Tranny issues...PLEASE HELP.

Little Beavis said:
In my drawing, the "white" part is the differential - not the white gear. Do not remove anything from the white gear of the sensor (I hope that isn't what you're asking). You need to remove the yellow shaded area (which is part of the differential), or you need to remove a similar shaped portion of the pink gear so that it sits over the yellow shaded portion of the differential.
ahh.. ok.

as i look at steves break down process of the tranny. i slowly am veiring away from doing this work myself.. as i look at things, i don't even know where the **** the differential goes..how scary is that..dammit.
 
Ummm. . .that is scary!

It really isn't that bad, but it isn't very easy and won't be easy if you aren't at least halfway decent with tools and things of this nature. You need to remove pins and all sorts of stuff to get this accomplished. It is a PITA for a $15 speedo gear, but I'm a sucker for punishment and anal about how things work, so I know I'd do it. :-)
 
Little Beavis said:
Ummm. . .that is scary!

It really isn't that bad, but it isn't very easy and won't be easy if you aren't at least halfway decent with tools and things of this nature. You need to remove pins and all sorts of stuff to get this accomplished. It is a PITA for a $15 speedo gear, but I'm a sucker for punishment and anal about how things work, so I know I'd do it. :-)
as am i. which is why i've already bought the gear and such. well..

i'll do the job. and hopefully i'll do it good. i'm just worried as it goes back together, i don't wanna **** something up.

i want to be able to drive like it's a brand new msp. on the other hand.. flyinhawaiiin will prolly be there to work w/ me.
 
Well Steve did an excellent write up after finishing both my install and his own. Follow that and take lots of pictures and pay attention and you should be fine.
 
boostdprotegelx said:
as am i. which is why i've already bought the gear and such. well..

i'll do the job. and hopefully i'll do it good. i'm just worried as it goes back together, i don't wanna **** something up.

i want to be able to drive like it's a brand new msp. on the other hand.. flyinhawaiiin will prolly be there to work w/ me.
Really, the hardest part of the job is getting the tranny back on and not ripping the c/v shaft seals apart. If you're working on a lift this job is a lot simpler.
 
more pics for you. Thats is the part i believe needs to be cut or dremeled. The other pic shows where the lsd goes. The pink thing should face down where the white gear is.
 

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PM me if you need anything specific for removing the tranny or opening it up. I just did one last week so it should be fresh on my mind.
 
CustomMSP said:
Really, the hardest part of the job is getting the tranny back on and not ripping the c/v shaft seals apart. If you're working on a lift this job is a lot simpler.
yeah, i won't have a lift. so that sucks. and i must not be good w/ directions.. clearly.i never read s*** on doing the motor swap, i just did it.lol. hands on more or less i suppose is the best for me.

but i've been looking at the write up and it scares me. cuz i didn't know i had to take all the gearing out and w/e.
 
miss_steele_msp said:
more pics for you. Thats is the part i believe needs to be cut or dremeled. The other pic shows where the lsd goes. The pink thing should face down where the white gear is.
thank you for these pictures. i'm still trying to figure it out. but i guess if i get them in hand i'll see wtf is needed.
 
boostdprotegelx said:
i have NO idea what that is.

Dude, sit and think before you post. You're getting excited and running away with things rather than listening to people.

I understand you're not a trans expert or anything, but if you sit down and think about what people are telling you, it will make more sense than continually asking questions.

Beavis drew this picture to demonstrate that rather than machining the LSD itself (which is what I've always heard of people doing), you could dremel out the corner (essentially removing the radius) OR according to turf, you can just cut the pink plastic gear.

In a nutshell, you have a 90* edge and a chamfered edge. They have to fit together. Modify one or the other. kgo.
 
boostdprotegelx said:
so you're saying remove the yellow from the white gear. or remove from the pink gear, what would be, the yello?

No, the WHITE gear is is a sensor that sits in the trans housing that meshes with the pink gear. The pink gear spins the white gear (which is part of the sensor), and the sensor sends data to the car.

You need to remove material from either the diff itself or the pink ring gear that fits onto the diff.
 
boostdprotegelx said:
still again though, would not having a speedometer, cause a check engine light?/

Not to my knowledge.

As for the trans work, I'd only recommend doing it yourself if you're confident that you can do it correctly. There are a lot of little bits and pieces in the trans that could easily get lost and/or overlooked.

If you're not really sure that you can do it correctly, either get someone who has trans experience to help you, take it to a trans shop, or drop it off with me.
 
I can't remember if the orientation of the gear in the pictures posted is right.. I'm not sure if that is upside down or not.. I "think" it is right though... (I put it on upside down on mine the first time (doh!) so my speedo needle will "rattle" a little sometimes when the gears don't make the engagement they should... minor issue. )
 
boostdprotegelx said:
yeah, i won't have a lift. so that sucks. and i must not be good w/ directions.. clearly.i never read s*** on doing the motor swap, i just did it.lol. hands on more or less i suppose is the best for me.

but i've been looking at the write up and it scares me. cuz i didn't know i had to take all the gearing out and w/e.

I'm not recommending this, but when I changed my lsd out my husband gently pulled up on the shafts by the gears and I just slipped the old out and slipped the new in. I didn't feel like taking the gears off nor did I feel comfortable taking the gears off, because this was my first tranny experience.
 
miss_steele_msp said:
I'm not recommending this, but when I changed my lsd out my husband gently pulled up on the shafts by the gears and I just slipped the old out and slipped the new in. I didn't feel like taking the gears off nor did I feel comfortable taking the gears off, because this was my first tranny experience.

That's how I do it. There is really no need to pull the shafts out for the LSD.
 
xelderx said:
That's how I do it. There is really no need to pull the shafts out for the LSD.
ok i'm totally glad you guys said this, because i really didn't wanna pull the gears apart. now that iknow this can be done,, this is how i will go about the work. i feel very confident now, than i can do this as explained.
 
I'm going to finish this thread in one post....

be right back.
 
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