2016 CX5 better "driving machine" over 2017

[Xeler8ing]

And to add another review (Performance Drive) of the 17' CX-5's unit:

"Heres an area where the CX-5 has always majored, and right off the bat, we can confirm it still does.

The 2.5-litre engine is a superb unit, feeling punchy, super responsive and clean-revving. At no point in the rev range does it feel strained, and there is a nice surge available at all times. Its not sports car fast, but it has an immediacy that downsized-and-turbocharged rivals simply cant match. Its tied to a very intuitive and fast-acting six-speed automatic unit that is standard fare on all CX-5s except the base Maxx 2.0L FWD. Were confident that car would go well too, since it doesnt have the weight of AWD."

Not surprising of the slower times of the 17 CX-5 due to added weight. They still have that option to put that 2.5L Turbo into it which could make it a class leader undoubtedly. The CX-5 is an SUV first and foremost or CUV as you guys call it. It's not meant to be a sports car but for an SUV it is definitely sportier than most. Half the enjoyment is from carving corners. How often does one floor the throttle from standstill to 60 mph? Not often if at all I'd say. Though the 17 CX-5 may be slower by half a second or so to 60 mph, most owners would be happier to drive in a more quieter and premium feeling vehicle if comparing to the previous model.

Can't see them putting the 2.5T at this stage (hope I am wrong) because they have the 2.2TT diesel which makes the same amount of torque. Now if the figures were different.....

How often does one floor from standstill - more than you think. An example your at a set of traffic lights, you are in the left lane but your lane on the otherside of the lights has cars parked and you don't want to be caught behind cars in the right lane. Hence you floor it (albeit for a short period to the speed limit). You want quickish response. That's when this becomes important.

 

[Xeler8ing]

But it may be the result of not being able to turn off traction control

We have the ability to turn off traction control

 

[paging_drburgos]

Can't see them putting the 2.5T at this stage (hope I am wrong) because they have the 2.2TT diesel which makes the same amount of torque. Now if the figures were different.....

How often does one floor from standstill - more than you think. An example your at a set of traffic lights, you are in the left lane but your lane on the otherside of the lights has cars parked and you don't want to be caught behind cars in the right lane. Hence you floor it (albeit for a short period to the speed limit). You want quickish response. That's when this becomes important.

Yeah I hear you. I will say that I haven't been let down by off the line power. In fact there have been a few times where I'll get tire spin. Coming from a Mazda 5, and 2015 Mazda 3 (fiance's car) this car is totally fast enough for what I need.
Which engine do you have in your MZ6? Is it the same 2.5 4cyl?

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

Yep, I agree. Most of the highest paid IT folks I know (think $160k/year consultants, etc.) don't even have degrees. On the flip side, I knew a guy that was getting his Ph.D. but still worked on a tier 1 or 2 help desk which makes no sense to me.

Good work ethic, taking risks on jobs you might not have the on-paper skills for, and constantly learning/refining your skills get's you farther has been the key. And figuring out the path you want to go down too. Some areas of IT get to be dead end and you work way more for less than others where you work normal for more.

Edit: Oh! And being good at talking with people and different groups, which let's face it, a lot of IT people are not. LOL

Wife and I got into field back in early/mid 90's. Just basic AAs here. We were geek teenage kids of the 80's. We were never paper MCSE's either...for those that know that term. IMO.. the IT landscape is changing and those that wish to succeed will have a greater role in the business side of the house. For strait IT... forensics and network security pay well.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Wife and I got into field back in early/mid 90's. Just basic AAs here. We were geek teenage kids of the 80's. We were never paper MCSE's either...for those that know that term. IMO.. the IT landscape is changing and those that wish to succeed will have a greater role in the business side of the house. For strait IT... forensics and network security pay well.

Fully agree. That's why I am in the process side of things now and not in the technical or operations side of the house anymore.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Yeah I hear you. I will say that I haven't been let down by off the line power. In fact there have been a few times where I'll get tire spin. Coming from a Mazda 5, and 2015 Mazda 3 (fiance's car) this car is totally fast enough for what I need.

And this is what I am still looking for. I get it won't be the same as my current Mazda 6 which is 199kg (439lbs) less that the 2017 CX-5 but if the performance is close, then I am fine with it.

Which engine do you have in your MZ6? Is it the same 2.5 4cyl?

Yes it's the same albeit without the changes made to the 2017 CX-5.

My motor is the same as Mazda3, pre 2017 CX-5.

 

[jhu8]

Maybe not convincing, but I've seen the words "turd" and "terrible" dropped here in the last couple days, when discussing the 17. Not that I care one whit - I am happy with my purchase

I have seen that. But I know for a fact that's not the majority here. The 17 is one hell of a suv. Far from a turd. You should be happy!

 

[paging_drburgos]

Wife and I got into field back in early/mid 90's. Just basic AAs here. We were geek teenage kids of the 80's. We were never paper MCSE's either...for those that know that term. IMO.. the IT landscape is changing and those that wish to succeed will have a greater role in the business side of the house. For strait IT... forensics and network security pay well.

You're speaking my language. *tips hat*
Paper MCSE's are the worst. I actually work with a few guys who have computer science degree's and they're the worst sys admin's I've ever worked with.

 

[Xeler8ing]

I am happy with my purchase

And this is the most important thing!

 

[ColoradoDriver]

You're speaking my language. *tips hat*
Paper MCSE's are the worst. I actually work with a few guys who have computer science degree's and they're the worst sys admin's I've ever worked with.

Glad I am not the only one who has noticed this. When some companies I've worked for in the past hired these straight out of college people, they were the absolute worst.

 

[Xeler8ing]

I've heard slapping on some stickers on the bumper is good for 3-4 hp.

(lol2)

 

[Monterra]

On another note, the 2017 CR-V is a much better performance machine than the CX-5, so the Mazda fans will now need to revise their "but zoom zoom..." chant and focus more on the other ways the CX-5 beats the CRV, such as "I am loyal to Mazda" "I hate turbos...but the CX9 is okay..." and "CVT's are bad, because the little "jerks" my 6-speed gives hides the fact that my vehicle is much slower..." , "it has too much chrome...but the grill and window-trim on the '17 CX5 is cool by me!", "Fuelly is my source of real world data when I talk about CX5's under-performance in many cases on the forum, but it's probably wrong just this once about the CR-V" and other such gems.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-touring-awd-first-test-review/

My stance? "I am hoping my CX-5 continues to be reliable, it is plenty functional, and I have no desire to incur financial loss by trading it at this time." Basically...what/why I bought it initially. Function/cost/why not?

It's also kindof an easter-egg that it trounces all over the 2017 from a performance perspective, and you can bet that a 140# weight gain is NOT what has cost it this much performance. It did hurt some , I am sure, but it is not what cost it a full half-second to 60. Something else is afoot.
http://www.060calculator.com/

Mike M got it, you don't but then again you expected to get @EPA hwy fuel economy busting 90 down the interstate in a 68" tall CUV. I think you clearly bought the wrong car but you know that by now I guess. I drove the CR-V, its very good, better in many ways for most peoples' needs but if that is a better driving machine to you simply because it puts up better numbers have fun w/that CVT (its not and you're wrong) but surely entitled to your opinion.

As for the 140# thing I agree that a half second does seem a lot but I'll share with you this- the 16.5 touring loaner I just returned will flat smoke my car as it sits w/19s. Lots of variables in tests but one I noticed immediately was adding tire weight and a bit of diameter vs OE to this car absolutely crushed both acceleration and fe so the 17 has different wheels and tires if weight was gained there in any appreciable form plus the other hundred and whatever #s I believe the .5sec penalty. Gearing hasn't changed so what else would be afoot?

 

[Xeler8ing]

As for the 140# thing I agree that a half second does seem a lot but I'll share with you this- the 16.5 touring loaner I just returned will flat smoke my car as it sits w/19s. Lots of variables in tests but one I noticed immediately was adding tire weight and a bit of diameter vs OE to this car absolutely crushed both acceleration and fe so the 17 has different wheels and tires if weight was gained there in any appreciable form plus the other hundred and whatever #s I believe the .5sec penalty. Gearing hasn't changed so what else would be afoot?

Nothing as they also improved the throttle response to be quicker.

So it seems the extra heft with no noticeable increase in power and torque has caused the slower times.

 

[Monterra]

My CX5 was a purchase in response to an unreliable vehicle, and a need for a reliable one that was good on gas, AWD, and CUV or larger. I literally bought the geographically closest option per Autotrader that fit the bill. It's a coffee-maker to me.

Re: Miata, I love the look of the new hardtop one, but the one I rode in has TONS of body-roll. If I wanted a slower sports car, I'd go FR-S or whatever Toyota calls it now. Not that the Miata is "bad", I just prefer different dynamics.

Hey look at that we do agree on something..FR-S/86/BRZ dynamics vs the Miata! Lots of incremental changes to 17..reviews were pretty meh and 5hp certainly nothing to get excited about but gearing change made big difference and does mostly compensate for that infamous dip in midrange power, ride with perf pkg car I drove was almost shockingly good vs jiggle me silly yet rolly RF. Good vs MT vid on these..pretty funny. And yeah I'm that guy..don't turbo the damn thing!! Fix/bump output/disp on the NA engine a bit and its near perfect.

 

[joe6864]

Who is trying to convince you guys...

Who has said that? Who has implied that?

Are you reading the same posts I am? The <2017 circle jerk is strong lately (often from those that haven't even driven a 2017).

 

[finch204]

Are you reading the same posts I am? The <2017 circle jerk is strong lately (often from those that haven't even driven a 2017).

As someone stated before the release of the 2017 model, it's just confirmation bias making its rounds. If you are happy with the 2017 and you should be rightfully so, it is a great car, you shouldn't let some of the comments here affect your appreciation of your car.

 

[Monterra]

CR-V, you people disgust me!

 

[jhu8]

Are you reading the same posts I am? The <2017 circle jerk is strong lately (often from those that haven't even driven a 2017).

Yep. But gonna end this here. This is so dumb lol 2013- 17 are the best cx5s around!!

 

[paging_drburgos]

Funny thing, I just read this article again, and it was full of comments like this "It might be easy to damn the new CX-5 for being less of a performer at the track than its predecessor, but the 2017 model is actually much more enjoyable to drive on the street than the previous-generation model."

So there you have it. v1 is like the GTR's 2nd cousin twice removed on the track, but v2 is better on the street. Lets all shake hands and have a beer. The weekend is here.
And yes I rhymed.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Funny thing, I just read this article again, and it was full of comments like this "It might be easy to damn the new CX-5 for being less of a performer at the track than its predecessor, but the 2017 model is actually much more enjoyable to drive on the street than the previous-generation model."

So there you have it. v1 is like the GTR's 2nd cousin twice removed on the track, but v2 is better on the street. Lets all shake hands and have a beer. The weekend is here.
And yes I rhymed.

Been the weekend here for 8 hours now [emoji3]

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