smoknspeed3
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I want to get my rims powder coated black to match the car. How much does this process cost?
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when you paint them, what are the steps in doing so to make sure they turn out well?
MazdaSpeeder
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Here is a whole thread about it, with pics...on my to-do list for the summer!
Why not powder coating is much more durable then regular painting. And actually most places charge around 50 a wheel. The only way id change wheels color is by powdercoating but thats just me.
MazdaSpeeder
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I hear you on that, but mine are curbed to hell (previous owner) and I eventually plan on upgrading to MSP or MP3 rims, so for me getting cleaned up, new color rims is not worth $200 (plus it would probably be more with all the sanding and filling in curb rash).
Worst idea ever.....Painted wheels FTL.
Just my opinion.
PC is worth every penny...but it will easily cost you abut $300 to do it right for four wheels.
blueprotegelx
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i know with painting your rims yourself, it takes quite a bit of maintenance especially with the paint chipping.
does powder coating have the same effect? maybe the question should be why is pc better?
does powder coating have the same effect? maybe the question should be why is pc better?
^^ +1 FTL
My experience with painting: On my Integra, I painted almost the entire inside, lips, spoiler, and one set of wheels. (Note: I knew what I was doing and had done a set before) The wheels were the first to go. Used Duplicolor wheel paint. I'd say within a year were flaking a fading. Winter salty roads gave them the final KO.(bang)
If there is ONE thing I've learned from owning the integra (cause I did almost EVERYTHING you can think of to it) ** QUALITY ** Even if you pay more for something (parts or services), there's usually a reason you are paying more, for better quality.
My suggestion: If you are about to get different wheels, just wait for them. If you really want them in a different color, POWDERCOAT. You can pretty much get it in any color and finish, and they come out looking great. (humpleg)
My experience with painting: On my Integra, I painted almost the entire inside, lips, spoiler, and one set of wheels. (Note: I knew what I was doing and had done a set before) The wheels were the first to go. Used Duplicolor wheel paint. I'd say within a year were flaking a fading. Winter salty roads gave them the final KO.(bang)
If there is ONE thing I've learned from owning the integra (cause I did almost EVERYTHING you can think of to it) ** QUALITY ** Even if you pay more for something (parts or services), there's usually a reason you are paying more, for better quality.
My suggestion: If you are about to get different wheels, just wait for them. If you really want them in a different color, POWDERCOAT. You can pretty much get it in any color and finish, and they come out looking great. (humpleg)
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they are a sponsor on another forum i'm on.
gives you an idea of pricing/colors etc....
they are a sponsor on another forum i'm on.
gives you an idea of pricing/colors etc....
MazdaSpeeder
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Hey, I hear you guys, but if my rims already look horrendous and I'm looking for a cheap and easy fix-up for the short term, painting is the way to go. I'm not going to keep these rims forever, but for a little while. There are plenty of people who have painted their rims and are happy with the results a year or two down the road. I could buy a set of MSP or MP3 rims for what powdercoating my current rims would cost, so if I had the money to PC, I would just buy new rims instead. Sure painting not as durable as PC, but no one said it was...it's a cheap and somewhat temporary appearance upgrade. Just my $.02.
ok, first of all... powdercoating CAN reduce the strength of the wheel. my friend paid over $200 on powdercoating for his stock ap1 s2k wheels and there were flaws abound AND they chip just as much as oem style painted wheels.
what happens when you get a big gash or curb rash on your $50- 60 powder coated wheel? you have to take it off, get the tire unmounted, powder coated, mounted again. huge hassle. with painting, you can just respray it within a couple of hours.
i honestly can't see why anyone would powdercoat. it's a waste of money. you guys obviously haven't seen a good wheel paint job.
sand, prime, wheel paint and you're golden dude. and who cares if you have to respray them a year down the line?
dude, worst case scenario... if you do spray them and you aren't proud of your work, THEN get them powdercoated.
$30 loss and you got to try something new. big deal
painted wheels FTW!!!
this is the color i'm painting mine. duplicolor bronze wheel paint:
what happens when you get a big gash or curb rash on your $50- 60 powder coated wheel? you have to take it off, get the tire unmounted, powder coated, mounted again. huge hassle. with painting, you can just respray it within a couple of hours.
i honestly can't see why anyone would powdercoat. it's a waste of money. you guys obviously haven't seen a good wheel paint job.
sand, prime, wheel paint and you're golden dude. and who cares if you have to respray them a year down the line?
dude, worst case scenario... if you do spray them and you aren't proud of your work, THEN get them powdercoated.
$30 loss and you got to try something new. big deal
painted wheels FTW!!!
this is the color i'm painting mine. duplicolor bronze wheel paint:
smoknspeed3
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I don't mind paying the extra couple dollars to get them powder coated. I have delt with paint for other items such as calipers and motor parts. It turned out real good but faded over time. So what is the process with powder coating? What does the shop actually do?
I don't know where you get your info from..But Although you say "CAN" ....PC will not reduce the structural inegrity of the wheel in any way.
And if the Substance to be Powdercoated is prepped properly..It will not just chip any where near like paint.
Items sould be free and Clean of all materials prior to PC'ing and wheel should be chemically stripped of their original finish to get the best results.
Now there are other way to prep..but any abrasive method will alter the shape of the wheels surfaces and those nice crisp lines of definition will now be dulled.
PC'ing is usually done at temps between 350*-600*(very high)..and is usually baked ight around 400*-450* typically.
This will by no means cause any damage or structural changes to this wheel which would affet it lifespan.
PC is also Highly Fade resistant and holds up well to Exterior Environments and Chemicals.
Much more durable than paint will ever be.
Now...where did you get this ridiculous info from?
Trust me..I know just a little bit about the subject at hand.
Paint is a Poor mans excuse for not powdercoating.
There is a reason that OEM manufacturers and wheel companies PC their rims vs. Painting them I would say 90% of the time...
Now lets not talk cheap rims..they are just that.
redspeed3tk
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ahhhh ok you are comparing rattle can paint vs powder coating thats not really fair if you are comparing them compare a professionally refinished base clear wheels to powder coating....paint done right will not fade, flake or anything
and paint is not a poor excuse for powder coat at all they cant make powder coat look as good as base clear paint
name one oem wheel that is powder coated please? those ms3 wheels are silver base clear all the way and they wont powder coat them as you have to be able to match them for a repair and most shops dont have the capibilities
and paint is not a poor excuse for powder coat at all they cant make powder coat look as good as base clear paint
name one oem wheel that is powder coated please? those ms3 wheels are silver base clear all the way and they wont powder coat them as you have to be able to match them for a repair and most shops dont have the capibilities
mazdaspeed32007
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why dont you just ask people who have powdercoated the ms3 wheels. i know someone on here has done it ive seen it. he powdercoated them a dark dark gray. you should try to search him up and pick his brain but as far as i know 50 a wheel is well worth the hastle of sanding priming and painting each wheel. painting isnt terrible but when you bake a rim at 400-600 degrees and let them cure to the rim ie. powdercoating....i know its stronger than painting, how could you object to that?
well said redspeed. 90% of OEM wheels are painted, NOT powdercoated. maybe 90% of brand name wheels are powdercoated.
so MS3 wheels are cheap? why don't you call mazda and get a price for one.
i'm not saying that powdercoating isn't more durable, i'm saying it's unnecessary.
what happens when you get chips or curb rash on your $50-75 powdercoated wheel?
you're going to jack your car up, take the wheel/tire to a shop and get the tire unmounted, then wait atleast 2 days to get it back? THEN take it and get the tire remounted? no thanks. big hassle.
paint from a can will be just as durable as the OEM finish as long as you prep right and take your time.
i'm not saying that powdercoating WILL weaken your wheels but it has happened. wheels have cracked, bent, broken more than once. there are new powder coating techniques that use lower temps but it's more expensive and not everyone has it.
if i had $250 to spare, i MIGHT consider powdercoating. for now, it's duplicolor.
mazdaspeed32007: i'd consider it a much bigger hassle to have to get the tires unmounted and mounted and waiting... realistically a week or more for your wheels to be done.
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