Mazda Appoints New CEO, Prioritises USA - Wonder If Any Immediate Impact On CX-5
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I think at a point the race to add more ratios does get kinda gimmicky. 8 speed could be an improvement if done right... maybe 1-6 are close ratio and then 7 and 8 are overdrive where 7th is used maybe in the 45-55 range and then 8th would kick in for interstate driving that’s 65-85.
I know in my sisters Jeep it has that 9 speed but the engine doesn’t have enough power to get into 9th.... that transmission is a turd too.
10 speeds makes sense in trucks that sometimes have no load and sometime do have a load so you have a lot of range to work with.
I know in my sisters Jeep it has that 9 speed but the engine doesn’t have enough power to get into 9th.... that transmission is a turd too.
10 speeds makes sense in trucks that sometimes have no load and sometime do have a load so you have a lot of range to work with.
Yep, I also wonder how many is enough. Six is a good number but it might be beneficial as you mention to have one or two more gears for higher speeds on the expressway.
I’ve driven a nine speed once and the vehicle was constantly shifting in some situations like cruising up hills. The programming biased towards fuel economy tries to keep the rpms in the economy range but the engine needs the power as well.
As long as we have the manual mode we can then decide when to take over ourselves.
I’ve driven a nine speed once and the vehicle was constantly shifting in some situations like cruising up hills. The programming biased towards fuel economy tries to keep the rpms in the economy range but the engine needs the power as well.
As long as we have the manual mode we can then decide when to take over ourselves.
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- 2014 QX70 AWD
I dont recall where I saw the 8 sp auto info, but it did kind of catch me off guard.
If I can dig it up Ill share the link.
If I can dig it up Ill share the link.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
Other than high compression ratio, Toyota's Dynamic Force engines are not much like SkyActiv-G. Toyota applied different technologies to its Dynamic Force engines which makes them more powerful and efficient than Mazda's SkyActiv-G. In fact, SkyActov-G now no longer has a version of 14:1 CR 2.5L but Dynamic Force offers 14:1 2.5L for hybrid.
The same on transmission. Other than a compact torque convertor and broader gear lockup range, Toyota applied different technologies to its Direct Shift transmissions which makes them the most efficient AT to date.
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- Denver, CO
I've been happy with 6-speed.
Hell the Jeep I learned how to drive on was a 5-speed stick!
Hell the Jeep I learned how to drive on was a 5-speed stick!
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- State of Jefferson
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- 2017 CX-5 GT AWD+
Only from FCA. Amazing that anyone buys their crap.
I'm only in favor of Mazda developing a new 8 speed or 10 speed auto transmission if it
1) increase acceleration
2) improves fuel economy significantly over their existing 6 speed transmission.
I know most people here hate CVTs, me included, but after driving my dad's Accord Sport for 3 straight days, I am starting to change my mind on the CVT. The CVT is actually the best transmission for a daily driver, it is just not a fun one. They are perfect for city driving, but they suck at WOT. So maybe what Mazda should do is a new transmission that is as smooth as a CVT on city/daily driving, but one that is still fun or feels "familiar" during WOT operations. I'm not in favor of Mazda going full on CVT unless they can somehow make it fun to drive.
Some interesting articles on CVTs:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30211/why-cvts-are-awesome-transmissions/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cu...s-an-automatic-and-it-isnt-even-the-best-one/
1) increase acceleration
2) improves fuel economy significantly over their existing 6 speed transmission.
I know most people here hate CVTs, me included, but after driving my dad's Accord Sport for 3 straight days, I am starting to change my mind on the CVT. The CVT is actually the best transmission for a daily driver, it is just not a fun one. They are perfect for city driving, but they suck at WOT. So maybe what Mazda should do is a new transmission that is as smooth as a CVT on city/daily driving, but one that is still fun or feels "familiar" during WOT operations. I'm not in favor of Mazda going full on CVT unless they can somehow make it fun to drive.
Some interesting articles on CVTs:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30211/why-cvts-are-awesome-transmissions/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cu...s-an-automatic-and-it-isnt-even-the-best-one/
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- 2014 QX70 AWD
Hey Finchy- new 6 2.5t reviews say 30-50 and 50-70 passing times exceed new accord 2.0t and v6 Camry, despite the slower 0-60 time. Just what you were hoping for.
If I recall, one of the goals of the new 8 sp was lower rpms at cruising speeds....
If I recall, one of the goals of the new 8 sp was lower rpms at cruising speeds....
Correct, I am quite happy about that. Though a little confused since Motor Trend has the Mazda6 slower in their 45-65 mph test data. I guess I will find out if it is good enough when I finally test drive the car, but that won't be anytime soon hehe. I'm looking to get the Mazda6 2.5T as a CPO. Also waiting a few years to see if Mazda actually adds AWD to the new Mazda3 or Mazda6 with the 2.5T engine.
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- State of Jefferson
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- 2017 CX-5 GT AWD+
Everybody needs to reserve judgement on CVTs until they're actually lived with one.
And of course that won't happen, cause almost everybody has already made up their mind, either from what they've read, or a quick test drive.
They're not all the same, just like conventional transmissions. Some suck. But some are surprisingly good everyday drivers.
And of course that won't happen, cause almost everybody has already made up their mind, either from what they've read, or a quick test drive.
They're not all the same, just like conventional transmissions. Some suck. But some are surprisingly good everyday drivers.
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- Denver, CO
Meh. Test driving 2 different CVT vehicles (Rogue and CR-V) back in 2013 was enough to tell me I didn't want one. I realize they've come a ways since then, but they just don't fit with my drive style.
I get the logical arguments towards a CVT transmission. However, I just haven’t driven one yet I really liked. Some, like Subaru, aren’t terrible but still left a meh impression on me.
Also, I believe the same levels of efficiency can be achieved without going with CVT and on top of that so many, like Subaru again, have them programmed to pretend they’re not a CVT so what’s the point...... at that point.
Also, I believe the same levels of efficiency can be achieved without going with CVT and on top of that so many, like Subaru again, have them programmed to pretend they’re not a CVT so what’s the point...... at that point.
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- Denver, CO
Yeah. Oh ok fake shift points. Ok CVT...
Agreed. Toyota's new 8-speed AT definitely is not a joint venture with Mazda. Toyota announced their 2 new Direct-Shift ATs in Dec. 6, 2016, which means they started thier project development long before share exchange last year between two companies. Not to mention Toyota comes up a 10-speed too. But Toyota seemed to copy many nice features from Mazda's SkyActiv-Drive AT.
And where are those who insisted Mazda does't need to add gears to our 6-speed AT because it's better than 8-speed or 10-speed's?
The Mazda 6 speed currently does the job. I would not object to a Mazsa 8-10 speed automatic so long as it is as well sorted as the 6 speed and most importantly doesn't stumble trying to determine which gear is best etc
Depends if Toyota sees if Mazda is worthwhile for investing
(cheers2)
3) Knows what gear it should be in instead of constantly changing/fumbling around
