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I gotta chime in here! My 20th aniv gti has disgusting handling... its all audi TT components including the brakes... and once i get revo'd ill be putting down roughly 220hp/ 247 pd torque... Plus i get stock 18in rims bodykit etc etc... check out the car domain...

Msp : my 2nd Fav car ;)

Not to mention the HUGE amount of noise increase, esp because the muffler is soo much closer to you.

Nice choice ;) check out the forums at vwvortex.com You won't regret it, I bailed on the msp and bought a 20th aniv. GTI... If you want handling, get the suspension components from the 20th/337..... its amazing. Anyway, GL, and go Revo chipping.... totally dealer/insurance company...

Yea you killed a 3.2 CL Type S! It only has 90 HP on ya!!!! What are u smoking!!! Btw, my car has 6 gears, its a 1.8t, a 2003 gti and its NOT a 337 :)

::tear:: I guess the CF hood went, poof?

Slip, concerning the AutoX'in in the future, you could do a 337/20AE suspension upgrade then the thing will handle like a dream. I've been to car shows where nearly STOCK 337's have one thier class over extremely modified imports. Personal preference, but a GTI with 17's and no other options is...

http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/99001.htm ;)

Yet another reason.... Protege = 5k a year GTI = 3K a year NJ BLOWS

You guys are SO biased. Lets break it down. GTI + 1165 bucks = 243HP BEAST. Gti Interior= Sweet german ride, leather opt, feels expensive. MSP Int. = Economy Car. Period. To sell a car in Germany, let alone Europe, you are required to have 3 side impact door beams and 3 airbags. Mazda...

My dealer has 7, yes 7 MSP's on their inventory list. He still wants a 3k markup, I'm like are you kidding me?

JW, because a dealer who originally wanted a 4k markup :wtf: now has 7 on their lot.....

You wish bro.

Anyone? Anyone?

You guys all bash on this SRT-4, but how many ppl already have clunking and rattling MSP's? Quite a few if i don't recall

Insurance is the reason i couldn't get the MSP, it would have been $6,000 a year, USD. NJ and Liberty Mutual suck more dick then a 2cent hoe. This is on a 17yr old first driver

Yea, newark is bad, I live in a town in morris county, my mother grew up in irvington, besides the fact, I believe the wayne mazda got one of em in, was supposed to be mine, then my dad checked insurance on it :( , looks like i have to settle with his 01 acura cl type s, oh well.

oh yea, no violations :confused:

thats full on a 17yr old driver, with all the discounts , NJ insurance is a b****, i can't imagine what an MSP would be.... 6, 7k? who knows.... liberty mutual sucks ass