aem cai dyno

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

dyno on youtube for the aem cai...what do you guys think??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DS4qGc7_Yk

 

[bova80]

i think its for a speed 3

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

isn't it the same motor and everything? why wouldn't those figures apply to the speed 6 then?

 

[bova80]

well its fwd so not as much drivetrain loss, and 2 our ecu's react differently, and 3 the intakes are not designed the same for both cars.

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

so you dont think that our cars get that much of a hp gain then? i mean i would of believed that since there pretty much the same engine set up that we would be getting the same results...or something even close within a few hp..

 

[clutchedout22]

well its fwd so not as much drivetrain loss, and 2 our ecu's react differently, and 3 the intakes are not designed the same for both cars.

this is true

 

[Lil_vicious559]

Depends on how the car reacts it should look something like this:

FWD: 10-15% drivetrain loss
RWD: 20% Drivetrain loss
AWD: 30-40% drivetrain loss

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

there is no way a mazdaspeed 6 looses 30-40% sorry..i could swear that the speed 6 has dyno results of around 220 whp stock which is exactly 20% of the 274 crank horsepower

and its almost got to be the same horsepower gain with the cai or within at most 5 horsepower...i cant see the speed 3 gaining any more then that over our cars sorry

 

[Lil_vicious559]

there is no way a mazdaspeed 6 looses 30-40% sorry..i could swear that the speed 6 has dyno results of around 220 whp stock which is exactly 20% of the 274 crank horsepower

and its almost got to be the same horsepower gain with the cai or within at most 5 horsepower...i cant see the speed 3 gaining any more then that over our cars sorry

You need to re-read dude.

I stated AWD meaning car's that are AWD, Not just the Mazdaspeed6

A Stock STi has 300 crank HP and I've seen dyno's from 220-230AWHP
(AWD) car
A Stock SRT-4 has 250 crank HP and I've seen dyno's from 225-235WHP
(FWD) car
A stock Evo 8 has 271 crank HP and I've seen Dyno's from 215-225AWHP
(AWD) car

 

[Lil_vicious559]

You need to look up some more on the MS6 dyno's. I've seen numbers as low as 192-200AWHP

 

[Mistersix]

Depends on how the car reacts it should look something like this:

FWD: 10-15% drivetrain loss
RWD: 20% Drivetrain loss
AWD: 30-40% drivetrain loss

30-40%......really?

30% off the ms6's 274 is 82.2hp. thats 191.8whp. based on stock dyno pulls i've seen on forums thats way off.

typical stock is 229 whp. thats a 16.5% drivetrain/parasitic drag losses. again based on dyno sheets posted on forums. i've never personally dyno'd my 6 stock.

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

im sorry no way i wont believe it lol..

 

[Lil_vicious559]

im sorry no way i wont believe it lol..

Why do you think FWD and RWD car's are faster from a roll. More weight is being used when your AWD.

A AWD car will put down less HP stock than a FWD or RWD car

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

here is cpe dyno for a before and after for the cat back exaust..note that the stock hp is like 221 http://www.cp-e.com/imgs/speed6_catback_hp_large.jpg

 

[Mistersix]

Why do you think FWD and RWD car's are faster from a roll. More weight is being used when your AWD.

A AWD car will put down less HP stock than a FWD or RWD car

my guess would be power to weight ratio. awd's are heavier. and prolly do suffer more drivetrain loss. but not that much.

 

[Lil_vicious559]

here is cpe dyno for a before and after for the cat back exaust..note that the stock hp is like 221 http://www.cp-e.com/imgs/speed6_catback_hp_large.jpg

that's about a 23% drivetrain loss

 

[SMOKEYS36SHOP]

no its more like 20%
274 is stock hp on the 2007 mazdaspeed 6
x .20
---------
54.8 and subtract that from 274 = 219.2 hp to the wheel...no where close to 30-40% for our cars

sorry i dont mean to argue the fact but there is no way our cars are below 220 whp

 

[Mistersix]

23% of 274 is 63 hp. thats 211.

221whp is still less than 20%. i'm just sayin, your claimin 30-40% loss.

 

[Lil_vicious559]

my guess would be power to weight ratio. awd's are heavier. and prolly do suffer more drivetrain loss. but not that much.

Lets just say for example:

I weigh 1600lbs in a little CRX with 250ish WHP

1600 divide by 250=6.4lbs per ratio

A stock MS6 has around 335AWHP

3589 Divide by 335AWHP=10.71lbs per ratio

Power to weight ratio only matters running from a roll at any speed. My money would be on the CRX from a 20-40-60MPH roll.

Now when were comparing about dyno

A CRX has 250WHP it will have around 275-280 Crank HP

As far as the MS6 it will have around 380-385 Crank HP

This is just the way it is, FWD car's put out more WHP

 

[Mistersix]

no its more like 20%
274 is stock hp on the 2007 mazdaspeed 6
x .20
---------
54.8 and subtract that from 274 = 219.2 hp to the wheel...no where close to 30-40% for our cars

sorry i dont mean to argue the fact but there is no way our cars are below 220 whp

lol! you beat me to it(whip)