Where to after CX-5?

Yes Kaps but the aholes (mostly) that buy them surely like to think that their hero and their large donations to his company are saving the planet. Nope just `looks` and feels better than that old $ V8 s class
 
Model X is 100+ not 70. He did not cross shop tesla and CX-5. He said he would be getting it in 2-3 years. So assuming his family has grown and also he is willing to spend more on a Tesla product.

The thing about people who worship (not simply own) Tesla/Apple products is that it's almost a cult. I have seen folks with the latest iPhone suggesting CiCis pizza for lunch cause it's cheap. And at times the lady ahead of you price matching a pack of gums at local grocery in SoCal might own a Tesla. You are better off buying a Yaris instead of Tesla if you love environment- but it's not about environment. A Chevy Volt is faar better than Tesla for environment.

This is true. I own Samsung and don't have the plan to spend near 6 figures on a car that could burn my garage down randomly one day while "charging" or even just sitting there.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...atches-fire-at-supercharger-station-in-norway
http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-toronto-garage-ev-was-not-plugged-in/

Have yet to see a CX5 burn anyone's garage...
 
This is true. I own Samsung and don't have the plan to spend near 6 figures on a car that could burn my garage down randomly one day while "charging" or even just sitting there.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...atches-fire-at-supercharger-station-in-norway
http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-toronto-garage-ev-was-not-plugged-in/

Have yet to see a CX5 burn anyone's garage...

It appears that the Tesla that was just sitting there was burned down by the garage. the Garage had way more damage then the car and the


U.S. fire departments responded to an estimated average of 152,300 automobile fires per year in the 2006-2010 time period. These fires caused an average of 209 civilian deaths, 764 civilian injuries, and $536 million in direct property damage.

Facts and Figures

Automobile fires were involved in 10% of reported U.S. fires, 6% of U.S. fire deaths.
On average, 17 automobile fires were reported per hour. These fires killed an average of four people every week.
Mechanical or electrical failures or malfunctions were factors in roughly two-thirds of the automobile fires.
Collisions and overturns were factors in only 4% of highway vehicle fires, but these incidents accounted for three of every five (60%) automobile fire deaths.
Only 2%of automobile fires began in fuel tanks or fuel lines, but these incidents caused 15% of the automobile fire deaths.
Although collisions or overturns were factors in only 3% of the fires, 58% of the deaths resulted from these incidents. Older vehicles were more likely to have a fire caused by mechanical or electrical failures.
According to the U.S Federal Highway Administration data, roughly 2,980 billion miles were driven, on average, per year on U.S. roads during this period. Roughly 90 highway vehicle fires and 0.15 highway vehicle fire deaths were reported per billion miles driven.

As of 2014 The billion electric mile mark comparison As for the five Model S fires in question, the true cause of one is still under investigation, but with well over 125,000,000 Tesla miles, we would still need 11 Tesla fires to equal the fires of the tried and true Internal Combustion Engine.

http://insideevs.com/number-of-fire-related-deaths-per-year-caused-by-evs/

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It appears that the Tesla that was just sitting there was burned down by the garage. the Garage had way more damage then the car and the


U.S. fire departments responded to an estimated average of 152,300 automobile fires per year in the 2006-2010 time period. These fires caused an average of 209 civilian deaths, 764 civilian injuries, and $536 million in direct property damage.

Facts and Figures

Automobile fires were involved in 10% of reported U.S. fires, 6% of U.S. fire deaths.
On average, 17 automobile fires were reported per hour. These fires killed an average of four people every week.
Mechanical or electrical failures or malfunctions were factors in roughly two-thirds of the automobile fires.
Collisions and overturns were factors in only 4% of highway vehicle fires, but these incidents accounted for three of every five (60%) automobile fire deaths.
Only 2%of automobile fires began in fuel tanks or fuel lines, but these incidents caused 15% of the automobile fire deaths.
Although collisions or overturns were factors in only 3% of the fires, 58% of the deaths resulted from these incidents. Older vehicles were more likely to have a fire caused by mechanical or electrical failures.
According to the U.S Federal Highway Administration data, roughly 2,980 billion miles were driven, on average, per year on U.S. roads during this period. Roughly 90 highway vehicle fires and 0.15 highway vehicle fire deaths were reported per billion miles driven.

As of 2014 The billion electric mile mark comparison As for the five Model S fires in question, the true cause of one is still under investigation, but with well over 125,000,000 Tesla miles, we would still need 11 Tesla fires to equal the fires of the tried and true Internal Combustion Engine.

http://insideevs.com/number-of-fire-related-deaths-per-year-caused-by-evs/

MazdaFireB20160314RM.jpg


07-21-carfire.jpg
How many cx5 have had spontaneous fires?
 
We don't know because ICE vehicle fires don't make the news.

Nice thing about ICE is the fuel. It doesn't react violently if it gets wet. It doesn't have to be partitioned off so it doesn't explode from touching itself, etc. Lithium batteries cannot claim the same
 
Nice thing about ICE is the fuel. It doesn't react violently if it gets wet. It doesn't have to be partitioned off so it doesn't explode from touching itself, etc. Lithium batteries cannot claim the same
.

And yet On average, 17 automobile fires were reported per hour. These fires killed an average of four people every week.
 
My puns have been known to burn friendships. If you don't like it, you can kiss my ash.
 
I know there has been a lot of info already but I just ran across this info about what Tesla has done to better protect against fire. The odds of fire in a Model S, at roughly 1 in 8,000 vehicles, were five times lower than those of an average gasoline car but they are working on improving those odds.
https://medium.com/@teslamotors/tes...inum-deflector-plates-to-model-s-544f35965a0d

Sadly, the odds of a Tesla working properly, are many times lower, lol!

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/9085/why-is-teslas-quality-control-still-so-poor
https://electrek.co/2017/03/21/tesla-quality-issue-model-3-owners-jd-power/
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/au...y-issues-tesla-owners-bond-their-cars-n737111
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-warranty-idUSKCN0XO1M3
http://autoweek.com/article/tesla/why-wont-tesla-participate-jd-power-quality-survey
By all means, buy the Chrysler-looks-like-Toyota-by-comparison vehicle, lol!
 
There isn't a single wagon offered in the US on the road today I would buy, because the only ones I kind of like are German... and I have no interest in going down that road. Volvos are nice, but don't really want one at the moment either. But the new XC60 looks good.

The shortage of good wagon options in the NA market disappoints me too. I want something with a rear hatch or liftgate where I can fold the rear seats down and have an open cargo area, but strongly prefer a wagon over a SUV/CUV. My wife has imposed the additional requirement of AWD in case we need to go somewhere in a snowstorm. The only mainstream options are Subaru and Volkswagon. My wife had an Outback XT for 10 years (which I get to drive now :() and it's too soft and sluggish for me, not to mention it's been a money pit. VW's Golf Alltrack is interesting, but our last VW (Jetta GLX VR6) was a disaster in terms of reliability. After that and the emissions cheating scandal, I don't want to give them my money.

Of the luxury wagons, the one I would like to own is the BMW 3-series wagon, but they are dearly priced and expensive to maintain. Out of my price range really. The old X1 was kind of a cross between a wagon and CUV. I might look at a used one if it has enough room. Volvos don't interest me. They drive like Toyotas. And I'm not a fan of their recent interior styling, or the ass-end that looks like a CR-V. The Buick Regal TourX is another upcoming option that might be worth looking at, but if it's like most Buicks it probably drives like a wet sponge.
 
Have you driven a Volvo lately? Man, that V60. That's the wagon to beat imo.
 
I don't understand the love for wagons personally. Is it the cargo space?

I always picture the ol' family truckster. :)

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Don't take this the wrong way, but you come across as being very young. You've used inclusive pronouns when describing your dad's 6, so I'm thinking you might still live at home? I've had everything from a Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 to a 4-Runner. Over time I've learned what I need in my life. My 500 ft driveway can also get a bit rough in the winter months. Crossovers and SUVs are what we prefer for their drivetrains and utility space.

YMMV

No sir. I daily drive the 528i as mentioned in my signature. I was using the inclusive pronouns because I help service the Mazda like tires oil changes etc and sometimes we switch cars.
 
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