Stock Wideband

laloosh

Banned
I know the ms3 has it, how can we use it? Has anybody tired to hook up a guage to it? It would make life alot easier/cheaper if all i need is a guage to tune this thing.
 
I know the ms3 has it, how can we use it? Has anybody tired to hook up a guage to it? It would make life alot easier/cheaper if all i need is a guage to tune this thing.
It is very difficult to do. The information from the sensor is a current, based on a precision voltage regulator in the gauge. A gauge designed to connect to a sensor cannot be put in parallel with the factory setup. Your best bet is to weld in a bung and put in another sensor. Or, you can get the factory information out with an OBDII connected gauge.
 
it reads lambda i think thats spelled right and you cant really tune off of the dash hawk it too slow of a sampling rate to give full picture my corksport only had enough bungs for all the factory sensors
 
it reads lambda i think thats spelled right and you cant really tune off of the dash hawk it too slow of a sampling rate to give full picture my corksport only had enough bungs for all the factory sensors

LOL I just realized, it's the PG Racepipe that has the extra bung. :)
 
Does anyone know if the latest Dashhawk Upgrade read AF? Or do you still have to do the math in your head?
The DashHawk is TRASH.

Wait for this one,

The NITROD VPM, the only gauge with true performance testing, monitoring and diagnostic capabilities.

Just copied it. But it real.
 
I asked this question in July 07. Here was the reply:

Hi Greg,

Thanks for inquiring about the Nitrod VPM-100G. Unfortunately,
the VPM-100G does not currently support the Mazdaspeed 3.

Best Regards,

Nitrod support team
www.nitrod.com


That's why I bought the Dashhawk...
 
I know they told me the samething but that's why I said WAIT.

I figured why by trash when you can just wait (I hope) alittle while for that product.

Don't get me wrong, I love MSD Ignition, (and wonder why nobody has hooked one up yet) I will be hooking up the DIS 2 when I can afford it.
 
Last edited:
It is very difficult to do. The information from the sensor is a current, based on a precision voltage regulator in the gauge. A gauge designed to connect to a sensor cannot be put in parallel with the factory setup. Your best bet is to weld in a bung and put in another sensor. Or, you can get the factory information out with an OBDII connected gauge.


are you sure about this? I know people with 911Ts that just spice into their stock wideband and it works like a charm.
 
are you sure about this? I know people with 911Ts that just spice into their stock wideband and it works like a charm.
Quite sure. I don't know about what 911t has, but our sensor output is a current proportional to the mixture. The current is based on a precision voltage generated in the gauge. If you put a gauge in parallel the current tries to go to both gauges and neither will read correctly. In series will be really strange. Go ahead and try it and see what happens. The worst it can do is blow up either the gauge, the sensor, or the ECU. Easily fixed, just add money. If it works, let us all know exactly how you did it and we will all learn from it.
 
I just sent my email as well so hopefully they start working on it. This device would make life much easier for sure.

Good find.

enjoy!
 
Quite sure. I don't know about what 911t has, but our sensor output is a current proportional to the mixture. The current is based on a precision voltage generated in the gauge. If you put a gauge in parallel the current tries to go to both gauges and neither will read correctly. In series will be really strange. Go ahead and try it and see what happens. The worst it can do is blow up either the gauge, the sensor, or the ECU. Easily fixed, just add money. If it works, let us all know exactly how you did it and we will all learn from it.

Holy Sheep s***, are you trying to tell me that if I hook up a AFR gauge to the stock O2 it's gonna F--- some s*** up?

Mr. Miller @ PG says they do it all the time.(shrug)

And I just sent another e-mail to Nitrod.
 
Last edited:
The DashHawk is TRASH.

That's a bold statement, to say the least. Considering that the dashhawk is available for our cars and produces some sick data logs, I don't see how it can be dismissed off hand. Until I see some real comparisons against the dashhawk, I'll hold my final decision between the two...

BTW, the dashhawk does display a/f ratios with the latest update. The photo below is a comparison between it and an exhaust clamped wideband:
read-1.jpg


And this looks like a pretty sophisticated data log to me (from a CX-7):
quatermileig2.jpg


Not bashing though and interested to see the options available on the other.

Thanks!
 
Last edited:
I'll bash! Dashhawk works and I like it. I own it because it's available NOW.

Continue to wait and wonder. I know right now what the ECU is tracking. Let us know when the nitrod is available, and don't forget MSD and COBB are working together now!
 

New Threads and Articles

Back