this is what i would like to get
http://www.atpturbo.com/root/releases/release091004.htm
http://www.atpturbo.com/root/releases/release091004.htm
uhhhh. ATP????
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Wow! That is nice.
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Last I heard, the dyno sheet with the full gt30 setup was on stock engine management and fuel system. There is a video of their ms6 with stock fuel and management, running like 12.6 on low boost. Nothing spectacular for a ms3, but as we all know the ms6s arent as quick with mods and havent taken as well to most things like the ms3
OK........here is the deal........The Cobb intake's blue silicone tube is made to fit on the *stock inlet tube* which is 2.5" OD. The ATP inlet pipe's tube were the coupler goes (were the blue Cobb tube would need to go) is *NOT* 2.5" but is a hair over 3" OD. So there is no way to use the blue Cobb coupler with the ATP inlet tube. Now, if you order the ATP inlet tube with the 45* 3" coupler you see in the ATP PICs then, **IF**, the Cobb MAF inlet is 3" you can make it work using the ATP 45* coupler and leaving out the blue Cobb coupler. I have the ATP kit here and a BEGI box CAI. They look to mate up perfectly. The ATP coupler fits the BEGI MAF housing like a glove. This stuff isn't going on for a little while. Waiting for early spring.
looks like a nice "cut out" i had an electric cut out on my srt-4 along with a 3" dp and stock cat back. i loved it. sounded stock with a little umph from the dp but at the push of a button it dumped right off the dp. loud as hell vibrated like crazy but for the track it rocked. it really opened up the upper gears.
i like the e-cut out over this because this opens any time your in boost but with the e-cut out i could choose when it was opened or closed. it was kinda nice to be able to get on it and keep it somewhat quiet or just to be loud as hell when i felt like it.
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All, I just got a step up sleev from ATP to mate the 3" inlet to the MS CAI (2.75" OD). I should have some gain numbers either tonight or tomorrow assuming the install goes smoothly.
The bigest concern I have is this thing popping off the turbo. The ATP inlet doesn't have a mounting flange like the stock inlet, so it's only support is the clamp on the 3" to 2" reducer on the turbo and the the rubber mount on my MS CAI down where the fuel resistor used to be mounted. That is a long distance and a lot of plumbing without solid support. Since the engine is rocking against this long plumbing, the mechanical stress on the reducer at the turbo is going to be high.
Now that I said that, I just realized if it were mounted like the stock inlet, there wouldn't be any flex. Damn, there goes all that typing and my theory. Anyone have any suggestions on how to support the ATP inlet tube from moving laterally to prevent it from popping off the turbo??
The bigest concern I have is this thing popping off the turbo. The ATP inlet doesn't have a mounting flange like the stock inlet, so it's only support is the clamp on the 3" to 2" reducer on the turbo and the the rubber mount on my MS CAI down where the fuel resistor used to be mounted. That is a long distance and a lot of plumbing without solid support. Since the engine is rocking against this long plumbing, the mechanical stress on the reducer at the turbo is going to be high.
Now that I said that, I just realized if it were mounted like the stock inlet, there wouldn't be any flex. Damn, there goes all that typing and my theory. Anyone have any suggestions on how to support the ATP inlet tube from moving laterally to prevent it from popping off the turbo??
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Well since the turbo has a vacuum effect to it, it shouldn't pop off. A lot of custom fabricated turbos are held on by just silicone piping and just a clamp, not a whole flange/bracket ect. As long as the clamp is tight and pushed all the way on the turbo, you shouldn't have a problem. Especially our turbo being so small. If they can use just clamps for a GT35, ect then I don't see why there should be any problems with a K04.
Good point. The reason why I even brought that up is because my stock inlet was half-way off my turbo about 2 months ago and I could move it back and forth, off the turbo by wiggling my MS CAI back and forth. Since then, I have considered that a weak point. Maybe its because of the length of the MS CAI. It would be interesting if anyone else with fender mounted CAI's has noticed this.
I am hoping to put a webcam and mic in the engine bay, before and after to record movement and sound changes.
I finished the ATP 3" Turbo Inlet install.
Before Install:
I ran 3 before SW dynos and datalogged about 10 parameters including boost, AFR, RPM, and Fuel PSI. I also video taped (with audio) the engine and intake movement from inside the engine compartment while hitting WOT in gears 1-3.
After ATP 3" Inlet install:
I installed the ATP 3" Inlet then took it for a drive, but it's too late or early, WTF, to do any SW dynos or datalogs with the inlet installed.
I will SW dyno and datalog and video tape the "after the install" tonight.
It does pull harder, but I gotta let the ECU re-adjust cause I had to disconnect the battery and remove the battery box to do the install.
I will post detailed pictures and videos of the install and the intake movement before and after install later today.
My initial impressions are that it definitely pulls harder at about 4500 RPMs and up.
Before Install:
I ran 3 before SW dynos and datalogged about 10 parameters including boost, AFR, RPM, and Fuel PSI. I also video taped (with audio) the engine and intake movement from inside the engine compartment while hitting WOT in gears 1-3.
After ATP 3" Inlet install:
I installed the ATP 3" Inlet then took it for a drive, but it's too late or early, WTF, to do any SW dynos or datalogs with the inlet installed.
I will SW dyno and datalog and video tape the "after the install" tonight.
It does pull harder, but I gotta let the ECU re-adjust cause I had to disconnect the battery and remove the battery box to do the install.
I will post detailed pictures and videos of the install and the intake movement before and after install later today.
My initial impressions are that it definitely pulls harder at about 4500 RPMs and up.
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I have the Cobb SRI and the MSCAI it will fit over MAF inlet accept either the elbow or the Cobb bracket will have to be modified. The coupler is too long and moves the position of the SRI forward to where the nose of the air filter after you re install it is pushed up the plastic trim in top of the bumper (that was removing the cobb brace for the SRI).... I wish I had taken pics for the SRI guys before I sent it back. At the time I didn’t think the interest of this mod would get bigger.(bang)
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When I had the MSCAI I noticed that the clamp at the turbo inlet would get loose all the time. So every 6-7 days I would pop the hood and cinch ALL the clamps from the turbo inlet to the MSCAI down tube. I know guys are running T-bolt clamps seem like a more robust way to go trouble is it’s a tight space.
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Do you have any pics comparing the stock piece to the ATP piece?
Try and ignore the glasses! I wanted to prop them up at the same angles.
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