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mikey1981 said:a new fuel pump, and my car is misfiring AGAIN.
im allset with this thing now, lemon time.
not even 6k miles on it, its been at the dealer for an accumulation of over 1 month. No thanks
Acura time.
That is truly a sad turn of events. I thought the curse had lifted for you.
yea, so did i, everything was great until tonite. was about to do a coffee run, i pull out of my garage, head up the street, and little to my surprise misfire! at least this time, i slowed down, turned the radio off and actually paid attention to this P.O.S before i got on a main road. Turned right around, it putted back to my house. its in the garage, im callin roadside, theyll pick it up tomorrow and im taking it from there.
And to think, this has been my MOST FAVORITE vehicle EVER. too bad. Mazda is way below grade in my book - not that this SUV is the best driving vehicle on the road in its class & value, but mechanically and technically its just not ready. its not right, lemon or not, its not right that this vehicle has so many little problems, check engine lights, and updates. This car needed more development time, an extra few months wouldnt hurt, it needs WAY MORE cold weather testing & fixes (heat, warm up time, MRC/shutter valve to name a few) its just not up to grade mechanically with its Acura counterpart and others such as Toyota and Honda.
If i in fact do have a lemon (which i think i do) given the misfiring aside, Ive never once even seen my check engine light in my Hondas, and my very first Honda was a 2 door 95 Accord Coupe EX - i got well over 200k miles on it and it ran better than some of my friends accords with not even 100k on it. Since my 95, ive bought all new Honda's w/o a single problem. New released models (1st year redesigns accord in 97 i think or 98, and then the next gen accord in 2002, and then the refresh in 2006.) Mazda has a way to go with the CX-7 in reliability and mechanical worthyness. Im not saying the brand in general, but this particular model needs attention.
I think in my book, im done with Mazda for now, maybe in time when this is all resolved the new improved 08 will hit the lots, but until then, given what ive gone through up to this point, this car is junked. If it doesnt turn out to be a lemon, i have a feeling this car will be haunting me for months to come and that is not a good feeling.
And to think, this has been my MOST FAVORITE vehicle EVER. too bad. Mazda is way below grade in my book - not that this SUV is the best driving vehicle on the road in its class & value, but mechanically and technically its just not ready. its not right, lemon or not, its not right that this vehicle has so many little problems, check engine lights, and updates. This car needed more development time, an extra few months wouldnt hurt, it needs WAY MORE cold weather testing & fixes (heat, warm up time, MRC/shutter valve to name a few) its just not up to grade mechanically with its Acura counterpart and others such as Toyota and Honda.
If i in fact do have a lemon (which i think i do) given the misfiring aside, Ive never once even seen my check engine light in my Hondas, and my very first Honda was a 2 door 95 Accord Coupe EX - i got well over 200k miles on it and it ran better than some of my friends accords with not even 100k on it. Since my 95, ive bought all new Honda's w/o a single problem. New released models (1st year redesigns accord in 97 i think or 98, and then the next gen accord in 2002, and then the refresh in 2006.) Mazda has a way to go with the CX-7 in reliability and mechanical worthyness. Im not saying the brand in general, but this particular model needs attention.
I think in my book, im done with Mazda for now, maybe in time when this is all resolved the new improved 08 will hit the lots, but until then, given what ive gone through up to this point, this car is junked. If it doesnt turn out to be a lemon, i have a feeling this car will be haunting me for months to come and that is not a good feeling.
Sorry Mikey. That is really frustrating. Agreed about the CEL. Mazda should correct this thing once and for all. I've only had 3 vehicles in my life. I've had 2 Mitsubishis, an Eclipse and a Montero Sport which I kept for 9 yrs and never had a CEL. The CX7 is my first Mazda and I still yet to see if it's more reliable than my Mitsu.
So what vehicle are you getting? Are you sticking with SUVs? If you are, check out the Saturn Outlook. I love the styling of that rig.
Well, goodluck and hopefully your next car won't give you headaches. Let us know what you get. Peace.
So what vehicle are you getting? Are you sticking with SUVs? If you are, check out the Saturn Outlook. I love the styling of that rig.
Well, goodluck and hopefully your next car won't give you headaches. Let us know what you get. Peace.
Mine has run fine from day one. No problems at all. It ran fine at -30 and all other temps. Nothing wrong with updates in my book. Honda and Toyota currently have way more recalls than Mazda. Sorry you had a bad experince, but there's nothing wrong with the CX-7 or Mazda.
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Mazda3 said:Mine has run fine from day one. No problems at all. It ran fine at -30 and all other temps. Nothing wrong with updates in my book. Honda and Toyota currently have way more recalls than Mazda. Sorry you had a bad experince, but there's nothing wrong with the CX-7 or Mazda.
I love Mazdas to doeath. But do you think that maybe Honda and Toyota have more recalls because they notice something is wrong and fix it. I know from experience that somethings should of been recalled on my MSP. The new MSP3's have reacuring problems along with the 6's but no recalls. Is Mazda trying to hide somethings and not just fess up and fix the problems.
im sorry but if u consider random check engine lights throughout the cars life, or, tranny/shifting updates that completely alter the way in which the engine runs, the list for the cx-7 can go on n on.
some people MAY not run into these issues, but, MOST do and have already. the check engine lgiht threads on this forum and many others is quite extensive and border line rediculous.
this car needed a comb over at the very least before being released.
i love this car to death, but even WITHOUT the misfire in my car, its still been the most bothersome car ive ever owned (3 check engine lights unrelated to misfire & the gas cap, shutter valve drilling, gas cap replacement, door sill replacement, PCM update for shift and power reprogramming, cmon now. and i didnt even name everything.
my experience may be rare in terms of the misfiring, but everything else is quite common across the country.
some people MAY not run into these issues, but, MOST do and have already. the check engine lgiht threads on this forum and many others is quite extensive and border line rediculous.
this car needed a comb over at the very least before being released.
i love this car to death, but even WITHOUT the misfire in my car, its still been the most bothersome car ive ever owned (3 check engine lights unrelated to misfire & the gas cap, shutter valve drilling, gas cap replacement, door sill replacement, PCM update for shift and power reprogramming, cmon now. and i didnt even name everything.
my experience may be rare in terms of the misfiring, but everything else is quite common across the country.
a recall is a responsible action taken by the car company. What Mazda has done with this cx-7 is pretty much zero, and failed to recognize issues with this car. yes, the tsb's have covered much of the problems, but the normal and average customer probably has no idea they even exist and therefor wouldnt know about them to begin with.
To say that Honda and Toyota have more recalls, i consider that a valiant effort from them in support of their products and keeping consumer confidence. Mazda has tsb's that are fairly serious in nature, yet, they are covered in secrecy until either the customer has a complaint and/or a problem with the car. Id rather mazda issue recalls for everything so that the customers are in the know and can take care of their car accordingly without having to hassle serivce dept's and pressuring them to fix stuff that should be fixed in the first place.
Every single 7 should have the power update as a recall
To say that Honda and Toyota have more recalls, i consider that a valiant effort from them in support of their products and keeping consumer confidence. Mazda has tsb's that are fairly serious in nature, yet, they are covered in secrecy until either the customer has a complaint and/or a problem with the car. Id rather mazda issue recalls for everything so that the customers are in the know and can take care of their car accordingly without having to hassle serivce dept's and pressuring them to fix stuff that should be fixed in the first place.
Every single 7 should have the power update as a recall
mikey1981 said:a recall is a responsible action taken by the car company. What Mazda has done with this cx-7 is pretty much zero, and failed to recognize issues with this car. yes, the tsb's have covered much of the problems, but the normal and average customer probably has no idea they even exist and therefor wouldnt know about them to begin with.
To say that Honda and Toyota have more recalls, i consider that a valiant effort from them in support of their products and keeping consumer confidence. Mazda has tsb's that are fairly serious in nature, yet, they are covered in secrecy until either the customer has a complaint and/or a problem with the car. Id rather mazda issue recalls for everything so that the customers are in the know and can take care of their car accordingly without having to hassle serivce dept's and pressuring them to fix stuff that should be fixed in the first place.
Every single 7 should have the power update as a recall
Car Manufacturers (yes toyota and honda included) TSB items that are issues but DO NOT concern the safety of passengers or fellow motorists...
Recalls are usually only done if it is an issue pertaining to safety, and in all honesty - thats the way I think it should be.
the turbo lag update could definately be classified as a saftey issue depending on how you look at it. I can recall countless times taking turns through intersections, stop signs, and many situations in city driving where hitting the gas pedal and a 1 - 2 second delay is all it takes to get smashed into.
I think Mikey has a good point that the CX-7 would have benefitted mightily from some extra months in development. It would have reduced a lot of the headaches people have had. Failing that, Mazda should have made sure that any later developed fixes were applied to the cars on the lots, so that later customers weren't burdened with having to bring the car back in to have known problems (short of recalls) addressed. That's just stupid and thoughtless.
I haven't had the CEL problem and hope that I am not inviting it now by saying so out loud. Most of the problems I have had to deal with are fairly minor and to me, don't seem all that surprising for a first year model. (I had always thought I would never buy a first year model, because the kinks aren't worked out. But I just loved this car so my "rule" went out the window, which I think happened to many of us.) The problems are certainly nothing that would make me want to give up the car.
Now Mickey has had a real problem with the misfire, which coupled with everything else have caused an understandable loss of faith in the CX-7. That is a true shame as he has been a forceful advocate for the CX-7's strengths and charms. It really is a cruel twist of fate that he should get stuck with what sounds like a lemon.
I don't blame you one bit for saying Mazda could have done a much better job with the CX-7 release. You are right.
I haven't had the CEL problem and hope that I am not inviting it now by saying so out loud. Most of the problems I have had to deal with are fairly minor and to me, don't seem all that surprising for a first year model. (I had always thought I would never buy a first year model, because the kinks aren't worked out. But I just loved this car so my "rule" went out the window, which I think happened to many of us.) The problems are certainly nothing that would make me want to give up the car.
Now Mickey has had a real problem with the misfire, which coupled with everything else have caused an understandable loss of faith in the CX-7. That is a true shame as he has been a forceful advocate for the CX-7's strengths and charms. It really is a cruel twist of fate that he should get stuck with what sounds like a lemon.
I don't blame you one bit for saying Mazda could have done a much better job with the CX-7 release. You are right.
mikey1981 said:the turbo lag update could definately be classified as a saftey issue depending on how you look at it. I can recall countless times taking turns through intersections, stop signs, and many situations in city driving where hitting the gas pedal and a 1 - 2 second delay is all it takes to get smashed into.
I have turbo lag as well... Its a common attribute of Turbocharged vehicles, SOME turbo lag is always going to be present.
and in all honesty, if youre leaving yourself with that little room for error, I dont think the car should be blamed...
Im talking about safety concerns IE - suspension coming apart due to bad ball joints, defective tires, airbag concerns, things out of the drivers control. Pulling out in traffic with no room for error assuming full boost @ 0rpm is driver error IMHO and not a safety concern.
I do however understand your point.
ive been more than generous with this car for its short comings and problems. I have never complained about the turbo lag, yea its a turbo, they all have lag, but ive never denied the fact that its present and burdensome - the 7's lag was much more prominent than the turbo in the Acura from dead stops and the like.
Im not asking for much, and never have. I never expected this truck to be perfect, far from it. I also wasnt expecting to buy a product over 30k to lack such mechanical and technical refinement that this thing has. The 7 has now cost me a tremendous amt of my personal and work time. I dont have time to deal with this cars problems in the way in which they need to be addressed. Check engine lights every 1k miles is just ludacris, for any car and any car maker.Its an unfair burden on me, the consumer, to devote what has now accumulated to over 1 months time in the service dept taking care of stupid TSB's, updates, check engine lights, shutter valves, gas caps, These should have been addressed before release. or if they couldnt All be addressed, which obviously no car is perfect, the most glaring defects should definately have been fixed (lack of power in low rpm range, gas cap, and tripping of the cel light) there are too many rough edges on this fantastic suv.
Im not asking for much, and never have. I never expected this truck to be perfect, far from it. I also wasnt expecting to buy a product over 30k to lack such mechanical and technical refinement that this thing has. The 7 has now cost me a tremendous amt of my personal and work time. I dont have time to deal with this cars problems in the way in which they need to be addressed. Check engine lights every 1k miles is just ludacris, for any car and any car maker.Its an unfair burden on me, the consumer, to devote what has now accumulated to over 1 months time in the service dept taking care of stupid TSB's, updates, check engine lights, shutter valves, gas caps, These should have been addressed before release. or if they couldnt All be addressed, which obviously no car is perfect, the most glaring defects should definately have been fixed (lack of power in low rpm range, gas cap, and tripping of the cel light) there are too many rough edges on this fantastic suv.
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The Acura RDX was my other choice, but the dealership gave me such a good deal with my Mazda 3 trade plus the Sport model was on sale so I could not pass up the low car payment.mikey1981 said:a new fuel pump, and my car is misfiring AGAIN.
im allset with this thing now, lemon time.
not even 6k miles on it, its been at the dealer for an accumulation of over 1 month. No thanks
Acura time.
After reading some of these threads, I am a little worried about my new CX-7.
cricket1977 said:The Acura RDX was my other choice, but the dealership gave me such a good deal with my Mazda 3 trade plus the Sport model was on sale so I could not pass up the low car payment.
After reading some of these threads, I am a little worried about my new CX-7.
I don't think you'll be disappointed with your choice. A lot of people read these forums and never share a complaint because they just don't have them. For most of us, the kinds of things that have gone wrong are strictly minor and readily resolved. If you have a good dealer, and it sounds like you do, I'm sure you'll be just fine. Poor Mike just drew the short straw. It is really a shame, but it doesn't mean the CX-7 line is fatally flawed.
I smile everytime I look at my car and just love to drive it. I forgive it and Mazda for any first year bugs. The zoom zoom and money in my pocket more than make up for any of the minor inconvenience I've suffered.
(drinks)
mikey1981, as a past President has said, "I feel your pain", and its true.
While many of us have had some problems, I don't think any of us have had the problem with the dangerous fuel pump issue.
It could be a "Monday morning manufactured car", and you should not have to bear the onus of owning it. That being said, is there another Mazda dealership in your area? Perhaps one that is also a "Mazda Speed" shop may be more intune (pardon the pun) with your situation and resolve the issues for you. With perhaps Mazda HQ approval for all work done.
Just a suggestion. Good luck regardless of what you do.
Darth Vader Grey GT AWD w/Nav.
While many of us have had some problems, I don't think any of us have had the problem with the dangerous fuel pump issue.
It could be a "Monday morning manufactured car", and you should not have to bear the onus of owning it. That being said, is there another Mazda dealership in your area? Perhaps one that is also a "Mazda Speed" shop may be more intune (pardon the pun) with your situation and resolve the issues for you. With perhaps Mazda HQ approval for all work done.
Just a suggestion. Good luck regardless of what you do.
Darth Vader Grey GT AWD w/Nav.
Yea, ive already spoken with a few dealers, gathered their insight, see what kind of problems they were having with any customers. Right now im just all set with this entire situation. IM going on vacation this week, my car is at the dealer, and hopefully when i get back theyll have some sort of a resolution and answer.
My dealer's service dept flat out sucks. Resources are spread too thin, its a mega Ford - Volvo - Lincoln - Mazda dealer and their just isnt any devotion and/or skilled Mazda technicians there. Add to that, they are coming to the point where they are just giving up on working on this car, and are starting to care less, so its a lose lose situation. I will either get a new one, or not get a Mazda at all. Well see. Ill keep u guys posted.
My dealer's service dept flat out sucks. Resources are spread too thin, its a mega Ford - Volvo - Lincoln - Mazda dealer and their just isnt any devotion and/or skilled Mazda technicians there. Add to that, they are coming to the point where they are just giving up on working on this car, and are starting to care less, so its a lose lose situation. I will either get a new one, or not get a Mazda at all. Well see. Ill keep u guys posted.
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I have had it a week now and absolutely love it. I typically have a personal "new model year don't buy" clause that I have gone by for years but I overlooked it when I looked at the CX-7 and especially after I drove it, and I did drive both the RDX and CX-7. I have confidence in Mazda especially after my Mazda 3.UpNorth said:I don't think you'll be disappointed with your choice. A lot of people read these forums and never share a complaint because they just don't have them. For most of us, the kinds of things that have gone wrong are strictly minor and readily resolved. If you have a good dealer, and it sounds like you do, I'm sure you'll be just fine. Poor Mike just drew the short straw. It is really a shame, but it doesn't mean the CX-7 line is fatally flawed.
I smile everytime I look at my car and just love to drive it. I forgive it and Mazda for any first year bugs. The zoom zoom and money in my pocket more than make up for any of the minor inconvenience I've suffered.
(drinks)
ahh enough of my thread jacking... I do feel bad for Mike here, it sucks that his confidence is broken in the model line. I just hope it can be resolved with minimal problems wheter it ends up being a lemon or not, NKABAK has the right idea if you can find another dealer "speed" qualified around. If you made it to the Cincinnati area Kings Mazda is great here, their technicians seem top notch and in fact they even have an entire building set up just for Mazda only collision repairs.
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