Another Engine goes Boom

Something else I just thought of... if that #1 cylinder had excess fuel in it...and fluids are incompressible...hmmm. That could have done in a rod bearing, rod, piston, ring land, or even bent the crank. You say it was documented that that particular cylinder was full of fuel at one point - through no fault of your own?
 
Edit - deleted my post because I think I got this thread mixed up with another one. Anyway, good luck getting Mazda to cover it - it's BS that they don't honor the warranty they made us buy.
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MrDiggler said:
Something else I just thought of... if that #1 cylinder had excess fuel in it...and fluids are incompressible...hmmm. That could have done in a rod bearing, rod, piston, ring land, or even bent the crank. You say it was documented that that particular cylinder was full of fuel at one point - through no fault of your own?
Thats what im saying... However i think they didnt document it but i know the guy who told me. Im gonna bring it to corporates attention tomorrow if they say they are gonna deny the work.
 
WEll, Let me warn you all of the over rich issue. Since our cars run richer then Richie Rich, that excess fuel will find its way into your oil. This will cause the oil to break down its viscosity ALOT faster, thus causing issues like this. :D
 
boostisgood said:
WEll, Let me warn you all of the over rich issue. Since our cars run richer then Richie Rich, that excess fuel will find its way into your oil. This will cause the oil to break down its viscosity ALOT faster, thus causing issues like this. :D

Ahhhh, damn good point. I hadn't even thought of that as a possibility. Man, all kinds of nasty wear could be happening and you wouldn't even know it till it was too late. This scenario could explain most of the bearing failures.
 
boostisgood said:
WEll, Let me warn you all of the over rich issue. Since our cars run richer then Richie Rich, that excess fuel will find its way into your oil. This will cause the oil to break down its viscosity ALOT faster, thus causing issues like this. :D

i can see that happening on a cold engine, but wouldn't your oil pressure go down if it was diluted with fuel?
 
My car is at the dealer and im supposed to be getting a call today with the news. In the mean time im driving my beautiful bottom of the line mitsu lancer. Wow i didnt know cars even got that ugly. lol.

Im sure they are gonna initially try to say the warranty is voided. I will just have to go from there.
 
ok everyone, they are tearing everything apart. i will hopefully find out today. everyone please read the following:

In the mean time since my last thread was closed, we are gathering info on all engine problems. So if you guys could start listing all problems and dealer experience i'd appreciate it. Please don't list common problems such as the "clunk". feel free to send it in a pm. thanks guys.
 
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Rich24km said:
bump what has come of this :)
I authorized the work but still havent heard anything. I would like to think that they could diagnose the problem in a few hours of labor time. I know i could. Anyways... i also would like to stress what i wrote above about peoples engine problems.
 
you got my PM didn't you? About my experience with mazda etc. Oh yeah, when you authorized them, does that mean they're gonna look, but you may get your warranty voided. What did you have to authorize them for. Because of that. ONce its apart and they say no warranty, you'll already know u gotta pay for it to go back together and get fixed?
 
Rich24km said:
you got my PM didn't you? About my experience with mazda etc. Oh yeah, when you authorized them, does that mean they're gonna look, but you may get your warranty voided. What did you have to authorize them for. Because of that. ONce its apart and they say no warranty, you'll already know u gotta pay for it to go back together and get fixed?
Yeah i got it

Yes i understand. I told the guy i approve because im 100% confident that my mods arent related. I told him that since its pretty much impossible to go ahead. As far as that stuff raising my boost, it didnt. Mazda put a boost guage on it last time it was in the shop to check everything before they gave it back to me. The only thing they didnt do was check that #1 cylinder which was flooded with fuel. The only thing ive changed since then is my spark plugs and they sure as hell cant cause a knock. and there wasnt any detonation
 
Just make sure you cover your bases - save EVERYTHING from the engine, including the oil. Whatever you don't save they more than likely will say was faulty and since you did the work yourself you're assumed guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

As far as the problems everyone's had with the MSP - just search and find that previous topic BoostIsGood created. It has everything you need already there.
 
girth said:
Just make sure you cover your bases - save EVERYTHING from the engine, including the oil. Whatever you don't save they more than likely will say was faulty and since you did the work yourself you're assumed guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

As far as the problems everyone's had with the MSP - just search and find that previous topic BoostIsGood created. It has everything you need already there.
Yeah i did a search and couldnt find it. . i guess i just missed it or something. Yeah, im not settling for a bulls*** answer like.... you must have been too hard on your car.
 
Originally Posted by mspdfreak
What amazes me is that with all these posts about blown modded motors and problems with the dealers that people STILL keep trying to crank more power out of a motor that obviously was not made for it. Be happy with what you bought, folks. It's a good car right from the factory. If you wanted more power, why in the hell did you buy it in the first place? I mean, I knew it was 170hp before I even saw one in person. I drove it, was satisfied with it's performance, so I bought it. No mods, and guess what? No problems.

mx3ownzj00 said:
congrats on making the most ignorant statement to date on these forums.

I don't see anything ignorant about that response, IMO. The car was designed for 170 bhp, so you can't double the hp and expect it to last.
I also don't think a SRI and FMIC will cause any problems. I have a SRI, DP and exhaust and haven't had any issues, yet.
 
03MSPRO said:
Originally Posted by mspdfreak
What amazes me is that with all these posts about blown modded motors and problems with the dealers that people STILL keep trying to crank more power out of a motor that obviously was not made for it. Be happy with what you bought, folks. It's a good car right from the factory. If you wanted more power, why in the hell did you buy it in the first place? I mean, I knew it was 170hp before I even saw one in person. I drove it, was satisfied with it's performance, so I bought it. No mods, and guess what? No problems.



I don't see anything ignorant about that response, IMO. The car was designed for 170 bhp, so you can't double the hp and expect it to last.
I also don't think a SRI and FMIC will cause any problems. I have a SRI, DP and exhaust and haven't had any issues, yet.
Well seeing as how you have more horsepower than me i fail to see how your comment makes any sense. My mods create more consistency than they do horsepower. I never did anything to my car that would cause internal damage. There for its faulty parts. When pistons and stuff come off the factory line they only check every 3rd one or so. There for whose to say that they didnt put a s*** one in my car or yours. All i know is that my mods couldnt have created this problem.
 

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