2009 Ward's top 10 engines

what about the issue with the seals and smoking? Isn't that happening on stock motors? And if so, might that not cause the DISI to be left off the list?

suprisingly, there was a thread for people with smoking turbo's and non smoking turbo's on here a few weeks ago, and there were alot more people without smoking turbos. 47,000 miles on mine and no issues.
 
I just hit 18k, no issues so far. Doesn't loose oil between changes, and not smoking at all. Stock except for cobb sri and short shifter.
 
check out the video of TOP GEAR where Richard Hammond learns how to drive an F1 car. The show was okay, but the part where they talk about the car and engine themselves is insane. Like the engine has to be hooked up to an oil pump to keep the oil pumping and heated to a certain temperature or else the cylanders and crap will seize up and wont start. F1 is the craziest thing on wheels on earth, but those engines are strong and fragile at the same time if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I don't know that much about f1, but I did learn alot from that top gear show. Some of that technology might be ancient, but at least we know it works :)

The customer F1 Cars (mostly schumi's old ones) are hooked up to a pumparound system and the oil is warmed for about an hour before they can even get in it. The sytems pre-check are like getting ready to fly a fighter jet. But up close and personal, which I have seen, F1 Cars ARE simply uhmazing. Made to do one thing very very well. Anytime engineering is pushed to its limits like that, it usually produces amazing and beautiful results, unlike 2009 cars which have been dumbed down be people who aren't engineers..and are therefore UGLY...anyway heres a nice pic for ogling...

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I love F1 I wish my parents had the money to push me towards F1 racing when I was younger :(

Buy a shifter kart like me, closest thing to F1 as far as grip and acceleration most people get to experience...
 
what about the issue with the seals and smoking? Isn't that happening on stock motors? And if so, might that not cause the DISI to be left off the list?

i thought people with the smoking turbos was due to them (dealers included) using 5w20 oil, being too thin and getting pass the seals.

i read somewhere that someone had a smoking turbo, changed to 5w30 after putting 5w20 oil and it stopped smoke almost instantly. Probably why the dealer diagnosed it as a bad seal because oil was getting through.
 
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unlike 2009 cars which have been dumbed down be people who aren't engineers..and are therefore UGLY...

Not to mention that there is no Honda for 2009, Ferrari threatening, no chance for smaller teams to compete with drastic regulation changing every year, and of course, no North America race at all. 2008 was a bad year for F1 management. Hopefully 2009 can be as exciting.

Anyway, now that I'm WAY off topic.......
 
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as a matter of fact, if your car has 4-valves and fuel injection you have F1 technology to thank. they were both originally developed for those cars. open wheel racing tech does indeed filter down- on good cars, that is. if things were up to FoMoCo and GM, we'd still be rolling on solid rear axles- like the stang still does...

I agree. If there was no outside US pressure with other companies selling better cars, the only difference is US models from decade to decade would be LARGER radio controls. Where is no competition in US auto industry there is zero improvement. Take a look at the van Ford Econoline, same exact van for 25 years. I cannot believe as well how the school buses are made - I bet they will look the same 50 years from now.
 
I agree. If there was no outside US pressure with other companies selling better cars, the only difference is US models from decade to decade would be LARGER radio controls. Where is no competition in US auto industry there is zero improvement. Take a look at the van Ford Econoline, same exact van for 25 years. I cannot believe as well how the school buses are made - I bet they will look the same 50 years from now.

12 years ago back when i was in poland i always wanted to ride in the yellow american school bus LOL
 
what about the issue with the seals and smoking? Isn't that happening on stock motors? And if so, might that not cause the DISI to be left off the list?

Yeah, well, the inclusion in Wards list does not specify a turbo, and the DISI exists in various forms without it. Ergo, the turbo does not make the motor.
 
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