Need maintenance suggestion 2013 cx5 sports awd
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mazdadude
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- '16.5 Mazda CX-5 Touring
On this picture of the PE5R-18-110 OEM parts box we can see the NGK # ILKAR7L11
Here is the ILKAR7L11 plug on amazon...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/ (commissions earned)
The only other application I am seeing listed for these plugs is a NISSAN LAFESTA HIGHWAY STAR, which interestingly enough, is simply the MAZDA5 Van, with the Skyactiv motor that Mazda sold to Nissan that they rebadged and sold.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
Didn't know there's a "mini" van which is equivalent to now defunct Mazda5 with a SkyActiv-G engine in there! Wish Mazda actually offered Mazda5 with SkyActiv Technology to the US customers.On this picture of the PE5R-18-110 OEM parts box we can see the NGK # ILKAR7L11
Here is the ILKAR7L11 plug on amazon...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/ (commissions earned)
The only other application I am seeing listed for these plugs is a NISSAN LAFESTA HIGHWAY STAR, which interestingly enough, is simply the MAZDA5 Van, with the Skyactiv motor that Mazda sold to Nissan that they rebadged and sold.
Thanks for digging in these plug information. NGK (94124) ILKAR7L11 Laser Iridium spark plug costs $16.60 each list which is more likely compatible or the same as $31.75 list Mazda PE5R-18-110 plug. I may consider getting NGK plugs to save $60 with full confidence. But since it's a once for every 75K-mile event, I may still get Mazda PE5R-18-110 plugs as my past experience and nature instinct still always believe using OEM parts with my own labor. I definitely wouldn't use even-lower-priced Denso plugs with no evedence that they're equivalent.
I agree the markup on OEM parts is high, but the markup percentage from their cost is always a fixed number. The price on Mazda OEM oil filter and moly oil are not much higher than aftermarket oil filter and Castrol oil. The cost of Mazda plug must be high for a reason. They won't simply mark up 300% from their cost only on spark plug!
sbronemann
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- 2014 Meteor Grey Mazda 6 Touring
In my old '14 Mazda 6, I changed the plugs at 70k. Called the local Mazda dealership for a quote on plugs. He said $30 and some change. I said no way. He said honestly, they are made by NGK, gave me the NGK number and ordered them for NGK online and they were like $9 a piece. 5 minute job to change all 4 including taking the coils off. Easiest spark plug job ever. Dealerships love screwing customers.
This is not completely true, it will vary from dealer to dealer. But, most of them have higher percentage mark-ups on lower price items - their justification being that they still have to pay the labor, storage, and cost of money for the products being sold.
I can also agree with the OEM parts thing if you are DIY, since you are saving so much money with your free labor - but if the exact same part made by the same manufacturer can be had for cheaper, why pay the Brand Mark Up?
When I did the timing belt in my protege - I used a Bando belt and components, because they are the OEM supplier for that car and I felt confident using that brand. But, you have to be careful and do research on this as well, because a lot of the manufacturers will have a cheaper formula for their own line of stuff as compared to the OEM Mazda stuff. But usually, it will still be of good quality, just not up to the Mazda specs.
And whatever anyone does - STAY AWAY from CHINESE knock off PARTS!! It will just cause headaches.
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- mazda cx5 13
Thanks everyone for your suggestions! I did get the brake fluid flushed today for $80 at the dealer with some coupons and discounts. They said they would flush at each caliper. And they also gave me a free oil change. Overall, seemed like a very decent price. I would however change the park plugs myself in the next few days following the guidelines provided here:
http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Mazda-CX-5-Skyactiv-G-Engine-Spark-Plugs-Replacement-Guide/
It doesn't look too hard. Now I need to get the tools and parts.
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http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Mazda-CX-5-Skyactiv-G-Engine-Spark-Plugs-Replacement-Guide/
It doesn't look too hard. Now I need to get the tools and parts.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
$80 for brake fluid flush and oil change is indeed an excellent price! Have you found out what kind of oil your dealer uses? And have you decided what kind of spark plugs you're going to get? Getting these plugs online is the cheaper way, such as from Med Center Mazda - our sponsor for genuine plugs. NGK plugs are the legit alternative. It's not too hard to change spark plugs, but make sure you don't want to over-tighten the plugs and strip the thread on cylinder head!
Actually the next thing I'd do in your situation is drain-and-fill ATF with OEM Mazda ATF FZ. You can wait a bit on spark plug replacement until 75,000 miles.
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- mazda cx5 13
Forgot to ask what kind of oil they used. I will ask them the next time I go for oil change.
I was thinking of NKG, but i will look into your suggestion.
Other things will follow soon after. So far I do not have any tool, but I am fairly confident that I can do these maintenance myself...provided decent instructions. Do you have any suggestion for tool box? Buying them individually will cost a lot more I guess.
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Chris_Top_Her
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- San Antonio, Texas
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- '15 CX-5 Miata AWD
Honestly all you need is a metric socket/box wrench set, 8mm- 19mm (22mm-24mm for transfer case/rear diff). A ratchet, a screw driver (electric is nice for removing underbody panels). And then you need a spark plug socket, they usually have a little rubber insert to lessen stress on the ceramic of a spark plug. A small torque wrench is very useful, especially when tightening plugs as they are broken fairly easily. A jack and jackstands. An allen wrench or bit set for the oil drain plug. I would wait until black Friday and you can get this stuff for extra cheap at harbour freight.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
Dealers use the cheapest bulk oil they can find and car manufactures normally have no power to assure their dealers using their recommended oil. My Mazda dealer uses "Preferred Choice"(eek2) 0W-20 oil for standard oil change. Only $10 more to use Mazda moly oil.
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- Plano, Texas, USA
Chris_Top_Her has given you the best suggestion getting some basic tools for DIYer with a CX-5 without spending too much money, especially when the Black Friday is coming.
I have been using Sears Craftsman tools since early days when there's not much good tools with decent price available. At time Craftsman tools all were made in the USA and offered life-time "unlimited" warranty! Now we have Harbor Freight Tools and the tools they sell are always cheap but good enough for average DIYers.
A tool box for a starter? How about this Craftsman 17" Hand Tool Box Model: 271210 now is selling for only $7.99 at Sears Outlet Store if you have one near by:
Nothing is better for a DIYer starting with an easy oil change on his CX-5. Here is an excellent how-to from tomcat1446 in CX-5 Oil Change with Filter for oil change on our CX-5 (unfortunately I just noticed we can't see his photos for some reason):
just did my first oil change, and agreed with other CX-5 owners : the easiest oil job ever.
one question, did anyone do this without ramps ? I tried but there wasn't enough space for me....
only hiccup was I had a very hard time getting the old aluminum crush washer off the drain plug flange, it was really stuck on there, I had to use an xacto knife blade to separate the old crush washer from the drain plug.
note: I can easily see for any first timer to think that there is no crush washer or if they lost the crush washer when it's actually there stuck on the plug flange, I thought the same thing it looked like one piece and the crush washer was missing, but when I compared the new crush washer supplied by Med center Mazda versus the drain plug, I can clearly see the crush washer stuck on there. I used a miniature flat blade screwdriver but that didn't work so I used an Xacto knife to get that damn thing off. I hope no one doubled up on the crush washers thinking the original crush washer was part of the drain plug.
everything was exactly as other posters have said, drain plug is a 8mm hex socket type, so you'll need an 8mm allen key to loosen the plug, and make sure it is inserted all the way into the drain plug before turning. I recommend using a high quality high torque type, don't use those you find at dollar stores, I brought mine from McMaster, it is very high quality made by Wera Tools
McMaster p/n 57185A28 $2.54
https://www.mcmaster.com/#57185a28/=14t9trr
Also, I used Lisle 63600 oil filter tool, highly recommend this, it's idiot proof, only works one way (allows you to loosen only, when installing new filter, hand tighten only don't use wrench) https://www.amazon.com/dp/ (commissions earned)
like others, I decided to stick with what came with the car and use Mazda moly oil bought from our forum sponsor Med Mazda sold as a set: 5 qt. 0W-20 moly oil, Mazda oil filter, and crush washer
not sure if it matters, but I also pre-filled the new filter with new oil just to make sure when I re-start car there's no oil flow void....
with regards to crush washer, I noticed there was a smooth stamped side and a sharp edge burr side due to the stamping process, I made sure the smooth side is up against the oil tank to prevent scratching /rusting
for those interested, here are the p/n's off the packing list:
oil filter : PE01-14-302A
crush washer: 9956-41-400
Can you confirm the p/n of your OEM oil filter from Med Center Mazda actually is 1WPE-14-302 from Thailand instead of PE01-14-302A from Japan? I just got an OEM oil filter from my Mazda dealer and Mazda parts system has superseded Japan made PE01-14-302A to Thailand made 1WPE-14-302.
1WPE-14-302 oil filter ???
We appreciate your detailed oil change write-up with many pictures and a picture is worth a thousand words! BTW, I use Craftsman ⅜" drive 8mm hex bit socket for drain plug so that I can conveniently use a ratchet or use a torque wrench if I want to.
