottomed P5 wouldn't see more than about 175-200whp before throwing rods, imo.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
I had wanted a 6S with the better looking apperance package but not the 1SE which exculded it form eveything, leather, sunroof, ect and the price with rebate was $21500.
Becuase it fell threw the dealer offered me there fully loaded 6s with the 1se package for $24,500.That was last month.

No F'in way. That is completely unheard of here - I just looked after posting this. I found ONE 6s, 6sp around here...$25,000.

Still, even at $22,000, that's $7k more than we want to spend. :)
 
My P5 ran 16.1 @ 84 mph in the 1/4 mile...My bottle was empty..I plan on running nitrous on my next attempt!!

Chas
 

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