MAM FMIC VS. Perrin Fmic

[Maxx Mazda]

cool, do you have any pics of your set up?

Ya man. Here's an OLD pic from 2 years ago of how it's mounted. Just L brackets and bolts.

The second pic is after I took al lthe support off my grill so it's just the mesh n stuff, looks WAY good.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

nice that is the same front bumper as im going to be using as well. can i ask where did you get your fog lights at and what size they are?

 

[505zoom]

I'm not certain on the details (I should be though) but I'd imagine it helps with boost response as the air will be moving faster in the smaller piping. However it just might have been a size/space requirement. 505zoom would probably know this better than I could explain.

This one is another theory based "myth" that is still not proven either way in my mind. The idea is that the air needs more space after being cooled, so you want a larger ID pipe on the cold-side.

You are of course right about smaller piping providing faster flow, but that isn't the "claimed" basis behind using a smaller hot-side and a larger cold-side. I think that the idea is more or less bogus though, and that using a matched 2.5" for both sides wouldn't show any difference compared to the other way.

 

[505zoom]

nice that is the same front bumper as im going to be using as well.

Oh man, didn't realize this when I was talking about fitting the core in there. You will have a much easier time fitting the WW bumper. It has much more room than the stocker for these 3.5" intercoolers.

 

[CantCMe]

Damn that looks nice...

Ya man. Here's an OLD pic from 2 years ago of how it's mounted. Just L brackets and bolts.

The second pic is after I took al lthe support off my grill so it's just the mesh n stuff, looks WAY good.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

Sweet i might keep my WW kit then i was thinking about trading someone straight up for a 3.5 bumper and side skirts if they payed shipping.

 

[magnumP5]

This one is another theory based "myth" that is still not proven either way in my mind. The idea is that the air needs more space after being cooled, so you want a larger ID pipe on the cold-side.

You are of course right about smaller piping providing faster flow, but that isn't the "claimed" basis behind using a smaller hot-side and a larger cold-side. I think that the idea is more or less bogus though, and that using a matched 2.5" for both sides wouldn't show any difference compared to the other way.

Yeah I was trying to think why larger piping would be better for cooler air. I mean, cooler air = denser air so technically the same amount of air would be taking up less volume on the cold side than on the hot side. As for it being 'bogus' I'm not completely sure but just about every other FMIC that was ever made for this car had equally sized piping for the whole thing so who knows.

 

[turbolife]

Yeah I was trying to think why larger piping would be better for cooler air. I mean, cooler air = denser air so technically the same amount of air would be taking up less volume on the cold side than on the hot side. As for it being 'bogus' I'm not completely sure but just about every other FMIC that was ever made for this car had equally sized piping for the whole thing so who knows.

Mine and the Perrin have a larger cold pipe as well.

You are correct in thinking that colder air is denser, but hot gasses travel faster than colder gasses (making the larger cold pipe sensible).

 

[AcolyteMSP]

Perrin pipes with Corsport size core i would like to see this!

 

[2.0t03speed]

theres no way you can do that because the perrins endtanks go out the back of the core twords the motor where as the corksports come out the side.

 

[turbolife]

theres no way you can do that because the perrins endtanks go out the back of the core twords the motor where as the corksports come out the side.

Have an IC made with custom tanks. Many places will do that.

 

[2.0t03speed]

yea but if you do it that way to make it fit the pipes and look correctly your going to have a core the same height and width unless you want the bottom on your bumper half empty

 

[JCell]

all i can say is that i suffer NO lag with the perrin and crush bend 2.5 exhaust piping. honestly i have a hard time staying out of boost

 

[turbolife]

all i can say is that i suffer NO lag with the perrin and crush bend 2.5 exhaust piping. honestly i have a hard time staying out of boost

I can second this (minus the exhaust).

I have no issue of lag at all either.

 

[JCell]

i can't imagine how fast it'll spool with a 3' exhaust (evil)

 

[Maxx Mazda]

nice that is the same front bumper as im going to be using as well. can i ask where did you get your fog lights at and what size they are?

Stock foglights. Also you'll need to do ALOT of work to get the stock lower grill to fit. It's not meant to, so be prepared to **** with it for a LONG time to get it to work.

Also, I should have mentioned before, no way can you fit a 3.5" core behind the stock bumper. You need the Wings West kit for it to work. W/e stock sucks anyways! I mean, tell me this doesn't look better than stock:

 

[Maxx Mazda]

Have an IC made with custom tanks. Many places will do that.

Ya but the corksport cores are CHEAP like borscht! I still say the MAM pipes with the corksport core was the best way to go...

 

[turbolife]

Ya but the corksport cores are CHEAP like borscht! I still say the MAM pipes with the corksport core was the best way to go...

I think your setup looks good, and you make power with it, but I am slightly biased to a different setup.

Both are good solutions, IMO.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

turbolife from like day one i was telling you i was going to get your kit, dont get me wrong i still might get one and compare but it is taking forever and im not blamming you cause great things take time, and plug its dead sexy!!!! oh and +1 for you taking the time to help our community.

Maxx that pic is sick. omg lol i never really liked the WW kit but you just made it rise a notch in my eyes.

 

[Maxx Mazda]

How do you not like the WW kit? It's subtle enough to looks stock-ish, but different enough that a trained eye will notice.

Have a look here:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123680823