Gas Question??????

[cucamelsmd15]

E-85 is a hoax. Much less power than gasoline and FAR more expensive to produce.

Um, wat?

105 octane, cooling effects of alcohol, and the fact that you can dump tons of boost/timing into a car running e85 says your wrong. A good tune with e85 will generally get you 20-30hp or more over 93 assuming you have the fuel system to support it.

 

[azturbo3d]

Shell V-Power every now and then I add a secret ingredient when no one's watching...

 

[camrycev6]

I had to fill up with 89 the other day because all of the stations were out of 93. I was like WTF? Oh well, at least from some previous tests I did with 89, I know it won't hurt my car just to run a tank through.

 

[MikeHTally]

Um, wat?

105 octane, cooling effects of alcohol, and the fact that you can dump tons of boost/timing into a car running e85 says your wrong. A good tune with e85 will generally get you 20-30hp or more over 93 assuming you have the fuel system to support it.

You might want to do some homework -- ethanol has far less energy than gasoline, and costs WAY more to produce. The alcohol destroys fuel lines (unless they're designed to resist the corrosive properties). It takes something like 11,000 gallons of water to produce a gallon of E85, and guess how it gets to the station? DIESEL. The list goes on and on. E85 is a fraud.

 

[cucamelsmd15]

You might want to do some homework -- ethanol has far less energy than gasoline, and costs WAY more to produce. The alcohol destroys fuel lines (unless they're designed to resist the corrosive properties). It takes something like 11,000 gallons of water to produce a gallon of E85, and guess how it gets to the station? DIESEL. The list goes on and on. E85 is a fraud.

Actually, its you who might want to do some homework.

E85 is about 30% volumetrically less efficient. I never denied that, in fact, I stated it plainly when I made my statement about the fuel system. Secondly, unless youre driving a car from the 80's, you dont have to worry about your fuel lines.

Now, if you want to start arguing that its 105 octane, and that a good tune on e85 wont net you 20-30hp more than on 93, be my guest. Ive seen the results first hand, Ive done it. But, I see youve already bought into the "e85 is the devil" BS that people love to spew, so I wont bother explaining why youre wrong.

 

[MikeHTally]

Actually, its you who might want to do some homework.

E85 is about 30% volumetrically less efficient. I never denied that, in fact, I stated it plainly when I made my statement about the fuel system. Secondly, unless youre driving a car from the 80's, you dont have to worry about your fuel lines.

Now, if you want to start arguing that its 105 octane, and that a good tune on e85 wont net you 20-30hp more than on 93, be my guest. Ive seen the results first hand, Ive done it. But, I see youve already bought into the "e85 is the devil" BS that people love to spew, so I wont bother explaining why youre wrong.

Whatever. Octane is not power. Keep believing.

 

[builthatch]

Actually, its you who might want to do some homework.

E85 is about 30% volumetrically less efficient. I never denied that, in fact, I stated it plainly when I made my statement about the fuel system. Secondly, unless youre driving a car from the 80's, you dont have to worry about your fuel lines.

Now, if you want to start arguing that its 105 octane, and that a good tune on e85 wont net you 20-30hp more than on 93, be my guest. Ive seen the results first hand, Ive done it. But, I see youve already bought into the "e85 is the devil" BS that people love to spew, so I wont bother explaining why youre wrong.

Jeff Evans, from Evans Tuning, who is in many people's eyes (count me in) one of the country's premier tuners, sings the praises of e85 tunes. it's very common amongst the high hp turbo guys, has been for a year or two.

there was an old thread running on h-t for a while about e85, i need to find it.

EDIT: here it is http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1812349

 

[cucamelsmd15]

Whatever. Octane is not power. Keep believing.

LOL

Obviously youre too ignorant to know what octane means, so we will just leave it at that.

 

[MikeHTally]

LOL

Obviously youre too ignorant to know what octane means, so we will just leave it at that.

Octane is the fuel's resistance to burning. Dumbass.

 

[cucamelsmd15]

Octane is the fuel's resistance to burning. Dumbass.

(rofl2)(rofl2)(rofl2)(rofl2)(rofl2)(rofl2)

No, dumbass, octane is the fuels resistance to spontaneous combustion and knocking, not its resistance to burning. 87 burns the same as 93 when its lit by a spark, dumbass. Stated differently, 93 has a higher activation energy than 87, hence its greater resistance to knock, and wide use in high compression engines.

 

[builthatch]

if i was a mod, i'd come in here and tell everyone that they better chill out with the name calling, etc or else sanctions will be dealt.

but i'm not a mod, and you all don't care what i say hahahaha

 

[slo4now]

Amoco 93 mixed with Torco Race Fuel Additve Concentrate.
Gives me 100 octane all the time.