My Black Evo X

[shane02pro5]

Dino upload some current pics man...I mean it's not a protege but I know you have it lookin hot by now!

 

[Kooldino]

I meant build one which im doing right now. One of my best friends has owned one (240sx) for 5 years with a rb20det.

What does a 240 have to do with a skyline or a supra?

You are right you don't have a brand new car or a warranty but you can get a basically new rb25 engine (from reputable company) for under 5K and have it professionally installed and replace ALL the stock compnents for under 15 grand. Thats using only the best quality parts / services as well as a basic bolt on kit that usually comes with the "clips." That stock engine has 250hp and can handle over 650 on stock internals. With 4-5 grand extra in mods you can build a very fast car.

Maybe times have changed, but last time I looked into supras and skylines, buying the actual car cost a ton of money, and the GOOD aftermarket parts weren't cheap either.

A clean supra is going for close to $30K on ebay right now:
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R40&_trksid=p3841.m39.l1313&_nkw=1995+toyota+supra&_sacat=

And the only r34 skyline I could find is $150K:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JUN-NISSAN-SKYLINE-TIME-ATTACK-GT-R-GTR-R34-TURBO-JDM_W0QQitemZ120518854541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRace_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_?hash=item1c0f7bc78d

I would rather take that risk than buy a used EVO / STI any day.

The risk of buying an abused 15 year old turbo supra is even higher.

I can only imagine what owners do to evo's before they sell. Thats a very risky move.

Buying any used performance car is. The older that car is, the greater the chances of abuse. I'd rather buy a 2 year old performance car than a 15 year old one.

Evo's are nice. I wanted one and im not bashing them. But they are expensive to buy and expensive to mod as well.

They're not cheap cars, but they're a bargain compared to a supra. As for cost to mod, they're really not bad. Most of the mods only cost a little bit more than what you'd pay for mods on an MSP. Most springs are under $250, clutches are around $500, flywheels are around $300, tunes are around $500, turbos are $1200. Nothing outrageous, unless you're buying crazy JDM parts or something.

If you spend money in the right places, you can get a reliable 100hp out of the car for under $1500. That's tough to match with any car on the planet.

Not to mention they throw your warranty out the door just as fast as mazda.

Actually, far worse.

In my experience, Mazda was pretty cool to me about warranty work. Mitsu OTOH, has a rep for denying claims on Evos.

 

[sanblaster]

dino upload some current pics man...i mean it's not a protege but i know you have it lookin hot by now!

+1.

 

[Kooldino]

Dino upload some current pics man...I mean it's not a protege but I know you have it lookin hot by now!

Here's a few quick pics I could round up:

 

[THE Phen]

Actually, far worse.

In my experience, Mazda was pretty cool to me about warranty work. Mitsu OTOH, has a rep for denying claims on Evos.

Definitely a CYA type thing and I guess you really can't blame them for the most part. I'm sick of reading arguments about why people think that such and such part shouldn't have voided a warranty. Well... you modified standard equipment. Sure, it may be a better part in the long run, but if you install it wrong and blow it up, it sure as hell isn't Mazda's / Mitsu's fault.

 

[Kooldino]

Definitely a CYA type thing and I guess you really can't blame them for the most part. I'm sick of reading arguments about why people think that such and such part shouldn't have voided a warranty. Well... you modified standard equipment. Sure, it may be a better part in the long run, but if you install it wrong and blow it up, it sure as hell isn't Mazda's / Mitsu's fault.

Clearly you've never dealt with Mitsu for warranty issues.

Trust me. I have a highly modified Protege, and I have a mildly moded Evo. Mazda gave me less trouble with all of the s*** I have on my Protege than Mitsu did for the minimal stuff I have on my Evo.

 

[THE Phen]

You are correct, and I've heard the stories of instant voiding based on dumb s***.

 

[LinuxRacr]

That's not good. Isn't it true that the Access Port is sold through some stealerships?

 

[coyfish]

240's are notorious swap cars. They are all over the place. . . Im sure you have seen one. Because you can buy them cheap and they are RWD. Not to mention they share similar components with skylines so the swaps are "easy" relatively speaking. You can replace all the stock OEM parts like water pumps, pulley's , etc for cheap. Then buy a tranny / rb25 skyline motor and you are set. The motors themselves are all over the place. Tons of companies specialize in just 240sx swaps and sell clips with everything you need from mounts to turbo kits in one package.

You can have your car built by a reputable company using only the best products you can find for under 20K. Thats a modded one too. Capable of 600hp on stock internals. Or you can do it yourself for even cheaper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifuZ89pLLks&feature=related

Anyway your evo looks sick. Looks much better than the older 8/9's imo.

 

[Kooldino]

That's not good. Isn't it true that the Access Port is sold through some stealerships?

It's true.

That said, you could always flash back to the stock tune with the AccessPort before going into the dealer.

 

[Kooldino]

240's are notorious swap cars. They are all over the place. . . Im sure you have seen one. Because you can buy them cheap and they are RWD. Not to mention they share similar components with skylines so the swaps are "easy" relatively speaking. You can replace all the stock OEM parts like water pumps, pulley's , etc for cheap. Then buy a tranny / rb25 skyline motor and you are set. The motors themselves are all over the place. Tons of companies specialize in just 240sx swaps and sell clips with everything you need from mounts to turbo kits in one package.

You can have your car built by a reputable company using only the best products you can find for under 20K. Thats a modded one too. Capable of 600hp on stock internals. Or you can do it yourself for even cheaper.

That's cool, but it's still not a Skyline or even close. It's a cheap 20-year old RWD car. Kind of apples and oranges.

Anyway your evo looks sick. Looks much better than the older 8/9's imo.

Thanks mang.

 

[MP3Architect]

240's are notorious swap cars. They are all over the place. . . Im sure you have seen one. Because you can buy them cheap and they are RWD. Not to mention they share similar components with skylines so the swaps are "easy" relatively speaking. You can replace all the stock OEM parts like water pumps, pulley's , etc for cheap. Then buy a tranny / rb25 skyline motor and you are set. The motors themselves are all over the place. Tons of companies specialize in just 240sx swaps and sell clips with everything you need from mounts to turbo kits in one package.

but thats a 240. not a skyline. its like a drag queen. or maybe more like a tranny. i actually saw 3 skylines today. 2 old, one new. but i live in a place where they're way more common than 240s.

 

[coyfish]

but thats a 240. not a skyline. its like a drag queen. or maybe more like a tranny. i actually saw 3 skylines today. 2 old, one new. but i live in a place where they're way more common than 240s.

Not really. The 240's aren't bad handling cars. You can make it anything you want really. You can go for power or you can go suspension and make it competitive on the track. They are popular drift cars because they are balanced pretty well depending on which engine you drop in there.

 

[MP3Architect]

Not really. The 240's aren't bad handling cars. You can make it anything you want really. You can go for power or you can go suspension and make it competitive on the track. They are popular drift cars because they are balanced pretty well depending on which engine you drop in there.

but its still a 240.

 

[LinuxRacr]

OBP was my second choice - nice color. Just make sure you run some dark accents on it to make it look mean.

You looking to buy new or used? 2008 or 2010? GSR or MR?

Options?

Preferably a used, unless a deal on a new one is better, or on par with what I can find used. A used MR would be nice, as I kind of dig the SST, and believe that traditional stick shift will be dead soon. I don't have to have 500 WTQ. I could be happy with the limit of the 350 WTQ of the SST. If I can't find the MR for a good price, the GSR would be just fine.

I'm preferably looking for the MR or GSR, Octane Blue Perl, SSS Package.

 

[Kooldino]

Well, the MR isn't available in blue, it's a GSR-only color.

Post a WTB thread on the evo forums and see what kind of offers roll in.