Made the switch

Antonio DiMarco

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2010 Mazda CX-9 GT Dolphin Gray
Well after many months of consideration I finally took the plunge and traded my MS3 for an Mz6 GT V6 in Ebony Black w/tech. It's only been a couple of days but so far I'm pretty happy. Took a long drive last night "for the helluva it". It was the most relaxing, yet invigorating drive I've had in a while. The MS3 while exciting did have a tendancy to get me high strung, even when I'd rather be relaxed.

For those of you wondering why I would trade my wild child for a more mature Zoom-Zoom it was mainly due to size and NVH. I also missed having a Black car. And although the 6 is a more isolated ride, it still has a zoom-zoom and and IMO killer looks. This car may be larger than the last 6, but it looks and feels wonderful. And my kids love the extra foot room and gadgets. I'm even getting used to the excellent automatic (my first automatic ever). Those of you who fault Mazda moving to a larger design may not need the extra room, but I'll tell you, for two growing boys and my lean 6'3" frame it's a mighty comfortable car.

Among my favorite options are Bluetooth and the push button start with the keyless entry/exit. Got to love those sensors on the door handles. It's a lot of car for the under 30K I paid, and arguably a helluva lot sexier and upscale than other midsize Japanese competitors.

I feel more grown up, yet still a little impish...:-)

Picts and an avatar change to come...
 
I've only got 550 miles on the odo (200 of which were mine)' and so far quite pleased. (The headlights could stand to be a little better)
My observation of reading around the net: - the only people who are displeased with the new gen are the old gen owners.
I needed something a little bigger, and this filled the bill.
Congrats on the new ride!
 
The headlights seem OK to me but...

I've only got 550 miles on the odo (200 of which were mine)' and so far quite pleased. (The headlights could stand to be a little better)
My observation of reading around the net: - the only people who are displeased with the new gen are the old gen owners.
I needed something a little bigger, and this filled the bill.
Congrats on the new ride!

The only points that I'm not totally fond of is weak seat bolsters, the small glovebox (the MS3 had a huge glovebox) and the steering wheel. Althought the diameter of the wheel is excellent it doesn't have enough upward tilt to reveal the upper edges of the guage cluster for my preferred seating position, as a result the 10 to 12 oclock position of the tach and the 12 to 2 oclock position for the Speedo are cut off. Not a dealbreaker by any means, just something I need to get use to. BTW the quality of materials is pretty impressive. Mazdas "Million Mile Tested" Marketing surrounding the 6 appears to be more than just hype. This car feels well build and solid- much more solid than the MS3. The MS3 had pretty nice materials for it's price, but the Mz6 not only has better plastics but is screwed together pretty tight. Also the Bose system is a HUGE improvement over the one in the 08 MS3.
 
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Excellent review...I have a feeling more and more people are and or will be in your shoes...Great thread and information...Keep it coming...Thanks for sharing! (2thumbs)
 
I've only got 550 miles on the odo (200 of which were mine)' and so far quite pleased. (The headlights could stand to be a little better)

When we first got our 6 my wife was complaining that the headlights didn't seem to illuminate the highway as well as our old GM car did. (She drives the car much more than I do.) But, I was thinking the same thing and I just thought it was the design of the car that was causing this lighting problem.
Anyway, I showed her the headlight height adjustment wheel and how you can adjust the height of the headlights if you are hauling a heavy load in the backseat or in the trunk.
After adjusting the headlights several times to the maximums things seemed to be "brighter" ahead of us and more important, illuminated the edges of the highway. (This is very important to me living in deer country!)
So, I'd suggest playing with the headlight leveling wheel several times and maybe that will help like it did for us.
 
Whoa...

OK, so it turns out the 2010 Mz6 GT V6 is just like every other Mazda I've owned, with the exception of the MS3. The real fun comes when you push the beast at which point it's claws come out and it begs for more thrasing. I didn't push too hard since I'm only at 300 miles but upshifts at around 4k yielded some pretty impressive pull from the V6 and this car, while more isolated from the tarmac compared to my MS3, loves the twisties and rewards the driver with stable and extremely fun handling. By comparison despite being a good DD, the MS3 was always "pulling at the chain" which could get exhausting between the extremely firm suspension and constant gurgle from the exhaust. Like I said I loved my MS3 but the Mz6 is so much more of a livable yet incredibly satisfying car to drive. I think it will only get better as she breaks in. I'm starting to think that people/reviewers who have called the Mz6 a medoicre, non-zoom-zoom drive really haven't opened her up and instead have driven her like a camry- slow and steady. Well like all Mazdas this machine has dual personalities which makes not only long drives enjoyable, but those twisties that come in the form of offramps and secondary roads something to look forward to.

I drove over 150 miles today and didn't want to stop. The V6, the balance and the refinement of the Mz6 is really in a different league from the cars that many people choose to group this car with.

Oh and the styling is killer. Super sexy and european...makes me feel like I'm driving a very exclusive car without paying the premium.

BTW the Blind Spot Monitor (BSM) has been working flawlessly and has already prevented me form moving into a occupied lane where the car was in my blind spot.

I just hope the black paint holds up better than my MS3's silver paint.
 
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I'm starting to think that people/reviewers who have called the Mz6 a medoicre, non-zoom-zoom drive really haven't opened her up and instead have driven her like a camry- slow and steady.

There is something you have to consider are the reviews for the 4cl or the V6? because there is a huge difference between both and I am sure most of the ppl that complain or call the mz6 mediocre probably drove the 4cl
 
Good point

There is something you have to consider are the reviews for the 4cl or the V6? because there is a huge difference between both and I am sure most of the ppl that complain or call the mz6 mediocre probably drove the 4cl

That's probably true. With the price of gas gouging at everyone's pocketbook the 4 has gotten more exposure. I drove the 4 and found it adequate. The V6 is a different beast altogether. Havign come from a MS3 I can honestly say that even without being fully broken in the power of the V6 is impressive and very smooth. It appears to wake up right around 4k and pulls like a train from there. I have not pushed it beyond 5k though. Trying to be good for the first 1K.
 
Nice. I am also considering trading in my MS3 for either a S40, 6 or RX8. I know both of those are 3 different cars, but like yourself the family is growing and would like something a little bit more "mature". How is the overall highway acceleration? Does it feel heavy when you get on it?
 
Dual personalities

Nice. I am also considering trading in my MS3 for either a S40, 6 or RX8. I know both of those are 3 different cars, but like yourself the family is growing and would like something a little bit more "mature". How is the overall highway acceleration? Does it feel heavy when you get on it?

It a funny dichotomy. The GT V6, Mz6 is a deceptive ride with two distinct personalities. The first personality is comfortable highway cruiser, i.e. it will just lumber along happily at highway speeds forever. It's this aspect of it's personality that I believe tricks people who take it for a spin/short test drive into thinking it lacks any zoom-zoom. I originally felt this way when I drove it a year back. Nice car but a bit soft. I now realize that I wasn't really DRIVING it.

The second aspect of it's split personality comes in when you start using the manu-matic shift and wring the V6 engine's neck a bit. This V6 pulls like a train when it starts to really breath up around 3-4K and then a huge rush of power comes in at over 4K with the sound of a turbine. Admittedly I haven't really beat it up too much since I still have less than 1K on it, but on the highway it's deceptively fast. When you want to pass this thing passes and does it with smooth and confident authority. Unlike the MS3, the 6th gear is a true, gas-saving overdrive gear, so I does require a manual downshift (manumatic), or a stiff stab of the accelerator (non-manumatic) to wake it up. But it's in no way annoying (especially when using the manumatic), in fact I'm finding the faster shifts afforded by the manumatic, much more involivng than the 6speed/clutch in the MS3. Call me crazy. I've since switched out the stadard alloys and tires with steelies and winter tires so I've been keeping the speed down, but it doesn't take much for the car to start poking 90 to 100mph.

I've also found that it's been limbering up a bit over the last few hundred miles. When I first picked it up it seemed to resist sccelerating and didn't like cruising at 80, rather it felt more comfortable at 65. But over the past 4-500 miles the drivetrain appears to be loosening up to the point where 80 is easy to attain and feels incredibly comfortable. For instance, today I was driving on the Mass Pike and without much effort found myself cruising at 80 on my Firestone winterforce snows. I don't like driving much above 70 with snows since they aren't high speed rated, but the car's composure and stability made it feel like I was driving 65.

Then there's how it takes on the twisties. Again coming from a MS3, the 6 isn't as flat a handler or as go-cartish as the MS3. But it's very composed and refined. It does have more body roll, but no less willingness to carve up the curves as my MS3 did. Make no mistake the 6 does have zoom-zoom, it's just a more mature zoom-zoom, the in vein of a well composed German car.

I hate to say it, but I think I like the 6 more than I liked the MS3. While the MS3 was a very fun car, the 6 is in another league with respect to refinement and drivability. I think people have jumped on the "it's larger and not like the last 6 and therfore can't be good" bandwagon without really giving this car the chance.

I really think people have to adjust their perspective with respect to the new 6. Based on my near-Month of ownership I really think the 6 is beyond the Camry and Accord. It's more German than Japanese in it's behavior. It's suspension soaks up bumps, but is also extremely controlled and perfectly damped. The body is also solid and rattle free. Oh and the Bose system in this car is excellent. A huge improvement from the Bose system in my MS3. Bluetooth Audio is fantastic and sounds better than CD.

My kids love it and I no longer have to ask them to stop pushing on my seat. Even with 6'2" 205lb's of me in the front, they have plenty of room in the back. The MS3 was more punishment for them. Maybe if Dad was 5'10" maybe the MS3 would have been more comfortable for them.

It's a very enjoyable drive and a car that I feel proud to own. It's voluptuous shape really draws my attention. At times I feel like I'm driving something exotic. Give it a look from teh rear 3/4's and it reminds me of a Jaguar, another angle a Maserati, and from another angle something unlike any other car out there. I can't wait for the spring so I can throw back on the OE tires/alloys and give it's black ebony paint job a wash, a wax and then take it for a long drive and wring that V6's neck a lot more around some twisties.

BTW, the paint job on this car appears to be excellent. Not sure if Mazda beefed up the clear coat but it even shines up through the salt that currently coats it's skin.

Annoyances:

Seats do need better bolstering for those thinner people among us
Tranny is slow to downshift when not being directed manumatically.
Not a ton of cubbies.
No easily accessible internal release for the rear fold down seats- main release is in trunk.
At my preferred driving position the top of the steering wheel cuts off the upper edge of the speedo. Still playing with driving position to see if I can improve this.
Small glovebox (MS3 as you know is HUGE)
Arguably awkward phone book interface for phone and Bluetooth. There are actually two different phone books, one that can downloaded form your phone and accessed via the head unit and the second whihc needs ot be loaded via voice prompts for BT access. Not sur eif this is due to my iPhone's annoying BT architecture. BTW the iPhone does not support AVRCP protocol for track control, only play pause.

These are relatively minor annoyances in teh grand scheme or things. Overall I'm very happy. And have to do a double-take to realize that the 6 is as inexpensive as it is.

Hope this gives you some insight into the 6. Like I said, I really believe people haven't given it a fair shake. FWIW.
 
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It a funny dichotomy. The GT V6, Mz6 is a deceptive ride with two distinct personalities. The first personality is comfortable highway cruiser, i.e. it will just lumber along happily at highway speeds forever. It's this aspect of it's personality that I believe tricks people who take it for a spin/short test drive into thinking it lacks any zoom-zoom. I originally felt this way when I drove it a year back. Nice car but a bit soft.

The second aspect of it's split personality comes in when you start using the manu-matic shift and wring the V6 engine's neck a bit. This V6 pulls like a train when it starts to really breath up around 3-4K and then a huge rush of power comes in at over 4K with the sound of a turbine. Admittedly I haven't really beat it up too much since I still have less than 1K on it, but on the highway it's deceptively fast. When you want to pass this thing passes and does it with smooth and confident authority. I've since switched out the stadard alloys and tires with steelies and winter tires so I've been keeping the speed down, but it doesn't take much for the car to start poking 90 to 100mph.

I've also found that it's been limbering up a bit over the last few hundred miles. When I first picked it up it seemed to resist sccelerating and didn't like cruising at 80, rather it felt more comfortable at 65. But over the past 4-500 miles the drivetrain appears to be loosening up to the point where 80 is easy to attain and feels incredibly comfortable. For instance, today I was driving on the Mass Pike and without much effort found myself cruising at 80 on my Firestone winterforce snows. I don't like driving much above 70 with snows since they aren't high speed rated, but the car's composure and stability made it feel like I was driving 65.

Then there's how it takes on the twisties. Again coming from a MS3, the 6 isn't as flat a handler or as go-cartish as the MS3. But it's very composed and refined. It does have more body roll, but no less willingness to carve up the curves as my MS3 did. Make no mistake the 6 does have zoom-zoom, it's just a more mature zoom-zoom, the in vein of a well composed German car.

I hate to say it, but I think I like the 6 more than I liked the MS3. While the MS3 was a very fun car, the 6 is in another league with respect to refinement and drivability. I think people have jumped on the "it's larger and not like the last 6 and therfore can't be good" bandwagon without really giving this car the chance.

I really think people have to adjust their perspective with respect to the new 6. Based on my near-Month of ownership I really think the 6 is beyond the Camry and Accord. It's more German than Japanese in it's behavior. It's suspension soaks up bumps, but is also extremely controlled and perfectly damped. The body is also solid and rattle free.

My kids love it and I no longer have to ask them to stop pushing on my seat. Even with 6'2" 205lb's of me in the front, they have plenty of room in the back. The MS3 was more punishment for them. Maybe if Dad was 5'10" maybe the MS3 would have been more comfortable for them.

It's a very enjoyable drive and a car that I feel proud to own. It's voluptuous shape really draws my attention. At times I feel like I'm driving something exotic. Give it a look from teh rear 3/4's and it reminds me of a Jaguar, another angle a Maserati, and from another angle something unlike any other car out there. I can't wait for the spring so I can throw back on the OE tires/alloys and give it's black ebony paint job a wash, a wax and then take it for a long drive and wring that V6's neck a lot more around some twisties.

BTW, the paint job on this car appears to be excellent. Not sure if Mazda beefed up the clear coat but it even shines up through the salt that currently coats it's skin.

Hoep this gives you some insight into the 6. Like I said, I really believe people haven't given it a fair shake. FWIW.

Thanks for the response! I will for sure take one out on a test drive.
 

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