Hard to argue with that
What have you done to your Miata today?
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Hard to argue with that
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- 92 & 16 Meyatas
got the car back this afternoon, went for a nice little cruz.....fun times are back!
I need to figure out what weight fluid was put in to the MSM's 5 speed when it was swapped out in 2010. Thanks to the 6 puck, unsprung clutch, I get a lot of gear chatter noises if I push in the clutch at low speeds / low rpm after moving. Usually parking lot or stop and go traffic type stuff. I'm sure it's not good for the gearbox. If something a little thicker will help that, I'm on board so that I don't have to buy another transmission.
Heh, I don't know if anything can save you from a new transmission, eventually, with an un-sprung 6-puck. My sprung 6-puck is bad enough...
You might consider Red Line Lightweight Shock Proof. It did wonders for my friend's MR2 transmission. It seems geared (har har) towards racing transmission use, I would guess the thicker fluid film (that Red Line claims) would tend to dampen gear engagement, at least a little. It might buy you some more time.
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=43&pcid=7
I'm not a transmission oil expert, just trying to interpret all of the research I've done as best I know how.
princess peach
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- '92 Miata, '06 MS6
I believe we used redline mt-90
I do my best. However, instead of coming on like an ass you could probably ask why I made that statement in the first place.
Finally got the car started today. Ran into a few issues (timing being off and the VVT was clogged so I have all the old VVT s*** on the new VC) and my OEM timing wheel back on.
Then when we got that fixed, started the car and it sounded like a damn rotary. Upon further investigation, noticed that the harness for the coilpack was ****** up. Crimped the wire, threw some electrical tape on it, car runs like a champ.
I do still want to get that timing wheel back on. I need more power!
Then when we got that fixed, started the car and it sounded like a damn rotary. Upon further investigation, noticed that the harness for the coilpack was ****** up. Crimped the wire, threw some electrical tape on it, car runs like a champ.
I do still want to get that timing wheel back on. I need more power!
Okay, why did you state that GM Synchromesh was the only transmission oil that anyone should use, ever?
I did not intend to offend you, and I'm sorry if I came off sounding like an ass, but I cannot let statements like yours slide. Stating that using Syncrhomesh (which is basically 5W30 motor oil with some additives) in place of 75W90 gear oi, is the only option anyone should consider is indeed absolute and uninformed. Your statement left no room for other options, and made no regard to any vehicle's intended use, modifications, or current symptoms. It could give someone a really bad idea and they could wind up trashing a transmission.
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Nice edit. I am glad I copy and pasted before this....
Because of research and personal use. I had a 2006 MS6 which has the same motor and tranny you have in your MS3.. Now, the 2006 MS6 had issues with shifting between the 2006 and 2007 models. This is why Mazda had a TSB for it, and it was done on my MS6 when I had it...
However, I still had a notchy feeling in my MS6 while shifting. I did some research, just like you mentioned, and noticed a lot of it was negated by swapping to GM Synchromesh... My original thought was "Wtf are these people thinking?!", but I did it on blind faith and swapped. Ever since I swapped to it, I had no issues in shifting and I can have 5, yes FIVE, people tell me that my MS6 shifts so much easier than other cars.
Let's fast forward to my current car... A 10AE with 139k on it... It has GM Synchromesh in it too. The car shifts like a friggin champ. I have put it through some scenarios that you would call "extreme" and it holds up just fine. Also, and I hate to name drop, but Shadow102 is a certified mechanic and has been doing it for years now... I will take his word based upon experience and knowledge instead of some internet guy who takes is car out only when it is above 50 degrees....
When it comes to oil for anything there are many things thing to be considered. Most companies that claim "true synthetic" are really not. Most are a class 3 dino oil that has been "hydrocracked" and modified to be a synthetic. This is not only for engine motor oil, but others as well. Some of those additives are really beneficial to trannys, engines, and such. So in reality, you and I are right.
There are numerous things that marketing does for oils, and your AMSOIL guy is guilty of, that make us believe they are better than others. There is so much involved in oils for our cars that we can't even imagine unless you have a degree in it and work in the industry. Haha....
In the end, go with what works for you but don't just brush off someone who has had experience and such.
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If you carefully read what I have written, even in my original post, I never said you were wrong or that GM synchromesh was a bad product. Like I said, it's your attitude that one transmission oil is the best choice for everyone that I take exception to. I have no doubt that you, and others, have seen improved shifting from using GM synchromesh. I have read many accounts that swear by it. Many others claim that FoMoCo transmission oil is the best thing to use, both in Miatas and MS3s. Flyin' Miata, one of the premiere Miata shops in the world, says that Red Line is the only way to go. Is Shadow102 right about GM synchromesh and Keith Tanner wrong about Red Line? That is certainly what you're implying.
I'm just asking for a little moderation when suggesting or endorsing something to other forum members.
I have no doubt that some oil companies falsely market some oils as fully synthetic when they are not. However, my 'AMSoil guy' (formerly Red Line fanboi) only signed up to be an AMSoil dealer after an extensive amount of research, including UOAs, showed that AMSoil was indeed one of the best oils available. If you can find any credible evidence to contradict their claims, I would love to see it. I have never found any.
Feel free to disregard anything I say, I'm just 'some internet guy who doesn't drive his summer car when it's cold.' There is no way I could be a mechanical engineer with years of experience designing, building, maintaining, tuning, and driving a number of racecars in a variety of events.
I'm just asking for a little moderation when suggesting or endorsing something to other forum members.
I have no doubt that some oil companies falsely market some oils as fully synthetic when they are not. However, my 'AMSoil guy' (formerly Red Line fanboi) only signed up to be an AMSoil dealer after an extensive amount of research, including UOAs, showed that AMSoil was indeed one of the best oils available. If you can find any credible evidence to contradict their claims, I would love to see it. I have never found any.
Feel free to disregard anything I say, I'm just 'some internet guy who doesn't drive his summer car when it's cold.' There is no way I could be a mechanical engineer with years of experience designing, building, maintaining, tuning, and driving a number of racecars in a variety of events.
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- 96 Miata M-Edition, 2015 Mazda 3 Hatch
Not to add fuel to the fire here, but per a friend's recommendation, I used the Ford fully synthetic gear oil the last time I did my transmission. I had used redline previously. The difference has been night and day. I have a 96 5 speed, and with redline, it was like shifting through pudding. It is a completely different car with the Ford gear oil, even at cold temperatures.
I have only used Motorcraft, so I can't compare...
But, I agree with James are far as his comments on how you presented your opinion, sub. Everyone has their opinions on what they like and why with regards to everything not just transmission fluid. To make a blanket statement that "x product is the best period" isn't really fair. But yeah that's just my $0.02.
But, I agree with James are far as his comments on how you presented your opinion, sub. Everyone has their opinions on what they like and why with regards to everything not just transmission fluid. To make a blanket statement that "x product is the best period" isn't really fair. But yeah that's just my $0.02.
Is that normal? I don't know much about the care and feeding of NCs.
You apparently missed this statement....
I ran the wonderful and amazing 10AE I have through its limits today.. I was supposed to travel for work today, but it didn't happen. So, I took the 10AE for a wonderful and scenic drive.
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This is normal for acid type batteries. I did it with my Mazdaspeed 6 once.....
Only if I can piss in your Cheerios in the morning.
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- 92 & 16 Meyatas
all this fluid talk is making me.......needing to go!
