What exhaust system do I have; and what could I replace it with?
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my suggestions:
-buy the CS downpipe new for $350, or wait until people put some of the older ones up. theyll be cheaper (~200?) but youll have to wait about a month, and theyll be used.
-catted midpipes arent super-common. you may just want to shell out the 200-300 to get one brand new.
-find a used OEM exhaust. these will be cheap, quiet, but more than sufficient. the catbacks are good on the MSP its the midpipe that sucks. they shouldnt be too expensive.
-buy the CS downpipe new for $350, or wait until people put some of the older ones up. theyll be cheaper (~200?) but youll have to wait about a month, and theyll be used.
-catted midpipes arent super-common. you may just want to shell out the 200-300 to get one brand new.
-find a used OEM exhaust. these will be cheap, quiet, but more than sufficient. the catbacks are good on the MSP its the midpipe that sucks. they shouldnt be too expensive.
yeah, price. you pay for a resonator and to get it welded in. i cant imagine you come away with spending less than 200 on that, and at that point, theres cheaper and better options out there.
also, exhausts are generally somewhat tuned when they pick a resonator... i dont know the specifics, but they dont just grab one and call it a day.
[edit: honestly, i would look for the OEM catback if youre concerned with volume. plus a midpipe and downpipe will all bolt up. its not instant gratification, but you can piece it together bit by bit.]
also, exhausts are generally somewhat tuned when they pick a resonator... i dont know the specifics, but they dont just grab one and call it a day.
[edit: honestly, i would look for the OEM catback if youre concerned with volume. plus a midpipe and downpipe will all bolt up. its not instant gratification, but you can piece it together bit by bit.]
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I was afraid someone was going to say that.
Could you be implying that the resonator and muffler in the OEM catback are tuned to work together? If so, wouldn't they have been tuned to work together while taking the rest of the OEM exhaust (OEM downpipe and OEM twin-cat midpipe) into consideration as well?
So If I take such a tuned OEM cat-back, and attach it to a different (aftermarket) downpipe and a single-cat midpipe than the tuned OEM catback was originally designed to work with, wouldn't that make the OEM catback out-of-tune (since it's not attached to the components it was originally tuned with)?
Presuming my assumptions are correct, then throwing a resonator into a Corck Spport exhaust won't be much different than taking an OEM catback and attaching it to an aftermarket, non-OEM exhaust. Either solution is made up of components that weren't tuned to work together; so either way, it's a gamble no matter which route I take.
Or is it?
On a side note:
Things are as straight forward as I thought they'd be. Then again, they seldom are.
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Please don't infer that I'm telling someone to run 14PSI. I NEVER SAID THAT!! I only said one person that I know of is. So now if that's what he wants to do he can search Bill or PM Bill himself and ask a bunch of questions.
s*** I'm only running 4 psi so you know I'm not one to push people to run big boost!
Now back to the main topic of exhaust.
Like what's been mentioned before:
Best performance with quitest possible sound taken into consideration. Is to find a stock MSP cat back or for that matter an aftermarket RacingBeat Cat back (aftermarket non OEM ones supposedly had a slightly deeper note).
See if you can find a V1 Corksport downpipe. It was 2 piece like the stocker. The new V2 is one piece. That way you can run which ever mid pipe you choose. Some brands made the midpipe with and without the J section included. By using the V1 CS DP you don't have to funnel your choices into only a few!! I know several members picked up the catless ones found on ebay for about $125. I ran a catless ApexR1 midpipe mated to the stock MSP catback and my note barly changed but I could feel the performance increase. In all reality if your not ready for the whole thing the DP could be found and installed last.
youre making entirely, entirely too much out of it.
yes resonators are tuned, but its not like youll lose 30whp if you just weld one in. you would be far from the first person to do it. theyre usually tuned for the physical pipe theyre on and the muffler selection. at most, it probably nets you 1whp and gets you closer to the manufacturers desired exhaust note. aftermarket catbacks have some tuning, but they dont scrutinize it to the point theyre considering "what midpipe is this guy on"... they get the most benefit they can from having an engineer or tech look at it for a few hours.
what kind of budget are you on, by the way?
and again, if i was making the choice for you, i would get almost any resonated catback, a 2.5" midpipe, and the CS downpipe - two piece or one piece.
youll have a resonator designed to work with the system, its pretty quiet, it will be slightly louder and deeper because of the improved down/midpipe but thats your best option, period.
i would not hack up a catback to add a resonator when theres better, quieter, and cheaper options out there. you know youll be happy with a resonated catback, but if you add one, its a risk. why take the chance?
options - OEM, racing beat, i think megan racing had one(?), and if you can find it, the greddy unit is outstanding. ive NEVER seen a greddy catback get sold on here in almost 2 years though, so good luck.
yes resonators are tuned, but its not like youll lose 30whp if you just weld one in. you would be far from the first person to do it. theyre usually tuned for the physical pipe theyre on and the muffler selection. at most, it probably nets you 1whp and gets you closer to the manufacturers desired exhaust note. aftermarket catbacks have some tuning, but they dont scrutinize it to the point theyre considering "what midpipe is this guy on"... they get the most benefit they can from having an engineer or tech look at it for a few hours.
what kind of budget are you on, by the way?
and again, if i was making the choice for you, i would get almost any resonated catback, a 2.5" midpipe, and the CS downpipe - two piece or one piece.
youll have a resonator designed to work with the system, its pretty quiet, it will be slightly louder and deeper because of the improved down/midpipe but thats your best option, period.
i would not hack up a catback to add a resonator when theres better, quieter, and cheaper options out there. you know youll be happy with a resonated catback, but if you add one, its a risk. why take the chance?
options - OEM, racing beat, i think megan racing had one(?), and if you can find it, the greddy unit is outstanding. ive NEVER seen a greddy catback get sold on here in almost 2 years though, so good luck.
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here I found some in the FS
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...pipe-downpipe-all-kinds-of-exhuasty-goodies**
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123786954-iON-3-downpipe.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...peed-Catback-Stock-intercooler-and-piping-etc...
That should get you started
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...pipe-downpipe-all-kinds-of-exhuasty-goodies**
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123786954-iON-3-downpipe.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...peed-Catback-Stock-intercooler-and-piping-etc...
That should get you started
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Here's my setup and it's actually pretty quiet with a little sound to it unless you get on it. Cs downpipe, catted mam midpipe and stock racing beat cat back. The sound is a big difference on it and you can still hear it but not annoying loud just like a hum but if you still want louder just a tad I would take the resonator off the stock cat back and leave it like that.
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I thought my old ApexR1 midpipe was rare that MAM is even rarer. LOL
I think the key here is the stock MSP cat back
I think the key here is the stock MSP cat back
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- 03.5 MSP
I agree with you, this is why I bought the mam once it
popped up in the for sale thread. Didn't even think about it
popped up in the for sale thread. Didn't even think about it
